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Ryan: Legal status won't be 'automatic' (Ryan pitches GOP Mass Amnesty scheme on MSNBC)
The Hill ^ | 1/29/14 | Mario Trujillo

Posted on 01/29/2014 8:23:51 AM PST by jimbo123

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) confirmed on Wednesday that the House GOP’s principles on immigration reform would endorse giving legal status to undocumented immigrants.

Ryan reiterated there would be no “special” pathway to citizenship for those immigrants, but said they would be able to apply for a green card after a long set of requirement were met. He did not, however, provide a timeline.

The former vice presidential candidate said the principles would also outline a probationary work status those illegal immigrants would be initially defined under until the border is secure and a host of other requirements are satisfied.

“That is the kind of broad brush here — that is the kind of process we envision that is not a special pathway to citizenship, and it is not automatically, in anyway, giving an undocumented immigrant citizenship,” he said on MSNBC.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; fraud; goaway; massamnesty; msnbc; paulryan; rino; sellout; traitor

1 posted on 01/29/2014 8:23:51 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

At least not until it hits the first liberal judge that can get his/her hands on it.


2 posted on 01/29/2014 8:24:47 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: jimbo123

Ryan bring back jobs.

First.

Jobs.


3 posted on 01/29/2014 8:25:11 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: jimbo123

As I read in another recent piece, the GOP will NEVER be able to jump high enough to appease the Leftist Amnesty pushers, who want no borders at all. Any attempt to do so is self-defeating.


4 posted on 01/29/2014 8:25:20 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ryan’s toast


5 posted on 01/29/2014 8:25:44 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: jimbo123

I would LOVE to see Ryan get his ass kicked in the coming Primay in Wisconsin. I have had it with these Squishy political hacks that are working with Obama to diminish every good thing that our country has to offer.


6 posted on 01/29/2014 8:27:44 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: knarf

Agree...Lyin’ Ryan IS toast.

Obama’s OFA Thanks Paul Ryan, John McCain for Helping Push Amnesty

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/01/01/obamas-ofa-thanks-paul-ryan-john-mccain-for-helping-push-amnesty/#sthash.pU4CTdnW.dpuf


7 posted on 01/29/2014 8:28:46 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: jimbo123
Was Paul lying before, or is he lying now?
8 posted on 01/29/2014 8:28:49 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: knarf

The left has made a huge deal that Obamacare does not cover illegal aliens. Now, the left and the RINOs want to give some sort of legal status to 11 million. Any type of legal status will make them all eligible......


9 posted on 01/29/2014 8:29:03 AM PST by shankbear (The tree of Liberty appears to be perishing because there are few patriots willing to refresh it.)
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To: jimbo123
RE :”The former vice presidential candidate said the principles would also outline a probationary work status those illegal immigrants would be initially defined under until the border is secure and a host of other requirements are satisfied. “

Similar to what I told you I heard, although that sentence doesn't quite makes sense :”...a probationary work status those illegal immigrants would be initially defined under until the border is secure....”

Could mean anything.

10 posted on 01/29/2014 8:31:13 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: jimbo123

Okay, I have one question:

If you call this new state “legal status” by some gerrymandering of words and law, then does that mean once you implement this plan (that we don’t want, by the way), you’re actually gonna arrest and deport those NOT getting “legal status”?

Nah, I didn’t think so.


11 posted on 01/29/2014 8:31:20 AM PST by alancarp
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To: jimbo123; rktman; skeeter; RitaOK; All

The Federal Border Laws that are now on the books are not being enforced by Federal Politicians.

Given how frequently our Federal Politicians lie to us, why should we expect that any new Federal Border Laws will be enforced?


12 posted on 01/29/2014 8:31:22 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: jimbo123

13 posted on 01/29/2014 8:32:58 AM PST by McGruff (I'm a conservative. Not necessarily a republican.)
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To: Graewoulf

Borders? We don’t need no steenkin’ borders!


14 posted on 01/29/2014 8:33:07 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: jimbo123

Legalization = amnesty. Period.


15 posted on 01/29/2014 8:33:55 AM PST by lodi90
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To: knarf

Ryan did such a great job for the vets let him write the bill for immigration reform, with intervertent mistakes that will be corrected later, to be included at no additional cost.


16 posted on 01/29/2014 8:34:12 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: shankbear
The left has made a huge deal that Obamacare does not cover illegal aliens. Now, the left and the RINOs want to give some sort of legal status to 11 million. Any type of legal status will make them all eligible......


17 posted on 01/29/2014 8:34:45 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: jimbo123

Ryan is really a disappointment.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 8:35:32 AM PST by Pietro
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To: jimbo123
Reince Priebus singing the same tune on Morning Joe.

Priebus: It's All Been Decided

You have to wait a bit to get to the immigration part but it is breathtaking.

"We all agree it is time for something big on immigration," he says.

Who voted for this guy? Who the hell put him and Paul Ryan in charge of our country?

Please give this a look, and call your congressman if you haven't already.

We are being betrayed by these Republicans in a way far worse than Lord Obama's head-on assault.

19 posted on 01/29/2014 8:36:14 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: jimbo123

My mistake, he is saying temporary amnesty until some unrelated conditions are met.

Just like the Senate bill.

He talked real fast when he said it, typical Paul Ryan,


20 posted on 01/29/2014 8:36:43 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: jimbo123

American politicians are hell-bent on getting the invaders legalized. Warning: It is a loser among most groups of voters. Politicians who propose it or vote for it are politically doomed.


21 posted on 01/29/2014 8:37:08 AM PST by Rapscallion (Had enough? Let me know.)
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To: jimbo123

Of course it’s a special path: it allows them to live here, soaking up jobs and benefits and birthing US citizens for any period they have to wait until they become legal voters.

It’s amnesty!


22 posted on 01/29/2014 8:37:42 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rktman

The result is going to be that 12million or whatever number of illegals will be handed a card that allows them to stay with little or no action on their part..none will be deported. Somewhere done the line there will be a further amnesty or court action that grants them citizenship rights...criminals and all.
The real reform needed in our immigration laws is the need to enforce them.
Cut off the jobs..deport all those that come into contact with law enforcement and punish those that hire them.


23 posted on 01/29/2014 8:37:51 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: fwdude

As I read in another recent piece, the GOP will NEVER be able to jump high enough to appease the Leftist Amnesty pushers, who want no borders at all. Any attempt to do so is self-defeating.


The Dems are winning because they always play on the GOP end of the field. Instead of going on offense with a little pro American job populism the GOP gives the Dems the ball on the one yard line with a weak, defensive game plan.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 8:38:20 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jimbo123

Translated: it *will* be automatic, but we want you to believe otherwise for as long as possible.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 8:38:40 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: fwdude

The GOP is rushing to provide amnesty. The only reason they’re not pushing full and complete open borders and immediate citizenship is because they know the American people will definitely rise up against that.


26 posted on 01/29/2014 8:38:47 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldexpat

Along with their “card” will be a voter ID card allowing them to vote themselves more benefits. Immigrate to meh-hee-co and see if you’re ever allowed to vote. (But why would you do that???) :>}


27 posted on 01/29/2014 8:40:41 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: jimbo123

“Oh, don’t worry, Mr. Jones. The squatter who moved illegally into your guest house won’t automatically be made a member of your family. Why, we’re going to give him a real stern talking-to before allowing him to remain in your guest house forever, requiring you to support him and making him an heir in your will! There. Now, doesn’t that make everything okay?”


28 posted on 01/29/2014 8:41:35 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: jimbo123

We may very well decide on humanitarian grounds, that we must allow some of the people who have come here in violation of the law and who have stayed here in violation of the law, and who have worked here in violation of the law, to have some legal status to live and work here. We DO NOT OWE THEM ANYTHING ELSE! And we especially do not owe them the right to vote.

If we grant such people the vote, we would be MAKING A GRAVE MISTAKE if only because the law must mean something of value to those we allow to vote on who will be in office.


29 posted on 01/29/2014 8:41:58 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: jimbo123

Here is their out. They will grant amnesty and say that they can not vote for ex, amount of years. A court will over rule this law and these people will get their voting rights. The E-pubes will then claim it was the courts who did it and the only one who will win will be the commies.


30 posted on 01/29/2014 8:42:07 AM PST by luv2ndamend (Same party, different letter)
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To: luv2ndamend

Exactly. The courts will say something like, “oh, we can’t have two classes of citizens... lets make them the same”


31 posted on 01/29/2014 8:43:33 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jimbo123

I have no problem with this as long as one of the requirements is that the illegal invaders return to their home countries and get at the back of the line.

Ryan has proven himself to be just another democrat and anyone who even suggests amnesty should be tried for treason!


32 posted on 01/29/2014 8:43:40 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: All

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33 posted on 01/29/2014 8:45:07 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Bull. Any type of legalization will be de facto citizenship given the way the federal government executes immigration law and doles out benefits. Don’t ever trust anything the GOP Ruling Class says about immigration.


34 posted on 01/29/2014 8:47:02 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: luv2ndamend

Here is their out. They will grant amnesty and say that they can not vote for ex, amount of years. A court will over rule this law and these people will get their voting rights. The E-pubes will then claim it was the courts who did it and the only one who will win will be the commies.


The GOP leadership can claim and spin as much as they want.

This is little short of treason in a bad economy and with a rampaging marxist in the WH.

If amnesty is a central plank of the GOP platform I am not voting for anyone with an (R) behind their name on the 2014 ballot. Conservatives need to send a very clear message to the GOP now: Play with this fire and they will die as a party.


35 posted on 01/29/2014 8:48:39 AM PST by lodi90
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36 posted on 01/29/2014 8:48:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: alancarp
If you call this new state “legal status” by some gerrymandering of words and law, then does that mean once you implement this plan (that we don’t want, by the way), you’re actually gonna arrest and deport those NOT getting “legal status”?

No. You still need somebody to do the work that the legals won't do.

37 posted on 01/29/2014 8:53:46 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: jimbo123

Giving legal status to undocumented immigrants.
We don’t need any stinking laws we need votes.


38 posted on 01/29/2014 8:54:13 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: theBuckwheat
The illegal invaders must NEVER be gifted with our precious citizenship because there is NO way to stop them from having the right to vote. The 1965 Voting Rights Act will give them a vote.
39 posted on 01/29/2014 8:55:16 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: knarf

Ryan is going to find himself more and more comfortable on MSNBC, hawking sure votes for Democrats, from this pool of un-assimilated illegals who are about to be rewarded by his efforts.

Positively lawless activity.


40 posted on 01/29/2014 9:09:20 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Ryan isn’t even referring to the current crop of undocumented democrats as immigrants anymore. Immigrants who take American jobs are only those who will come here in the future according to Ryan.

Total sophistry from the GOP “leadership”. The GOP is stupidly fighting the 2026 election while the Dems go all out for 2014.


41 posted on 01/29/2014 9:15:30 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jimbo123

Yeah, it will take a day.


42 posted on 01/29/2014 9:26:21 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Old Yeller
Want to know why 3 Million Conservatives stayed at home in 2012?
43 posted on 01/29/2014 10:02:46 AM PST by scooby321
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To: jimbo123

ryan is effing done.


44 posted on 01/29/2014 10:03:06 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jimbo123

I know why Ryan is doing this, but I would be flamed from every direction on FreeRep if I identified his controlling interest in Amnesty, beyond some obvious political ones; a greater one that is driving his political outlook on it. Go ahead and debate what you think that is, but I am going to keep my powder dry, I don’t want to cut all my bridges here.


45 posted on 01/29/2014 10:03:27 AM PST by Wuli
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To: jimbo123

‘Ryan’, a four letter word meaning traitor.


46 posted on 01/29/2014 10:04:01 AM PST by Pelham (Obamacare, the vanguard of Obammunism)
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To: Pietro

I think he is part of the “cheap jobs” Republican establishment.


47 posted on 01/29/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: jimbo123

What a jackass Ryan has turned out to be. He’s no better than a Democrat anymore. This fraud has been bought and paid for.


48 posted on 01/29/2014 1:01:00 PM PST by alstewartfan (Every heart is a lonely hunter when she walks by. Al Stewart)
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