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Pelosi: Dems will insist on citizenship
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Posted on 01/29/2014 1:34:37 PM PST by Sub-Driver

January 29, 2014, 04:00 pm Pelosi: Dems will insist on citizenship

By Mike Lillis House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Wednesday amplified the Democrats' insistence that an immigration reform package include a pathway to citizenship for the nation's illegal immigrants.

Some GOP leaders have embraced the notion of providing legal status to those residents, but Pelosi said such a strategy doesn't go far enough for House Democrats.

"In our caucus, there has to be a path to citizenship," she told reporters in the Capitol. "To talk about legalization is to say that America is not the country we think we are.

"They wouldn't even be second-class citizens, because they wouldn't be citizens. They'd be second-class residents of our country. I just can't subscribe to that, and that's not where our caucus is."

The comments arrived the same day Republicans left Washington for an issues conference in Maryland, where they'll unveil much-anticipated immigration reform principles to a conference that's sharply split on the issue.

GOP leaders appear eager to move legislation, if only to take away a stark political advantage enjoyed by Democrats when it comes to the Hispanic vote. But they face intense pressure from conservatives to oppose anything other than the deportation of those living in the country illegally.

Indeed, Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) warned Tuesday a push for legalization by GOP leaders would play right into the hand of Democrats, who want citizenship.

"If we decide we're going to bring legalization status but no path to citizenship … immediately the clamor starts for full citizenship from Democrats. Immediately, they try to polarize people on the basis of race and ethnicity and national origin," King said. "Politically it would be a huge mistake. You could never start down the path to legalization without citizenship and stop there."

Pelosi, for her part, characterized the GOP principles as "a good faith effort to find common ground."

"We look forward to seeing what they are," she said. "I'm assured by the Speaker that they will be good and … acceptable to all of us, and I hope that is the case."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dummycraps; fullcitizenship; illegals

1 posted on 01/29/2014 1:34:37 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

And free Obamacare for them!


2 posted on 01/29/2014 1:35:03 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Dems will insist on citizenship... and that right quick!


3 posted on 01/29/2014 1:36:02 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Sub-Driver

What’s so special about being a citizen anymore? Its probably more advantageous to be an illegal. I’m only beinbg slightly facetious.


4 posted on 01/29/2014 1:37:36 PM PST by Starboard
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To: Pearls Before Swine

How about I insist that she drop dead.


5 posted on 01/29/2014 1:37:57 PM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Sub-Driver

>Dems will insist on citizenship for illegals.

How criminal can these morons get? The democrat party has lost its mind.

Any Republican voting for this idiocy should be deported to mexico.


6 posted on 01/29/2014 1:40:10 PM PST by soycd
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Quick, alert Boehner. /s


7 posted on 01/29/2014 1:40:14 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Sub-Driver

Democrats operate from a playbook entitled “How To Negotiate With A Stupid Chump.”


8 posted on 01/29/2014 1:40:50 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Sub-Driver

But of course they will.

Dems don’t give a rats arse about these people as individuals, or what happens to them. Only that they can be registered as new Democrat voters.

They’d rather scuttle the whole thing than allow them to have some secure, legal status shy of voting. Really showing their true hand here.


9 posted on 01/29/2014 1:41:15 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

No, Nancy. You’ve done enough damage with it already.


10 posted on 01/29/2014 1:41:39 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Sub-Driver

11 posted on 01/29/2014 1:41:49 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Sub-Driver

“Pelosi: Dems will insist on citizenship”

And I say no to citizenship for dems. /s


12 posted on 01/29/2014 1:42:02 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Sub-Driver

Ms. Pelousy...the expressed desire of your caucus for a “path to citizenship” for these illegal aliens does not, in and of itself, constitute a compelling case for it.


13 posted on 01/29/2014 1:42:13 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: lowbridge

I am glad to see the Dems finally insisting on citizenship to vote. No wait...


14 posted on 01/29/2014 1:44:14 PM PST by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: Starboard

A Limbaugh caller in the Texas badlands said the illegals he knows don’t want to be citizens and don’t want to pay taxes.

The current illegals are scared to death of another wave of illegals undercutting them.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/06/28/what_if_illegals_don_t_want_to_come_out_of_the_shadows

Some Republican walks in to Rubio and says, “Hey, you know what? We may have a problem here.”

“Yeah? What’s that?”

“A lot of the illegals here don’t want amnesty and they don’t want it for anybody not yet here in the country.”


15 posted on 01/29/2014 1:44:20 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: Sub-Driver
The ancient one is out showing off her lobotomy again. I have never seen anyone so proud of being stupid.
16 posted on 01/29/2014 1:45:14 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Sub-Driver

Yes - I would also insist that our President be a citizen of the United States. Go find us one.


17 posted on 01/29/2014 1:47:07 PM PST by alancarp
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To: lowbridge

Can we trade them with existing Dims one for one? Surely some lib would be willing to give up their membership to a club they think is unfair, right?


18 posted on 01/29/2014 1:48:18 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver
And most of the pubbies will cave and be complicit in the final destruction of America!

Oh YES, Mr. Obama, since the country isn't going down the crapper fast enough, let us help you add 11 to 20 MILLION new DemonRAT voters to the rolls. Thank you, sir, may we have another?

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19 posted on 01/29/2014 1:48:42 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

GOP will cave and Illegal Aliens will get citizenship


20 posted on 01/29/2014 1:48:43 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Sub-Driver
Republicans giving anything to invaders except a one-way (for good) ticket home could easily cost them an HOR majority after November. The RINO ptb are spending too much time cozying up with the Chamber of Commerce to even have a clue about how strongly constitutional conservatives feel about this issue.

The ONLY chance we have of saving the US is getting the invaders out of the US, and keeping them and other unnecessary foreign labor out of the US.

21 posted on 01/29/2014 1:51:02 PM PST by grania
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To: Sub-Driver

What the Democrats won’t get in legislation will be instituted by Obama via non-enforcement of provisions they don’t like. What isn’t achieved by THAT will be forced upon America by cherry picked federal judges.

This is why Republicans ought to avoid any immigration laws other than requiring the executive branch to ENFORCE EXISTING ONES!


22 posted on 01/29/2014 1:51:29 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver
Pigosi would accept no path to citizenship as long as they got the right to vote.

That's all it's about anyway.

23 posted on 01/29/2014 1:51:57 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Or alternatively, I think Mark Levin is correct that the courts will never allow such a two-tiered system to exist, and will grant them all citizenship ex-post facto.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 1:54:37 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

Even if they pass an amnesty bill that does not grant citizenship to the illegals 0bama’s judges will declare them to be citizens in time for the next election.


25 posted on 01/29/2014 1:55:04 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Sub-Driver
And that's what "immigration reform" is really all about. Giving citizenship to 30 million undocumented Democrats.

And this is what all Tea Party people understood from the get go. Why Bohner, Cantor, Prebuis, Ryan, et. al. don't address this is mind numbingly shocking.

26 posted on 01/29/2014 1:55:08 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Pelosi said such a strategy doesn’t go far enough for House Democrats.

The only way Nanzi would be happy was if they were all
maded Honorary Democrats and given EBT/pasports.

Class warfare, is all she’s got?
No nanzi they aren’t second class citizens.
They aren’t CITIZENS at ALL.


27 posted on 01/29/2014 1:56:46 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

and the GOPe will cave


28 posted on 01/29/2014 1:57:35 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: All
FACTS ON FILE---The Senate Immigration "Reform" Bill
Protects corrupt Latino Public Officials from US laws and from prosecution.

Vote-crazed Dems' amnesty law absolves elected/appointed latinos holding US public office from prosecution for wrongdoing---for crimes like government fraud, graft, bribery, selling votes for cash....(the usual politician crimes).

There really is a Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials organized for govt fraud.

NANCY SUCKS UP at Ntl Assoc of Latino Elected and Appt Officials Gala in DC
L-R--Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ);
Dr Salomon Melgen (under scrutiny for corrupt deals w/ Sen Menendez);
Rep Nancy Pelosi (Dimwit-CAL); Francisco
J. Sanchez, US Under Secy of Commerce for Intl Trade,
Emilio Sanchez, Pres/CEO of VOXXI
(Photo/ Voxxi---Dr Melgen's latino solidarity web site)

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DOMINICAN REPUBLIC STRANGLEHOLD ON US POLITICS ---the DR is a Caribbean nation notorious for corrupt governments. US politicians' frequent the DR "amenities" at its posh resorts; rock stars and celebrities relax at luxe villas spending big bucks there.

NJ Sen Menendez and Floridian eye surgeon Dr Melgen (a DR native) are under scrutiny for shady deals worth billions. Menendez intervened in inquiries WRT Melgen's shady billing of Medicare.

===================================================

Recent travel brochures report that the DR has no safety net or state-sponsored job creation for its largely impoverished citizenry.

THIRD WORLD MONEY LAUNDERING IN AMERICA The one million Dominican citizens currently living illegally in the US send home about a billion US dollars annually---which is considered by the corrupt do-nothing DR govt to be a major source of state revenue. A steady exodus leaves for US shores lured by the endless US gravy train. Money laundering is rampant in the form of Dominican here on food stamps/welfare. etc, laundering EBT cards through corrupt grocers--- where cash is handed out from EBT cards, then sent to the DR.

THE MODUS OPERANDI (1) using multiple identities, and, (2) falsifying official Govt documents. The scam consists of getting US food stamps (which they apparently do not need), using EBT cards, and shipping EBT food to the Third World---not to feed the hungry--- the food taxpayers are subsidizing is sold in the DR for profit.

===============================================

NY POST EXCLUSIVE REPORT New York food stamp recipients ship welfare-funded groceries to Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Haiti....and so on. Tax-subsidized food stamps are paying to buy and ship food to Jamaica, Haiti and the Dominican Republic....where the food is sold for profit.

A spokeswoman for the US Dept of Agriculture’s Food and Nutrition Service said the $86 BILLION welfare program is reserved for poor US households that buy and prepare food. "States should intervene if people are caught shipping non- perishables abroad", she said.

A senior fellow at the Cato Institute called it another example of welfare abuse. “The purpose of this program is to help Americans who don’t have enough to eat. This is not intended as a form of foreign aid.” As an example, US taxpayers spent $522.7 million on foreign aid to the Caribbean last fiscal year, govt data show.

HERE'S HOW The "needy connivers" buy barrels available in supermarkets in latino enclaves---then ship them filled with $500 to $2,000 worth of EBT-paid groceries to Third World---where the groceries are sold for cash.

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PEW REPORT The US is the most important source of remittances to Latin America, accounting for 3/4's of last year's $52.9 billion total. -- wire transfers of US tax dollars accounted for the highest percentage of GDP in El Salvador (16.5%), Honduras (15.7%) and Guatemala 10%).-- The US is No. 1 nation from which illegals' wire transfers originate, sending $123.3 billion abroad in 2012.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID Amazing how much discretionary income low-wage illegals send back home....illegals barely eking out an existence on sub-minimum wages, in jobs like lawn-mowing and hamburger flipping have money to burn.

INCONVENIENT FACTOID A latino woman residing in California, who spoke not a word of English, had a $100,000 nest egg and lived in a paid-up $100,000 home. She was on TV b/c she lost the nest egg to a father/son con game. The conmen were also latinos who got filthy rich preying on non-English speaking latinos, supposedly in low-paying jobs, who had thousands of dollars to invest.

29 posted on 01/29/2014 1:58:30 PM PST by Liz
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To: Sub-Driver
--"If we decide we're going to bring legalization status but no path to citizenship … immediately the clamor starts for full citizenship from Democrats."

No doubt the rats also have compliant federal judges lined-up to declare as lawful whatever Pelosi and her pals desire.

30 posted on 01/29/2014 1:58:30 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Well hell. What they should ask for in the bill is the removal of all elections from now on. Obama gets to appoint all Congressmen and Senators. Plus, they can demand that Obama can stay President until he wants to leave office.

I mean, that's only fair, right?

31 posted on 01/29/2014 2:03:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Starboard
My grandparents never became citizens. It is not mandatory to living here and never has been.

It is for certain things...like holding public office....AND VOTING.

Wonder what the Dems are up to??? ;-)

32 posted on 01/29/2014 2:06:45 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Mr. K

33 posted on 01/29/2014 2:31:59 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: Paine in the Neck

The RINO Express is delivering to the Democrats


34 posted on 01/29/2014 2:33:05 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s revoke Pelosi’s citizenship.

She has shallow roots in this country. If we had known what she was going to do, would we have let her grandparents in?

Clearly her loyalty is not to the Americans. Time for her to move back to Italy where her true allegiances are.

She can visit Spain, it’s really close. Talk Spanish all she wants.


35 posted on 01/29/2014 2:48:41 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Sub-Driver

The correct GOP response to Pelosi:
“You have no power here! Begone, before somebody drops a house on you, too!”


36 posted on 01/29/2014 3:01:27 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Sub-Driver
They'd be second-class residents of our country.

Hey, DINGBAT Pelosi, we already have those, why not have more? Immigrants who come to America, but only to work, temporarily, with the full intent to return to their home country when their permanent residence fails or they make enough money, or whatever.

These people do not WANT to be Americans, they want to turn America into the hellholes from which they came. The answer to that is to force these people to come through the front door, assimilate and move-on. Otherwise, go home! PERIOD!
37 posted on 01/29/2014 3:09:05 PM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who cares what she insist, people in hell want ice water also


38 posted on 01/29/2014 3:18:53 PM PST by italianquaker
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To: grania
The RINO ptb are spending too much time cozying up with the Chamber of Commerce to even have a clue

The Chamber of Commerce has lots of money. We have lots of votes.

We will find out really soon which the GOP-e values more.

Unfortunately, I think we already know the answer...

39 posted on 01/29/2014 3:31:32 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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