Posted on 01/29/2014 7:52:13 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
redesigned bow concept
I like the missile canister. Sort of a sub-sized version of the “Hornet’s Nest” insert.
One complaint that is really a pet peeve. Why can’t the Navy have a consistent naming policy for their vessels anymore? Subs have gone from fish names to cities to states, with politicians thrown in for the sake of ego. Surface ships are even worse. Ships in the same class can be named after people, places, and things, and name categories are spread over many different ships of completely different classes and missions. The system they had in place has been largely abandoned, so now you don’t know what a vessel is based on the name. And why do politicians like Stennis and Vinson rate carriers, while carrier admirals like Halsey and Spruance get destroyers?
Lemme guess. It has an all-female crew right??
Were it not for Rumsfeld, we wouldn’t see these til 2030 or so; he directed the skipping of a generation of a lot of military equipment.
Roll on EB.
Polotics.
Negative.
Virgina Class has been around since Seawolf was botched.
The same reason there will be a USS Obama some day.
Pure politics.
Sturgeon class and earlier class subs were named after fish.
The Sea Wolf class was to take on that tradition, but there were technical problems.
The Los Angeles class filled the void.
Then came the Virginia class.
Some boat designs don’t make it.
Thresher and Scorpion were prime examples. Although considered Skipjack Class they were not like the others.
Many boats are experimental.
The Narwhal was a one off boat.
I particularly remember Narwhal as an odd bird.
Only one built.
It was a good boat but it was not a true Sturgeon class.
Bouncing Billy Bates had a twist but was based on the sturgeon class design.
USS William H. Bates (SSN-680), a Sturgeon-class attack submarine, was planned to be the second U.S. Navy ship to be named USS Redfish — for the redfish, a variety of salmon also called blueback, sawqui, red salmon, and nerka — when the contract to build her was awarded to Ingalls Shipbuilding in Pascagoula, Mississippi, on 25 June 1968. However, upon the 22 June 1969 death of William H. Bates (19171969), the U.S. Representative from Massachusetts’s 6th Congressional District (19501969) known for his staunch support of nuclear propulsion in the U.S. Navy, she was renamed William H. Bates and was laid down on 4 August 1969 as the only ship of the U.S. Navy to have borne the name. The reason for her naming by then-Secretary of the Navy John Chafee, breaking with a long-standing Navy tradition of naming U.S. Navy attack submarines for sea creatures, was best summed up by Admiral Hyman Rickover, the then-director of the Navy’s nuclear reactors program, with the pithy comment that, “Fish don’t vote!”[1]
Bates was a great Boat BTW, plank owner and loved my time onboard.
I was a surface sonarman on DLG-34. Got an invite to ride the Finback (SSN-670) for a week. The sonar crew humored me and let me ping until we crossed the Hampton Roads tunnel, leaving Norfolk.
“It has an all-female crew right??”
The Virginia-Class Block III will be the first unmanned attack submarine.
I can sort of understand why the Navy did it...he's a Canoe U grad, and commanded a sub...
IIRC..the Navy first first messed up its naming policy with the USS Hyman G. Rickover. It's understandable why they wanted to honor him..but once you open the floodgates..
I'm really pissed about the Gerald Ford...no way he deserves that.
At least no Clinton or Obama..ever..
“...the Finback (SSN-670)....”
That’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. Sometime around 1977 we came up from Ft Bragg, boarded her and did a few days working off the coast.
Did the same with the Greenling a couple of years later.
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