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GOP ready to surrender on debt ceiling
Politico ^ | January 29, 2014 | JAKE SHERMAN and JOHN BRESNAHAN

Posted on 01/29/2014 4:21:28 AM PST by Timber Rattler

House Republicans are getting ready to surrender: There will be no serious fight over the debt limit.

The most senior figures in the House Republican Conference are privately acknowledging that they will almost certainly have to pass what’s called a clean debt ceiling increase in the next few months, abandoning the central fight that has defined their three-year majority.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gope; lie; rino; sellout
Remember when Boehner PRMOISED that the debt ceiling battle was going to be the one in which the GOP-E would FINALLY stand and fight? It would be a "whale of a fight" he said.

Guess what! He lied!

Flashback:

The debt ceiling: Is Boehner just blustering?

John Boehner Promises 'Whale Of A Fight' Over Debt Ceiling

Mr. Boehner Wants a Debt Fight

1 posted on 01/29/2014 4:21:29 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Have the democrats ever fought us over the Debt Limit? They seem to say they have never and just voted yes every time. Can anyone give any history on this. Nancy certainly doesn’t seem the type to be walked over so I don’t know.


2 posted on 01/29/2014 4:27:15 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Timber Rattler

I would only be surprised if they DIDN’T surrender.

Buy gold stocks. $20 TRILLION is not too far away.....neither is rampant inflation.


3 posted on 01/29/2014 4:27:26 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Timber Rattler

GOP = Party of backstabbing, smoke and mirrors.

The GOP continues to support every statism and
state control that Romney began. Every one.


4 posted on 01/29/2014 4:27:40 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Timber Rattler
Since the House has given up almost all of its Article I powers, why bother to vote this coming November?
5 posted on 01/29/2014 4:31:28 AM PST by Jacquerie (Restore federalism and freedom. Repeal the 17th.)
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To: Timber Rattler
I'm not as worried about the debt ceiling as I am about amnesty.If he caves on immigration and signs any bill that zero can EO to death it's all over for us.
6 posted on 01/29/2014 4:31:45 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: napscoordinator

Again....


7 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:18 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Surrender——Bwhahahahha.... Gotta stand and fight before you can surrender. Ol Cry baby Boehner does not know how to fight. He just turn red, tears up and hands over his lil wooden mallet.

Now take Lee, Cruz and Paul....those are fighters and I will stand with them.


8 posted on 01/29/2014 4:33:33 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: GeronL

Oh I know it sucks to see things in reality.


9 posted on 01/29/2014 4:35:45 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Timber Rattler

Boehner is a pussy...


10 posted on 01/29/2014 4:39:08 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Timber Rattler

It just wouldn’t be the GOP if they didn’t cave.


11 posted on 01/29/2014 4:42:31 AM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: Timber Rattler

Folks, just remember this when you see your fellow Freepers telling you that they will vote GOP “No matter what” and that “Lesser evil” is needed because “The Dem is worse.”

The time to decide where you stand on the GOP is now. Today. Not in November when the No matter what/Lesser evil idiots are trying to scare you into voting for another liberal.

Plenty of us here on FR have taken an insane amount of crap for our ‘purist’ stance, when in fact, we have adhered to the old 80% philosophy. We understand that many of you don’t want to get into the public screaming matches that follow the lesser evil brigade around.

Stop being silent and HELP US. Your silence allows them to HELP elect more of the people giving us amnesty, HELP strip vets of benefits and HELP destroy what’s left of the country you claim you love. Give them, and by association, their GOP plantation masters no support or encouragement. Rather, tell them loudly and clearly, “Go to Hell”.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 4:46:05 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler

that whale of a fight got harpooned .....


13 posted on 01/29/2014 4:46:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Timber Rattler

If these guys were in congress in 1945, we’d all be speaking German.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 4:50:39 AM PST by albie (ve`)
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To: Diogenesis

This is just another part in the GOP’s revenge against the people who refused to back their chosen one. Doesn’t natter than many did. All must be made to pay. Jarret taught’em that.


15 posted on 01/29/2014 4:50:58 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Timber Rattler

Why not? They surrendered on everything else.


16 posted on 01/29/2014 4:51:52 AM PST by sport
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To: Timber Rattler

No surprise there,
but as you point out very well, Bohner came out on TV with all this tough talk about conditions for passing it.

Like his brick wall statement yesterday.

He figures all we want is tough talk.


17 posted on 01/29/2014 4:57:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: Timber Rattler

18 posted on 01/29/2014 4:58:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Timber Rattler
Boehner is unbelievably feckless. Back in the day, I thought Minority Leader Bob Michel was a punching clown for the 'Rats



but Boehner, with a majority in the House, is worse. He acts like a deflated punching bag clown. A bowl of overcooked spaghetti would stand up more firmly than he.
19 posted on 01/29/2014 5:01:32 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Timber Rattler

We are so screwed. There is no one with the balls to stand up and tell the Americans the truth and the Americans are so entrenched with what they can get from government they don’t care.
None of us can agree on anything.
We hate what’s going on but can’t agree on how to stop it.


20 posted on 01/29/2014 5:02:39 AM PST by lucky american (The Democrats will follow the big "D"even if it means going over a cliff.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
"This is just another part in the GOP’s revenge against the people who refused to back their chosen one. Doesn’t natter than many did. All must be made to pay. Jarret taught’em that."
21 posted on 01/29/2014 5:04:42 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Timber Rattler

The “Whale of a Fight” was the September government shutdown that cratered Republican poll ratings.


22 posted on 01/29/2014 5:05:00 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Timber Rattler

The “Whale of a Fight” was the September government shutdown that cratered Republican poll ratings.


23 posted on 01/29/2014 5:05:01 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Timber Rattler

They can spend at an increase of a trillion dollars per year instead of what Obama wants, which is mucho re than that

That would bring us to $20,000,000,000,000.000 debt by 2016, and then just keep going from there, if there’s no reason now to stop there won’t be any reason them to stop

That’s fourth grade math.

I can’t run for office.y situation won’t allow for it. Can somebody other tgan just Ted Cruz get in there?

The smart candidate will educate the public that money does not grow on trees. And does not come from the govt

I realize there are a lot of not as smart as fourth grader votes to buy, but there are a lot of smart people that good candidates can tap into

It’s just not going to end well if this group doesn’t get replaced. And that’s just the republicans


24 posted on 01/29/2014 5:08:19 AM PST by stanne
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To: Timber Rattler

weak lousy pathetic buffoons


25 posted on 01/29/2014 5:12:55 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: lucky american

Re-electing these clowns cannot possibly be the answer


26 posted on 01/29/2014 5:13:47 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: babble-on
The “Whale of a Fight” was the September government shutdown that cratered Republican poll ratings.

No it wasn't. The shutdown was manufactured by Harry Reid in response to Cruz and Lee trying to show the way for the GOP-E to fight back through the power of the purse. Boehner had promised the "whale of a fight" over the debt ceiling later when he was trying to get Conservatives to go along with funding the government before the shutdown. It was another false promise.

27 posted on 01/29/2014 5:19:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

Why not they surrender on everything else?


28 posted on 01/29/2014 5:19:56 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Timber Rattler

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. government can’t pay its own bills. ... I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit.” — Obama3/16/2006 Floor speech in the Senate

On March 16th of 2006, Reid took the Senate floor and delivered a speech on how raising the debt ceiling was part of an “unprecedented and dangerous borrowing spree.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GcON9yEiWk&feature=player_embedded

Currently, the three largest U.S. budget deficits in history belong to three years of the Obama administration with the highest being $1.42 trillion in 2009.

“Democrats complain about presence of debt clock on Capitol Hill”
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/26/democrats-complain-about-presence-of-debt-clock-on-capitol-hill/#ixzz2M3fq0vz3

if you don’t see it, it can’t hurt you!


29 posted on 01/29/2014 5:35:11 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: Timber Rattler

Permanently installed knee pads, for begging the Executive Branch for forgiveness.


30 posted on 01/29/2014 5:38:08 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Headlines with “GOP” usually also have the word “surrender” in them.


31 posted on 01/29/2014 5:42:35 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Timber Rattler

Are people in OH known for “false promises” or is it just Boehner?


32 posted on 01/29/2014 5:43:23 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Paine in the Neck

Boehner makes Hastert look better, but I don’t know about Michel and his liberal friends. Still both are from IL.


33 posted on 01/29/2014 5:45:17 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: babble-on

The “Whale of a Fight” was the September government shutdown that cratered Republican poll ratings.


No, Boehner has admitted that he was not all in on the shutdown. There was no “whale of a fight”. He did the absolute minimum required during the shutdown. Meanwhile, the Senate GOP was backstabbing those few conservatives actually trying to fight obamacare. You can never win a battle when you area attacked from the rear and the generals won’t fight.

This was Boehner’s plan all along. Use the shutdown drama as a reason surrender for the next 3 years.

I am surprised to see a freeper buy the beltway GOP narrative hook, line and sinker.


34 posted on 01/29/2014 5:47:09 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Timber Rattler

Pâté and caviar eating retreat monkeys.


35 posted on 01/29/2014 5:50:59 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Timber Rattler

What else is new. Who ever thought Boehner would fight?


36 posted on 01/29/2014 6:11:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Timber Rattler

That’s as predictable as “the snow will be gone by June”.


37 posted on 01/29/2014 6:36:49 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Vendome

GOP = Gathering of Pussies!


38 posted on 01/29/2014 9:06:19 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (GOP = Gathering of Pussies!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

No¡¡¡


39 posted on 01/29/2014 9:20:45 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Timber Rattler
For the record, I too believe that the Republicans will attach something (Keystone, insurance company bailout, etc.) and then cave when Harry Reid says no.

BUT please remember, this is being reported by Politico - they are not exactly Conservative. Just because Politico says it, doesn't mean it will happen.

40 posted on 01/29/2014 9:57:38 AM PST by BruceS
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