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Boehner must decide on immigration (3-Day GOP Amnesty Retreat starts today)
The Hill ^ | 1/29/14 | Russell Berman

Posted on 01/29/2014 5:42:32 AM PST by jimbo123

The release of House Republican principles on immigration reform this week will ignite a contentious debate within the GOP, forcing Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to make a series of crucial decisions in the coming months.

Boehner and other senior members are planning to present the document at the House GOP’s annual retreat on Thursday in Cambridge, Md., and the reaction of the rank and file will likely determine how aggressively the leadership will press the issue during an election year.

But if GOP leaders do move forward, they would do so with a series of discrete bills rather than the kind of comprehensive measure the Senate passed in June. The principles are not expected to be long or overly detailed, but they will mark a major shift for the House GOP leadership by endorsing legalization, under certain conditions, for millions of immigrants in the country illegally.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; chamberofcommerce; massamnesty; mexico

1 posted on 01/29/2014 5:42:32 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: All

Be sure to leave messages for your GOP Rep starting TODAY while they are at their 3-day Amnesty Retreat.

Note: Amnesty Day is THURSDAY.

Hyatt Regency Chesapeake Bay Golf Resort, Spa and Marina
100 Heron Blvd. at Route 50
Cambridge, Maryland, USA, 21613
Tel: +1 410 901 1234
Fax: +1 410 901 6302
Email: conciergechesa@hyatt.com


2 posted on 01/29/2014 5:44:34 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

A three day “Retreat”

Boehner has been pretty good at the retreat part.


3 posted on 01/29/2014 5:46:02 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: jimbo123

What’s the rush? I haven’t heard one AMERICAN complain that Congress needs to quickly pass immigration “reform”. NOT ONE!


4 posted on 01/29/2014 5:46:02 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: jimbo123

I hate to say it, but this is a done deal. Otherwise the GOPe would not have leaked this crap. They must have enough support in the GOP, and most especially for them, from the rats.

At a time when the focus should be on the economy of Americans, they go off on this stupid tangent. I swear, they have no sense of strategy.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 5:46:19 AM PST by ABQHispConservative (RINOs only strategy is to surrender. At least the French have the Foreign Legion.)
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To: jimbo123

Are they really insane enough to negotiate with someone who has already said he’ll overide anything he disagrees with?


6 posted on 01/29/2014 5:46:28 AM PST by grania
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To: ABQHispConservative

Party suicide


7 posted on 01/29/2014 5:47:25 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: jimbo123

The best thing for Boehner to say after the retreat: “After long discussion and research, we have decided to best way to tackle immigration reform is to just strictly enforce the existing laws.”


8 posted on 01/29/2014 5:47:27 AM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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To: jimbo123

An open letter to the GOP Members of the House

As a Representative in Congress, you took this Oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


"Support and defend the Constitution" it says. Did you see that? That document requires, per Art.4, S.4, that

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."


An invasion is what we are suffering. That invasion has accelerated with each "comprehensive immigration reform" previously enacted. Instead of another disastrous reform that yet again increases the incentives for millions more to try their luck crossing the southern border, a Representative who took his Oath and the Constitution seriously would be pressing for what the American people have repeatedly said they want - not what Senator Schumer, Mexico, some border state farmers and homebuilders or the Chamber of Commerce rentseekers want. That is:
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the Mexican government); and
  5. NO "Path to Citizenship" - ever - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any bill that does not accomplish these five things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably encouarge millions more illegal entries.

If the GOP is complicit in this amnesty fiasco, either by taking up the Senate bill or through some piecemeal slight of hand with a series of House bills such as we hear are being cooked up this week, the GOP will cease to exist. It will not survive through the 2016 elections. The people will shun the over-tanned, glad-handing, backslapping quislings and look elsewhere for leaders who actually have the spine for the fight. Make no mistake - to me and many, many others, amnesty is the GOP's Rubicon. Cross it at your electoral peril.

9 posted on 01/29/2014 5:47:30 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: jimbo123
RE :”But if GOP leaders do move forward, they would do so with a series of discrete bills rather than the kind of comprehensive measure the Senate passed in June. The principles are not expected to be long or overly detailed, but they will mark a major shift for the House GOP leadership by endorsing legalization, under certain conditions, for millions of immigrants in the country illegally.”

What is amazing is this is news from last summer, the series of small bills approach.

Its still the same story, Bohner must decide what to do, repeated over and over from GOP news teasers.
House leadership keeps on repeating it to keep MSM repeating it as if its news.

Keeps us fighting ghosts, small unspecified bills.

10 posted on 01/29/2014 5:51:50 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: jimbo123
Amnesty for the GOP is quite simple.

Vote to pass it and lose 30+ million votes. The 15 million illegals that will not vote for you EVER. And the 15 million pissed off voters that will NEVER vote for you again.

11 posted on 01/29/2014 5:54:23 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: FReepers

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12 posted on 01/29/2014 5:57:36 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: GeronL
Party suicide

It seems to me the democrats are backing off and leaving Boehner & McConnell with their arse hanging in the breeze on this, the idiots. They'll push this through, the media will happily hang amnesty on the GOP and there will go the senate in November.

13 posted on 01/29/2014 5:57:46 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

Who is paying for this amnesty retreat?

I guess there is no place else that they can meet, like the numerous empty meeting room that they use daily.

Ah yes our elected liars at their best, screw the voters we are way above their pay grade and deserve special treatment, perks and anything else that we want so f off.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 5:58:07 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: chiefqc
Who is paying for this amnesty retreat?

Lobbyists.
15 posted on 01/29/2014 5:59:21 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
LOL.

The GOPe have NO principles.

16 posted on 01/29/2014 6:01:25 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: chiefqc

Taxpayers are paying for security. I’m sure the Chamber of Commerce isn’t paying the Coast Guard bill.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bs-md-republican-security-zone-20140128,0,3075426.story


17 posted on 01/29/2014 6:02:35 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

> “But if GOP leaders do move forward, they would do so with a ***series of discrete bills*** ...”

And the Senate will gut it, insert full amnesty version, send it back to conference and then out for a full House vote where all the dems and 17 ‘squish’ republican moderates will pass it, then on to Obama for signature.

To summarize:

SMALL BILLS -> GUTTED BY SENATE
FULL AMNESTY BILL -> CONFERENCE
HOUSE PASSES -> 11 MILLION MEXICANS LEGALIZED

Now here is the important part:

MILLIONS OF MEXICANS REGISTER TO VOTE THIS YEAR.

And they will vote democrat.

How can they vote if they are not citizens?

Because first they don’t care about the law.

Second, voter registration forms do not require proof of citizenship.

How to stop this from happening?

NO IMMIGRATION BILL AT ALL! NOT ONE SENTENCE!

WAIT UNTIL CONSERVATIVES CONTROL THE HOUSE, SENATE AND WHITE HOUSE.

TIMING IS EVERYTHING.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 6:07:51 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: chiefqc

They also take some of their staff with them and we pay for that as well.

I wish I could go on retreats to do my job.


19 posted on 01/29/2014 6:07:55 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: jimbo123

Ah yes, you scratch my back and I’ll scratch your back.

Elected crooks at their finest.

Our countries capital is a breeding sewer for crooks and liars.


20 posted on 01/29/2014 6:09:54 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: Resolute Conservative

House RINOS + lobbyists + booze + prostitutes = GOP Amnesty for Illegals


21 posted on 01/29/2014 6:12:21 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Thanx ... my letter;

My Filipina wife is stuck in limbo after doing everything according to the book

USCIS has been "investigating" her since October 2012, a window open much longer than the 90 days advised on the USCIS

Do you think I should vote for your re-election if you vote to grant ILLEGAL immigrants ANY form of amnesty for ANY reason ?

Please advise


and of course I left full contact information

22 posted on 01/29/2014 6:15:16 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: jimbo123
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23 posted on 01/29/2014 6:16:26 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I agree we need to fix our immigration system NOW.
Deport Congress and POTUS.

Elect Mickey Mouse or the guy on the street.

They can do better.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 6:16:50 AM PST by YOMO
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To: jimbo123; Liz; GeronL; DoughtyOne

Paul Ryan on MSNBC pitching immigration right now.

He is pitching plan that sounds like it would be DOA to Dems.
He’s talking fast as usual, but it doesn’t sound like anything that they would accept.

Then he dodged Chuck Todds followup question on details, says he’s not ready to talk about that.
cant trust him at all.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 6:26:22 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: ABQHispConservative
"I hate to say it, but this is a done deal."

I am afraid I have to agree with you. The only question is does Amnesty pass before the election or during the lame duck session. Twenty some Republicans and the Democrat caucus would have the votes to put it over the top. GOP? or Dem?, pretty much the same.

26 posted on 01/29/2014 6:28:33 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: jimbo123

boehner, mcconnel, and the rest of the republican party “leadership”
are going to throw conservatives and Tea Partiers under the bus.
Time for a new, real conservative party.
Eouggh of this dem lite crappola.


27 posted on 01/29/2014 6:29:19 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: ABQHispConservative
"I swear, they have no sense of strategy."

The GOP is the Stupid Party. They earned that name over decades of stupidity.

28 posted on 01/29/2014 6:32:47 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: sickoflibs

Ryan’s goal is to get the House bills into conference with the Senate. Then they’ll be “fixed” by the RATS and RINOS in the Senate and the conference passed by the House with 25 or so GOP votes and 100% of the RATS.


29 posted on 01/29/2014 6:36:30 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
RE :”Ryan’s goal is to get the House bills into conference with the Senate. Then they’ll be “fixed” by the RATS and RINOS in the Senate and the conference passed by the House with 25 or so GOP votes and 100% of the RATS.”

Ryan is a fast talker.
I thought he said NO amnesty at all until the border is secured, which has been promised before by Rubio.
then he dodged further questions, typical teasers.

I dont believe anything Ryan says but I figured I would mention it.

30 posted on 01/29/2014 6:40:55 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: jimbo123

As if there is any doubt how the traitorous coward collaborator John Boehner is going to decide.


31 posted on 01/29/2014 6:48:21 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: jimbo123

You know, back during the Bush II years, Congress passed a law authorizing a completely fenced off southern border....physical and/or electronic.

That hasn’t been funded or completed, despite the constant growth of the welfare state.

Now from my reading of the Constitution, the Congress and the states are supposed to protect and maintain the integrity of our national borders.

Let Boehner start with that, and then worry about the path to citizenship later.


32 posted on 01/29/2014 6:52:55 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: jimbo123
The GOP is on a suicide watch.

If they decide to support "immigration reform" they have pulled the trigger.

They will have blown the golden opportunity to save America, the Constitution, their base, and their Party all together in 2014 for a bowl of watery, cold, dog poop soup they get to beg for at the Democrat table.

33 posted on 01/29/2014 6:59:27 AM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: jimbo123

When Boehner sells America out four things will happen in this order: A) the Republican Party will begin to collapse and finally disappear (The Whigs laugh at this one) B) America will be slammed into catastrophic disorder as millions of greedy new Democrats merely stroll over our southern border, C) the Catholic Church in America’s death spiral will begin. The new Democrats will vote for the very people who want to destroy the Catholic Church and will do just that when they are 350 in the House and 72 in the Senate. D) the “too smart by half scumbags in the Chamber of Commerce will see short term benefit until they are forced to unionize all their workers who will then drive up prices so high that no one will buy their products. All of this will be the fault Boehner and the Republicans and I will never vote Republican again.


34 posted on 01/29/2014 7:18:06 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37
If the GOPe allows any sort of legalization to pass there will be no reason for a conservative to continue voting. 20-50 million new dirt poor illiterate voters in the next decade will ALWAYS vote for an expanded state, they will NEVER be swayed by appeals to individual initiative and rugged individualism.

It'll be game, set, match for the Statists.

And I and many others will curse this corrupt gang of republicans till the day we die.

35 posted on 01/29/2014 7:30:47 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Paine in the Neck

Thanks for your open letter - I copied it and sent it (with a couple of slight revisions) to Lamar Smith. I know that he’s on the right side (no pun intended) of this question, but let him know in no uncertain terms that my vote, and that of my (formerly Mexican, now citizen) wife are not a lock for him or anyone else in the GOP if this POS bill gets passed with any GOP help. I made it clear that either a comprehensive bill or some piecemeal POS that did the same thing after some legislative shenanigans would be the end of the GOP.

I hope it works - but many tens of thousands of us have to write to or call Congress SOON to do anything about this.


36 posted on 01/29/2014 7:48:09 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Ancesthntr

You’re welcome. Anyone who wants to use it is free to.

In fact, a good use would be to fax it to the Hyatt where they’re meeting. The fax number is back at the begining of this thread. Just address it to Hyatt Regency, Attn: [your congressman].


37 posted on 01/29/2014 7:58:10 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Disgusting.


38 posted on 01/29/2014 8:00:36 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: jimbo123

Are ALL GOP Reps attending this posh retreat?


39 posted on 01/29/2014 8:05:09 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long
Are ALL GOP Reps attending this posh retreat?

About 90-95% of them are attending.
40 posted on 01/29/2014 8:11:33 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
How about this, for a fax message...

Dear Rep. ____________,
Since I am footing all/part of the bill for you to attend this swanky "Amnesty" *retreat*, here is my message to you and ALL GOP Reps in attendance...

NO AMNESTY!! NOT NOW, NOT EVER. Stop the entitlements and build the d@#n fence.

Thank you.

41 posted on 01/29/2014 8:17:24 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ABQHispConservative
I swear, they have no sense of strategy.

They are master strategists. They are going to pass Amnesty despite the furious opposition of their base and the American people while at the same time, get re-elected and, most importantly, maintain the illusion that there are two major political parties.

42 posted on 01/29/2014 8:18:43 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Jane Long

The conference is paid for by lobbyists. Security is being paid for by us taxpayers. As well as the salaries of congressmen/women and their staff.


43 posted on 01/29/2014 8:20:06 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Yes. That’s why I said “all/part”.


44 posted on 01/29/2014 8:23:07 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: jimbo123; Hostage; Tennessee Nana; All

Obama’s OFA Thanks Paul Ryan, John McCain for Helping Push Amnesty

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/01/01/obamas-ofa-thanks-paul-ryan-john-mccain-for-helping-push-amnesty/#sthash.pU4CTdnW.dpuf


45 posted on 01/29/2014 8:27:08 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Jane Long

Send the FAX!


46 posted on 01/29/2014 8:27:36 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: sickoflibs

Conservatives should also not accept Ryan’s plan


47 posted on 01/29/2014 9:35:21 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: skeeter

Could easily lose the House too


48 posted on 01/29/2014 9:36:47 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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