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Conservatives oppose Boehner on immigration
McClatchyDC ^ | 1/29/14 | Franco Ordonez

Posted on 01/29/2014 9:22:04 AM PST by jimbo123

Top House Republican leaders' ambitious plans to tackle immigration this year may already be in trouble before the House Speaker has even had a chance to unveil his ideas on how to fix problems that have long plagued the nation and, more recently, divided the GOP.

Republicans on Wednesday kick off a three-day retreat where leaders are expected, among other initiatives, to call for legal status for millions of undocumented immigrants. Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, will unveil his legislative outline that’s also likely to include strengthening border security, adding more high tech visas, and revamping the guest worker program.

But several members of the influential Republican Study Committee say a consensus is growing that bringing immigration to the floor this year is a bad idea and could seriously hurt the party in an otherwise positive looking year. There were subdued cheers on the Republican side of the gallery during the State of the Union Tuesday night when President Barack Obama called for immigration reform this year.

“It’s time,” Obama said.

Hours beforehand, members and staff of the Republican Study committee huddled on Capitol Hill. Several stood up and expressed concerns that an explosive debate on immigration could wipe out Republican political gains over Obama’s healthcare plan.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; boehneramnesty; conservatives; gopamnesty; massamnesty

1 posted on 01/29/2014 9:22:04 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
Whigs.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/29/2014 9:23:54 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jimbo123

The problems stem from a lack of enforcement.


3 posted on 01/29/2014 9:24:46 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: jimbo123

GOPe, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for 50 years.


4 posted on 01/29/2014 9:24:56 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: jimbo123

Contract border and immigration control to the Israelis.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 9:25:50 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: jimbo123
House Republicans are hiding out while they plot to ratify the invasion of the border states. Don't let them get away with it. Fax the open letter below, edited if you wish, to your Representative's attention at

Hyatt Regency Chesapeake Bay
Fax: +1 410 901 6302

An open letter to the GOP Members of the House

As a Representative in Congress, you took this Oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."


"Support and defend the Constitution" it says. Did you see that? That document requires, per Art.4, S.4, that

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."


An invasion is what we are suffering. That invasion has accelerated with each "comprehensive immigration reform" previously enacted. Instead of another disastrous reform that yet again increases the incentives for millions more to try their luck crossing the southern border, a Representative who took his Oath and the Constitution seriously would be pressing for what the American people have repeatedly said they want - not what Senator Schumer, Mexico, some border state farmers and homebuilders or the Chamber of Commerce rentseekers want. That is:
  1. secure the border in a transparently verifiable way;
  2. end the anchor-baby interpretation of the 14th Amendment;
  3. enforce eVerify without exception and with severe penalties;
  4. no government benefits beyond critical emergency care (and that ought to be billed back to the Mexican government); and
  5. NO "Path to Citizenship" - ever - for anyone who has entered the US illegally.
Any bill that does not accomplish these five things is unacceptable. It is de facto amnesty. And it will inevitably encouarge millions more illegal entries.

If the GOP is complicit in this amnesty fiasco, either by taking up the Senate bill or through some piecemeal slight of hand with a series of House bills such as we hear are being cooked up this week, the GOP will cease to exist. It will not survive through the 2016 elections. The people will shun the over-tanned, glad-handing, backslapping quislings and look elsewhere for leaders who actually have the spine for the fight. Make no mistake - to me and many, many others, amnesty is the GOP's Rubicon. Cross it at your electoral peril.

6 posted on 01/29/2014 9:27:33 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: jimbo123

I heard Rush Limbaugh say the republicans are for this because donors want amnesty. Does anybody know who these donors are? and why they are so stupid? Amnesty doesn’t help ANYBODY except illegal aliens and the democratic party.


7 posted on 01/29/2014 9:29:05 AM PST by Cubs Fan (Obama-worst president in American History)
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To: jimbo123
My favorite way to begin discussions with the pro-amnesty crowd is to start with this suggestion:

How about we start by giving a green card to every high school valedictorian in return for the deportation of every drug mule? Then we can give green cards to the next class of aliens we agree is most desirable (for instance, net taxpayers who have learned English) in return for the next least desirable class (for example, gang bangers and felons).

As the process progresses and we show real border enforcement, eventually the numbers will work down to something like the two million or so covered by the 1986 amnesty.

In general, they refuse to entertain any such discussions because they don't want to deport anybody and don't want border enforcement. They want a "comprehensive solution" in exchange for a promise they have no intentions to keep.

8 posted on 01/29/2014 9:31:33 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cubs Fan

http://www.hrpolicy.org/downloads/2013/CHRO_Immigration_Reform_Letter.pdf

Michele A. Carlin
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Communications
Motorola Solutions, Inc.
Chair, Immigration Policy Committee
HR Policy Association

Mirian M. Graddick-Weir
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Merck & Co., Inc.
Chair
HR Policy Association
David Almeda
Chief People Officer
Kronos Incorporated

Elizabeth B. Amato
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Organization
United Technologies Corporation

Marcia J. Avedon
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Communications
Ingersoll Rand Company

Dina Barmasse-Gray
Senior Vice President Human Resources
The Cheesecake Factory, Inc.

Mark F. Biegger
Chief Human Resources Officer
The Procter & Gamble Company

Lisa G. Bisaccia
Senior Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
CVS Caremark Corporation

William A. Blase
Senior Executive Vice President, Human
Resources
AT&T Inc.

Robert C. Bloss
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Hallmark Cards, Inc.

September 10, 2013
Page 3

Cynthia K. Brabander
Executive Vice President, Chief Human
Resources Officer
Eaton

Sharon M. Brady
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Illinois Tool Works Inc.

Benito Cachinero-Sánchez
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Company

Dean Carter
Chief Human Resources Officer
Sears Holdings Corporation

Rizwan Chand
Vice President, Human Resources and Medical
Chief Human Resources Officer
BNSF Railway Company

Brian J. Cook
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Corporate Communications
USG Corporation

Lawrence B. Costello
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Tyco International

L. Kevin Cox
Chief Human Resources Officer
American Express Company

Bruce Culpepper
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Americas
Shell Oil Company

Michael D’Ambrose
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resource
Officer
Archer Daniels Midland Company

Michael L. Davis
Senior Vice President, Global Human
Resources
General Mills, Inc.

Susan F. Davis
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Johnson Controls, Inc.

Dennis T. Delaney
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
and Administration
Ingram Industries Inc.

James D. DeVries
Executive Vice President and Chief
Administrative Officer
Allstate Insurance Company

John DiBenedetto
Executive Vice President, Chief People Officer
General Parts Inc.

James J. Duffy
Chief Human Resources Officer
Ally Financial Inc.

Robert L. Duffy
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Administration
Harris Corporation

Ceree Eberly
Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer
The Coca-Cola Company

Joann M. Eisenhart
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Northwestern Mutual
David J. Esler
Chief Human Resources Officer
US Foods
September 10, 2013
Page 4

Edward A. Evans
Executive Vice President, Chief Human
Resources Officer
Univar, Inc.

Robyn Ewing
Senior Vice President and Chief
Administrative Officer
The Williams Companies, Inc.

Peter M. Fasolo
Chief Human Resources Officer
Johnson & Johnson

Richard R. Floersch
Executive Vice President, Chief Human
Resources Officer
McDonald’s Corporation

Melanie M. Foley
Senior Vice President, Manager, Human
Resources and Administration
Liberty Mutual Group, Inc.

Roger C. Gaston
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Avaya Inc.

Michael Geary
Corporate Vice President, Human Resources
Kiewit Corporation

Anita Graham
Chief Human Resources and Administrative
Officer
The ADT Corporation

Jennifer L. Grant
Vice President, Human Resources
Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.

Kimberly S. Hauer
Vice President and Chief Human Resources
Officer
Caterpillar Inc.

Joseph C. High
Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer
W.W. Grainger, Inc.

Charles H. Hill
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Pfizer Inc.

Anne Hill
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resources
and Communications Officer
Avery Dennison Corporation

Sunita Holzer
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Computer Sciences Corporation

Tim Huval
Chief Human Resources Officer
Humana Inc.

Mark R. James
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Communications
Honeywell International Inc.

Leslie W. Joyce
Senior Vice President and Chief People Officer
Novelis, Inc.

Paul J. Karre
Senior Vice President, HR and
Communications
International Paper Company

September 10, 2013
Page 5

Tracy Keogh
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Hewlett-Packard Company

Pamela O. Kimmet
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Coca-Cola Enterprises, Inc.

Jay L. Kloosterboer
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Dover Corporation

Lawrence J. Krema
Senior Vice President of Human Resources
and Corporate Operations
Simon Property Group

Angela S. Lalor
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Danaher Corporation

Denise Lynn
Senior Vice President – People
American Airlines Inc.

Neil E. Marchuk
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
TRW Automotive

Bill Mateikis
Senior Vice President, HR & Legal
Daikin McQuay Americas

William Matson
Chief Human Resource Officer
Analog Devices, Inc.

Teresa E. McCaslin
Executive Vice President – Chief Human
Resources & Administrative Officer
Continental Grain Company

John McDevitt
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Labor Relations
United Parcel Service, Inc.

Eileen McGuire
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
MSC Industrial Direct Co., Inc.

Michael L. Meyer
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Ecolab, Inc.

Kenneth F. Meyers
SVP & Chief Human Resources Officer
Hospira, Inc.

MaryAnn Miller
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resources
Officer
Avnet, Inc.

Jeffrey Mook
Executive Vice President & Chief Human
Resources Officer
21st Century Fox

Harold Morgan
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resources
Officer
White Lodging Corporation

John M. Murabito
Executive Vice President, Human Resources &
Services
Cigna Corporation

Larry L. Myers
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
T-Mobile USA, Inc.

Daisy Ng
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resources
Officer
Darden Restaurants, Inc.
September 10, 2013
Page 6

Jed L. Norden
Senior Vice President Human Resources
The ServiceMaster Company

Susan C. Nutson
Senior Vice President – Human Resources
Saint-Gobain Corporation

Dermot J. O’Brien
Chief Human Resources Officer
Automatic Data Processing, Inc.

Walter M. Oliver
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Administration
General Dynamics Corporation

David A. Pace
Executive Vice President and Chief Resource
Officer
Bloomin’ Brands Inc.

Jayne Parker
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
The Walt Disney Company

Kevin Pennington
Executive Vice President of Human Resources
Fiserv, Inc.

Cecile K. Perich
Senior Vice President Human Relations
McCormick & Company, Inc.

Susan P. Peters
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
General Electric Company

Mark A. Petrarca
Senior Vice President, Human Resources and
Public Affairs
A. O. Smith Corporation

Debra Plousha Moore
Chief Human Resources Officer, Executive
Vice President
Carolinas HealthCare System

Marc C. Reed
Chief Administrative Officer
Verizon Communications Inc.

John P. Reing
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
SRA International

David A. Rodriguez
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Marriott International, Inc.

Michael G. Rohret
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Emerson

Sally A. Savoia
Vice President, Human Resources
Praxair, Inc.

Susan J. Schmitt
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
Rockwell Automation, Inc.

Matthew W. Schuyler
Chief Human Resources Officer
Hilton Worldwide

Daniel S. Serbin
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
Parker Hannifin Corporation

Jeffrey S. Shuman
Senior Vice President, Chief Human Resources
Officer
Quest Diagnostics Incorporated
September 10, 2013
Page 7

John M. Steele
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
HCA Inc.

Larry E. Steward
Vice President, Human Resources
DTE Energy Company

Perry Stuckey
Senior Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Eastman Chemical Company

Susan M. Suver
Vice President, Human Resources
U.S. Steel Corporation

Mara E. Swan
Executive Vice President, Global Strategy and
Talent
ManpowerGroup

Jim M. Sweet
Chief Human Resources Officer
Newell Rubbermaid Inc.

Teresa J. Tanner
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Fifth Third Bank

Kurt J. Thomas
Vice President Human Resources
Mortgage Guaranty Insurance Corporation

Johnna G. Torsone
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Pitney Bowes Inc.

Peter Vrijsen
Chief Human Resources Officer
Cargill, Incorporated

Sara Wade
Senior Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Express Scripts, Inc.

Sylvia R. Wagner
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
and Development
Assurant, Inc.

Carole S. Watkins
Chief Human Resources Officer
Cardinal Health, Inc.

Robb Webb
Chief Human Resources Officer
Hyatt Hotels Corporation

Thomas W. Weidenkopf
Executive Vice President, Human Resources
and Communications
Aleris International, Inc.

Scott A. Weisberg
Chief People Officer
The Wendy’s Company

Kathleen Weslock
Senior Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
Cisco Systems, Inc.

Eileen G. Whelley
Executive Vice President and Chief Human
Resources Officer
XL Global Services, Inc

September 10, 2013
Page 8

Darla Whitaker
Senior Vice President, Worldwide Human
Resources
Texas Instruments Incorporated

Richard Williams
SVP Human Resources & Interim CHRO
Western Union

Kimberly G. Windrow
Vice President, Human Resources
WESCO International

Christine A. Wolf
Senior Vice President, Human Resources
ATK


9 posted on 01/29/2014 9:32:28 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Cubs Fan

More GOP Amnesty donors:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/30/nyregion/house-republicans-immigration-letter.html?_r=0


10 posted on 01/29/2014 9:36:05 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Cubs Fan

I heard Rush Limbaugh say the republicans are for this because donors want amnesty. Does anybody know who these donors are? and why they are so stupid? Amnesty doesn’t help ANYBODY except illegal aliens and the democratic party.


Because amnesty helps progressives of all political stripes, Dem and “Republican”.


11 posted on 01/29/2014 9:37:12 AM PST by lodi90
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To: jimbo123; Liz

From what I have read here (mostly your posts jimbo) GOP house leadership is hardly designing proposals that the Dems will find tough to support,
they sound like what Dems want for the most part (not all of them get citizenship, big deal)

But like Rubio on the Senate bill, Bohner/Ryan/etc will try to portray their proposals as a tough pill for Obama to swallow and say they dare him to veto them. to try to fool us.

That is exactly the scam Rubio tried to pull.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 9:38:38 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: GeronL
More on Ryan plan here #12 this thread
13 posted on 01/29/2014 9:39:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: jimbo123
Just about all human resource executives. Could it be the cheap foreign labor is what they lust for?

It does seem as if the alliance between constitutional conservatives and those who only care about profits is way beyond repair.

14 posted on 01/29/2014 9:44:24 AM PST by grania
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To: sickoflibs; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; Grampa Dave

Wouldn’t it be a kicker if all the pro-amny Pubbies got Montezuma’s Revenge at the retreat?

ROTFLOL.


15 posted on 01/29/2014 12:02:12 PM PST by Liz
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To: sickoflibs

16 posted on 01/29/2014 12:10:34 PM PST by Liz
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To: jimbo123

This is a screwed if we do, screwed if we don’t situation.

McCain and Grams pointing out the demographic doom of the Republican party lable and perhaps brand doesn’t help things. As usually they Naively believe Democrats stop using race bating to enslave the electorate to their whims if we give them this.

Everyone who isent a back stabling traitor like McCain and Gram knows the democrats would never sanely give up such an effective political device and it doesn’t matter what we do. So long as they have a dominating presence in what theses people see & hear Dems will make up whatever else they need to justify their fear.

What we require is a presence in the Hispanic community equal to or greater than what the Dem’s already have to campaign as them and among them for conservative family values that we Know they share. Short of that it doesn’t matter what John does in Washington.


17 posted on 01/29/2014 2:23:40 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: jimbo123

This is the same House “leadership” that tried to get us to be Al Qaeda’ air force in Syria and start a new Middle East and perhaps world war.

They are the Enemy and we must remove them.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 2:34:46 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Cubs Fan

The donors are businesses whose CEO’s make bonuses on short-term results. They can make money by reducing their short-term labor costs with cheap foreign labor.

It’s all about their money, the CEO’s and their GOP whores’ in Congress.

When the legalized invaders vote Rat, tax rates will go up and the rest of society will be reduced to poverty. These CEO’s and elected GOP whores don’t care. It’s all about their personal wealth.


19 posted on 01/29/2014 2:37:49 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: jimbo123

So far, the Republicans have given Obama pretty much everything he wants.

I doubt that will change any time in the near future.


20 posted on 01/29/2014 3:05:14 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: jimbo123

HOUSTON ALERT: I’ll say...if you live in Houston or surrounding area please come out and help us in She-Jack’s district. We will demonstrate against any legalization/amnesty schemes pulled up by treacherous RINOs.

http://www.stopthemagnet.com/blog/conservative-backlash-event


21 posted on 01/29/2014 3:31:02 PM PST by magna carta
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To: Monorprise

Probably would be better if we just had less hispanics.


22 posted on 01/29/2014 4:54:48 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: grania

Cheap foreign labor is exactly what they lust for. The trick is that they don’t individually want to hire illegals but they will tell you that the presence of illegals keeps the price/ wage pressure down on the rest that are legal. Just the threat that your boss might exchange you for an illegal chicken plucker is enough to keep you from asking for more money. No less a genius than Bill Gates whines and bellyaches about how he needs more techies. But he pines to be able to hire furriners instead of ponying up for locals because the furriners tend to be willing to work cheaper——not that there aren’t as many home grown geeks around as he actually needs. As best I can tell it’s not actually the amnesty part of reform that all these blowhards want-—it’s the opening up of quotas and loosening of rules about stay-time, etc. that they really want.


23 posted on 01/29/2014 5:10:25 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Cubs Fan

Chamber of Commerce wants it.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 5:16:08 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Girlene

Would it not just be easier to boycott these businesses and give them the big slap?

I am happy to report that there are only two on this list I need to investigate.
SCREW em all and tell your friends.
Personally do not do social media but there are plenty of you face bookers and tweeters out there! Go Get “em!


25 posted on 01/29/2014 7:50:08 PM PST by acapesket
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To: escapefromboston

You know how they define “Hispanic”? It is literally its anyone who has ancestors that spoke Spanish. Latino is anyone who has ancestors that spoke a romance language.

That literally includes almost everyone of European ancestry, so broad is the group they have tried to define. But why define and alienate a separate class of men?

The truth is all of theses factors should be ill-relevant here in the USA where people now speak English as the common language. But I suppose that is what offends us about their leaders who have campained against that which all our ancesstors did assimulation.

But their ‘leaders’ much as is also the case with blacks are self-appointed men trying to create a political movement under the guise of civil rights but now little more than race baiters.

The point is if its not theses people who are host to this virus the democrats will simply choose anther. Radical unity and hate is how the democratic party has operated for more than 150 years.


26 posted on 01/29/2014 7:59:15 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: jimbo123

Amnesty = third party.

I will never vote R again.

If I didn’t understand the suicidal nature of the GOP elite I would be amazed at their stupidity. As it is, I am just saddened. RIP, what was once an exceptional country.


27 posted on 01/29/2014 8:23:33 PM PST by RugerMini14
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To: jimbo123
Several stood up and expressed concerns that an explosive debate on immigration could wipe out Republican political gains over Obama’s healthcare plan.

Country Clubbers are skating on some mighty thin ice.

All hell will be unleashed if they launch this attack on the working man.

28 posted on 01/29/2014 8:32:55 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Paladin2

and we have absolutely NO reason to trust GOPe leaders on this issue, even if they promised enforcement first


29 posted on 01/29/2014 9:46:40 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: grania
Just about all human resource executives. Could it be the cheap foreign labor is what they lust for?

How cheap can labor be considering the minimum price is fixed already by the Federal government? Abolish the Welfare program and there will be millions of looking work for any price.

30 posted on 01/29/2014 11:14:33 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: jimbo123
They can fix the problem by enforcing existing laws.

Why don't they enforce the laws?????

31 posted on 01/30/2014 12:50:33 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

How many people would be supporting amnesty if they knew the ACTUAL numbers of illegals who have swarmed into this country?

Combined with an open border, a continuous acceptance of illegal babies being called citizens under the 14th Amendment by using a wrong interpretation of such Amendment, and a deliberate effort by countries south of our border to send us the worst criminals they have, I firmly believe that the number of illegals here is much closer to 50 million.

In the 70’s, in So Calif, the common acceptance of illegals then was 20 million. No politicians challenged that number. Most were thought to be in Calif, Ariz, N Mex, and Texas. They have gotten bolder since those years & have moved into northern, colder climates in the USA.

When you take their higher birth rate & statistics that show that 99% of the babies born in County General hospitals in those states were born to illegal mothers, and those ‘babies’ born in the 70’s & 80’s are now producing babies of their own, you can see a 50 million number.

When Obama campaigned for the White House in 2006-7-8, he used the number of 20 million.

Now—5 years later, he calls such number 11 million.

Where did those 9 million missing illegals go? Even using HIS numbers, it doesn’t add up. They didn’t go back. There hasn’t been a massive die off of illegals. They didn’t contract a disease of any kind that only applied to them. They haven’t stopped procreating, either. That shrinkage doesn’t make sense.

The statement about ‘employers want these workers’ isn’t sensible, either.

What employer would want to hire someone who cannot speak English, cannot read or write such at a level needed for the job, and doesn’t have the work ethic America has?

IF all these fine specimens of worker are so valuable, their own countries would NOT want them to leave for any reason, and they would be already far more successful in their own country, where they are not facing the daunting effects of not even being conversant in the language.

Watch your auto insurance go up and up with more people ‘driving’ who cannot read the street & highway signs.

The employers don’t want another class of uneducated & unskilled workers. The Liberals & Democrats want a new batch of people they think they can push into voting for more Democrats.

Telling us that they can come here legally, but NOT vote won’t wash, either.

We are being incrementally invaded & the fools in the White House & media think this is just a wonderful idea.

We already have a staggering number of American UNEMPLOYED & UNDEREMPLOYED people. Open the doors further to illegals, and then you are paying out government benefits to another large number of people.

Let them build up their own country. We don’t need millions of unskilled people giving those who do work here another level of burden.


32 posted on 01/30/2014 4:40:22 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: cherokee1

No less a genius than Bill Gates whines and bellyaches about how he needs more techies.”””

I’ll bet a prime rib dinner that the illegals that Sheriff Joe Arpiao is picking up each & every day are not illegals that Bill Gates would hire to mow his lawn.

Trying to tell America that these illegals are high tech workers is just a plain lie.


33 posted on 01/30/2014 4:44:52 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Cowboy Bob; Paladin2; GeronL

The problem is not just border enforcement. That is important but even worse is the 1.3 million legal immigrants allowed by the Senate and probably Boner’s bill. These will mostly come from Mexico and Latin America totally screwing low income Americans looking for a job.

There will also be engineers from India and China. A little known fact that I am acutely aware of is that there is rampant age discrimination in engineering. Employers prefer an engineer a few years out of school because they cost less and the employers think, wrongly, that they are just as good as someone with more experience.

In any case, over 30 years that is over 30 million new immigrants that do not share our culture but come from much more leftist backgrounds.


34 posted on 01/30/2014 8:01:39 AM PST by fifedom
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To: fifedom

That is 1.3 million PER YEAR allowed in by the Senate bill.


35 posted on 01/30/2014 8:03:20 AM PST by fifedom
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To: RugerMini14

It’s all about the cash, worthless as it may actually be in the future.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 10:05:56 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: fifedom

Immigration means a lot to KY people and their McC too.


37 posted on 01/30/2014 10:06:19 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: RugerMini14
I will never vote R again.

Would you sit out Cornball and George P. if you were in TX?

38 posted on 01/30/2014 10:07:59 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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To: jimbo123
But several members of the influential Republican Study Committee say a consensus is growing that bringing immigration to the floor this year is a bad idea and could seriously hurt the party in an otherwise positive looking year.

You don't say?

39 posted on 01/30/2014 10:33:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jimbo123

Is there contact info on chamber of commerce?

Are people turning in their membership cards?

I rejected a solicitation for membership due to their imigration amnesty a short while ago during a membership drive.


40 posted on 01/30/2014 2:21:48 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: skeeter

we have to make it loud and start calling their switchboards.

not only to congress but to

RNC headquarters.

chamber of commerce headquarters.


41 posted on 01/30/2014 2:23:39 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: jimbo123

Time to destroy the GOP/whig Party and start a NEW PARTY...IT TOOK THE REPUBLICANS JUST 4 YEARS FROM THEIR FIRST CONVENTION in 1856 TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY......because the people of America saw that the Whigs didn’t have the courage to stand up for their beliefs, just like the republicans today! It is time for the Tea Party to remember 1856 AND THE REPUBLICANS TOO!


42 posted on 02/06/2014 8:40:52 AM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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