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This Is Rand Paul's Moment
National Journal ^ | 1-29-14 | Matt Berman

Posted on 01/29/2014 2:02:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat

The United States is having a libertarian moment. And Rand Paul is getting ready to capture it by himself.

The Kentucky Republican delivered his own response to President Obama's State of the Union on Tuesday night via YouTube. But the rebuttal wasn't so much about what Obama said Tuesday as much as it was an opening salvo for a possible 2016 presidential campaign, the bulk of it coming as a directed argument against big government.

"Government doesn't create jobs very well," Paul said. "Government is inherently bad at picking winners and losers ... if government is to send money to certain people to create businesses, they will more often than not pick the wrong people, and no jobs will be created." He pointed specifically to the old big government bogeyman, Solyndra.

"It's not that government's inherently stupid, although it's a debatable point," Paul said. "It's that government doesn't get the same signals."

Paul's Tuesday speech wasn't sponsored by the GOP (that honor went to Cathy McMorris Rogers) or the tea party (that was Sen. Mike Lee's job). The personalized setup provided for a much more visually appealing delivery, complete with controlled lighting and a lectern. A year after giving the official tea-party response, Paul has struck out on his own.

The move makes sense. A Tuesday NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that twice as many Americans feel negatively about the Republican Party than feel positively. As a politician, why tie yourself to that standard when you can use your own, already-mobilized base to go it alone, at least before primary season really kicks up?

And there's plenty reason to think Paul is perfectly placed to capture a slice of the current American agita. Consider this: What's the greatest, most existential threat to the United States—big business, big labor, or big government? In December, a record 72 percent said big government in a Gallup Poll, blowing past business (21 percent) and labor (5 percent). The majorities hold despite politics, but 92 percent of self-identified Republicans cite big government as the biggest threat to the future of America.

Think of Rand Paul as the anti-Bill de Blasio. In his Tuesday speech, Paul slammed the "politics of envy" and suggested that if you "punish" the successful, their companies will flee overseas. He pushed a somewhat anti-welfare message, highlighting the story of the antigay, fringey Star Parker, who says she once used her welfare money on drugs before turning her life around. While New Yorkers are highly optimistic about de Blasio just a few weeks into his liberal mayoralty, Paul's taking the bet that what flies in New York won't fly in the country overall. Again, there's a political logic here: While 67 percent of Democrats say government should do "a lot" to reduce poverty, only 27 percent of Republicans agree.

By all accounts, Paul is gunning for the top spot. In his Tuesday night response, Paul made policy proposals of his own, including those for economic freedom aones that would be set up around the U.S. and have, among other things, a flat 5 percent income and business tax. "I believe in an America where people are free to make their own decisions," he said.

And earlier in the day, he took digs at the possible competition. At Tuesday's State of the Net conference in D.C., Paul bashed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as a "big proponent of the surveillance state," and suggested that a libertarian-leaning Republican candidate in 2016 could "completely transform where people think they are and what party people think they have allegiance for."

It's an early 2016 campaign shot, and it's not off base, either. Government was mentioned as the most important problem in the U.S. across all party IDs in a recent Gallup Poll, cited by 18 percent of Democrats. A whopping 65 percent of Americans say they're dissatisfied with the U.S. system of government and its effectiveness. However, many of the people who are upset over current government effectiveness are also surely no fans of the filibustering Paul.

Paul's speech was broadcast online instead of aired on national television, and it's not the sort of thing that's going to change the senator's fate on its own. But this independently run, radically small-government message is just another stake Paul is laying on a seemingly inevitable path toward a presidential campaign. Combine this with his impressive on-the-ground infrastructure and organization, and he's quickly becoming a major force for 2016.

Link to the speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E6YMdgGUY4&feature=youtu.be


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1 posted on 01/29/2014 2:02:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat

Unless Paul has a PLAN to bring 12,000,000 jobs to the USA, he is just blowing in the wind.


2 posted on 01/29/2014 2:07:26 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: RKBA Democrat
The United States is having a libertarian moment.

Wanting a smaller more responsible government is not about libertarianism. Its a principle that covers the entire right.

Personally I prefer Ted Cruz but after him I would vote for Paul over just about any name that comes up. (And I'm not going to get pulled into any arguments over which is better)
3 posted on 01/29/2014 2:08:38 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
A year after giving the official tea-party response, Paul has struck out on his own.

That's getting more obvious with each passing day. Which country is he now running for president, Mexico or Guatemala?

4 posted on 01/29/2014 2:10:08 PM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: cripplecreek

I won’t vote for Paul, but I want very much to vote for Cruz!


5 posted on 01/29/2014 2:10:27 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ex-snook

Impossible to do without stifling regulations and crippling a free market


6 posted on 01/29/2014 2:10:55 PM PST by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: ex-snook

“Unless Paul has a PLAN to bring 12,000,000 jobs to the USA, he is just blowing in the wind.”

I think he highlighted his plan pretty well: economic freedom zones will help.

I would be happy with Ted Cruz or Rand Paul. But I happen to think that Rand Paul is better positioned to win should he choose to run.


7 posted on 01/29/2014 2:14:06 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The whole country should be a freedom zone


8 posted on 01/29/2014 2:15:38 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: cripplecreek

But not everyone on the right is consistent about wanting a more responsible government. Unfortunately, when it comes to consistency in wanting a more responsible gov’t, right now small l libertarians have the market cornered. Those on the right can still work to completely change this, will they?


9 posted on 01/29/2014 2:17:17 PM PST by freedom462
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To: RKBA Democrat

I’d be willing to vote for either Rand Paul or Ted Cruz; would partly depend upon who’s running against them.


10 posted on 01/29/2014 2:17:40 PM PST by pbmaltzman
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To: freedom462

Too bad those libertarians aren’t bright enough to know how much they harm themselves every stinking time trying to grab the credit.


11 posted on 01/29/2014 2:21:30 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Paul is a amnesty supporter. While he was running for Senate he actually brought up doing away with birthright citizenship. He changed his tune pretty quickly.


12 posted on 01/29/2014 2:22:02 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: GeronL

“The whole country should be a freedom zone.”

Agreed. But I’ll take what I can get. Let’s not let the perfect be the enemy of the pretty good.


13 posted on 01/29/2014 2:25:56 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Funny thing that. Paul is proclaiming about the same as Reagan did. And yet we have those on here that claim they will not vote for him. I wonder if they did not vote for Reagan? Most likely many were not even alive back then. I for one, remember Reagan way back in the 60s. He was said to be a radical. Well then if proclaiming a road to liberty is radical, then Paul should make the most of it, like Reagan did.


14 posted on 01/29/2014 2:26:37 PM PST by crz
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To: RKBA Democrat; SunkenCiv

I ain’t voting for pro-amnesty Rand Paul with his libertopian lean under any circumstances. His plan is stupid, dividing up the country into zones. I believe that laws, taxes and regulations should apply equally to all, the federal government has no business playing favorites.


15 posted on 01/29/2014 2:28:25 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Abolishing equal protection under law is not “pretty good”


16 posted on 01/29/2014 2:30:16 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Theoria

“Paul is a amnesty supporter. While he was running for Senate he actually brought up doing away with birthright citizenship. He changed his tune pretty quickly.”

I think we’re getting shamnesty regardless. For Paul it’s consistent with his political philosophy. I don’t agree with all of what he says, but if what we’re facing is the likely choice between him, piaps, and jabba....


17 posted on 01/29/2014 2:31:14 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: GeronL

“Abolishing equal protection under law is not “pretty good”

I don’t see it in those terms. The US has established enterprise zones in places. This takes it a step further. The places where this would apply to I believe are extremely impoverished or really horrible. South central L.A. for example. And you would have to live there to take advantage of it. Would you move to south central to take advantage of something like this? I sure wouldn’t.


18 posted on 01/29/2014 2:40:20 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

why should downtown LA get better treatment than a place that is not a hell hole?


19 posted on 01/29/2014 2:48:13 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Since Rand Paul endorsed Mitch McConnell, the GOP-E candidate for Senator in Kentucky over the Tea-Party candidate Matt Bevin, I no longer trust him.

Factor in his own Amnesty plan, and this guy can’t be trusted.


20 posted on 01/29/2014 2:51:02 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Theoria
That you didn't understand the difference between A VASTLY DEEPER AND HORRENDOUSly VICIOUS EVIL, and a RINO squish is inconceivably stupid.

Why leave Ted Cruz out of the mix and leave Rand Paul in the mix?
21 posted on 01/29/2014 2:52:08 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RKBA Democrat; Theoria
That you didn't understand the difference between A VASTLY DEEPER AND HORRENDOUSly VICIOUS EVIL, and a RINO squish is inconceivably stupid.

Why leave Ted Cruz out of the mix and leave Rand Paul in the mix?
22 posted on 01/29/2014 2:55:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Paul has an appeal to younger voters that Cruz simply does not have, and his issue of privacy/snooping really resonates with them.


23 posted on 01/29/2014 2:56:26 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: RKBA Democrat

If he’s the nominee I’ll vote for him, but I would prefer Cruz.


24 posted on 01/29/2014 2:57:05 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RKBA Democrat; flaglady47
I'm from Realville.

Ideology aside, the very astute Rand Paul is too twerpy-looking to make it out of the primaries....so everyone shouldn't agonize too much one way or the other about his presidential prospects.

Leni

25 posted on 01/29/2014 2:57:27 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Theoria

Rand and Rubio flip flopped on the Arizona law during the campaign.


26 posted on 01/29/2014 2:58:32 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: RKBA Democrat
I don’t see it in those terms. The US has established enterprise zones in places. This takes it a step further. The places where this would apply to I believe are extremely impoverished or really horrible. South central L.A. for example. And you would have to live there to take advantage of it. Would you move to south central to take advantage of something like this? I sure wouldn’t.

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Imho, thinking that other people have the same way of reasoning that you do is dangerous.

27 posted on 01/29/2014 2:59:25 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Rand flipped. Rubio has always been a fan.

I'm wary of the R's.

28 posted on 01/29/2014 2:59:52 PM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: SoConPubbie

he is manuvering for the “runner up post” ala mccain/dole to run against clinton and lose.


29 posted on 01/29/2014 3:01:06 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SoConPubbie

Any normal person who supports amnesty knows it harms this country.


30 posted on 01/29/2014 3:02:39 PM PST by Dante3
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To: cripplecreek
Personally I prefer Ted Cruz but after him I would vote for Paul over just about any name that comes up.

Pretty much where I am. I'm done with party labels benig used to divide the electorate, but also I believe the nominee from the right of the spectrum has to run on something. Just running against the left isn't going to win. Cruz and Rand both have a message to run on. IMO.

31 posted on 01/29/2014 3:05:48 PM PST by IamConservative (There is no place like 127.0.0.1)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“...I would be happy with Ted Cruz or Rand Paul...”

Same here.

“...But I happen to think that Rand Paul is better positioned to win should he choose to run...”

He needs to start doing major face-time and getting his words out at every opportunity. Shadow every Dem that gets in front of a microphone and camera and make them explain their votes, remarks, positions, etc., so he can present an immediate contrast.


32 posted on 01/29/2014 3:08:11 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: trisham
If he’s the nominee I’ll vote for him, but I would prefer Cruz.

Mega dittos.

33 posted on 01/29/2014 3:13:04 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: IamConservative

I think both of them on the same ticket would be near unbeatable.


34 posted on 01/29/2014 3:14:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sirius Lee

:)


35 posted on 01/29/2014 3:22:50 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Go Rand Go!


36 posted on 01/29/2014 3:24:27 PM PST by BlueCat
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To: GeronL

“why should downtown LA get better treatment than a place that is not a hell hole?”

Why shouldn’t it? The government offers all sorts of tax incentives for various behavior. This is relatively innocuous and easy to take advantage of if you’re so inclined: live and work in a domestic hellhole and you get a better tax rate. It’s not a tax break limited solely to the politician’s cronies.

Reminds me of how combat pay is not taxed. Or how there is a credit for overseas earned income.

While I personally disagree with the income tax hard stop, this is a step in the right direction. And frankly would show how America could prosper with a much lower income tax or so much regulation.

Again, the perfect should not be the enemy of the very good. We aren’t going to get all we want or even a majority of what we want at one time. The statists have used incrementalism over time to screw us over. Time to put the shoe on the other foot.


37 posted on 01/29/2014 3:45:45 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

It is Statism. Is that not “nannyism” people are always complaining about?

Lower taxes and regulations everywhere or nowhere. period.


38 posted on 01/29/2014 3:46:53 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Regardless of your views on Paul, he's done an impressive job in uniting the libertarian-conservative coalition and has made his old man proud.

Paul would be a perfect compliment as a VP selection.

39 posted on 01/29/2014 3:47:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (15 years of FReeping! Congratulations EEE!!)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I don’t see anything “very good” about Paul


40 posted on 01/29/2014 3:47:48 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL

“I ain’t voting for pro-amnesty Rand Paul with his libertopian lean under any circumstances.”

Your call of course. I’m currently trying to get over my voting addiction, so I doubt I’ll be voting at all. I think that it’ll come down to piaps or jabba anyway so I’m not going to get my blood pressure up over it.

“His plan is stupid, dividing up the country into zones.”

How is that any different from what we have right now? Why should someone who is living in NH or TN pay 5.75% less in income taxes than I do? We’re already split into 50 zones.

“I believe that laws, taxes and regulations should apply equally to all, the federal government has no business playing favorites.”

Agreed. But that’s also a utopian view that we are unlikely to see in our lifetimes.


41 posted on 01/29/2014 3:53:14 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Rand is waste of time in any Prez bid.

Libertarian is NOT the answer.


42 posted on 01/29/2014 3:55:13 PM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

BUT.. We could create a new cabinet position for him.

How about.. the official “disabler”

His sole job would be to disable large sections of the Federal Government.


43 posted on 01/29/2014 3:56:39 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: crz

“Funny thing that. Paul is proclaiming about the same as Reagan did. And yet we have those on here that claim they will not vote for him.”

FReepers are not representative of the electorate as a whole. The electorate is far more liberal and somewhat more libertarian than most FReepers.

The candidate that wins in 2016 is very unlikely to be a social conservative. You might get lucky and get an economic conservative on some issues (like Reagan) but that’s about all you’re going to get.

I like Ted Cruz a lot and all things being equal, he would be my preference after Sarah Palin. I just question his electability in the general election. Electability should not be the primary consideration in looking at a candidate, but it still is a consideration. Rand Paul is not as conservative as I would like, but he crosses my “good enough” threshold and I think is more electable.


44 posted on 01/29/2014 4:04:55 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Why leave Ted Cruz out of the mix and leave Rand Paul in the mix?”

Oversight on my part. You might also ask why I forgot to mention Sarah Palin as well who is far and away my first choice.


45 posted on 01/29/2014 4:07:44 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: MinuteGal

“I’m from Realville.”

I am as well. And I don’t think that Sarah Palin or Ted Cruz are going to be the nominee. Most likely it’ll be jabba.

“Ideology aside, the very astute Rand Paul is too twerpy-looking to make it out of the primaries....so everyone shouldn’t agonize too much one way or the other about his presidential prospects.”

Me? Agonize? I doubt I’ll even vote. It’ll be a real test, though, if Sarah or Ted should run.


46 posted on 01/29/2014 4:11:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: trisham

“Imho, thinking that other people have the same way of reasoning that you do is dangerous.”

I hope they don’t. It wouldn’t upset me at all if hordes of people packed into eastern Kentucky or south central or Detroit to start businesses and take advantage of a great tax structure and easy regulatory environment. The idea is that once it’s shown to be successful, it would expand.

It just isn’t for me.


47 posted on 01/29/2014 4:13:39 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: immadashell

Which country is he now running for president, Mexico or Guatemala?

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Good point.


48 posted on 01/29/2014 4:17:51 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I would also hope that would happen, but years of disappointment are not easily allayed.


49 posted on 01/29/2014 4:19:20 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Since Rand Paul endorsed Mitch McConnell, the GOP-E candidate for Senator in Kentucky over the Tea-Party candidate Matt Bevin, I no longer trust him.

Factor in his own Amnesty plan, and this guy can’t be trusted.

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Yep, Ramnesty Paul can take a hike.


50 posted on 01/29/2014 4:20:37 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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