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Obama pitches retirement savings options at U.S. Steel's Irvin Plant
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | January 29, 2014 | Mike Wereschagin

Posted on 01/30/2014 2:57:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

".......... After the tour and speech, he signed an executive order directing Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew to establish the savings bonds. Named and modeled after existing Individual Retirement Accounts or IRAs, the bonds offer tax benefits that regular savings accounts do not, don't lose value and can be withdrawn tax-free any time.

“It's safe. These balances will never go down in value,” Obama said.

Lew, whose agency will set up the bonds, accompanied the president, whose directive is one in a series of executive orders Obama said he's using to circumvent a divided Congress that's on pace to be the least productive in decades.

Obama said he hoped Congress would adjust the tax code to provide more incentives for people to save for retirement, but “I'm not going to wait for Congress.”

..........The MyRA offers an early example of Obama's limits. He wants to revamp the tax laws to give middle-class workers more motivation to invest, but he needs Congress to act on that.

The program Obama is establishing on his own doesn't offer the retirement security he desires, said Bob Fragasso, founder and CEO of Downtown firm Fragasso Financial Advisors.

“People will not retire successfully earning four, five, six percent interest,” he said.

MyRA could make a useful piece of a person's retirement plan, but if workers rely too heavily on the low-interest growth, it could undermine Obama's goal of offering more people a comfortable retirement, Fragasso said.

“Allowing people a false sense of security by peddling MyRAs does them a disservice,” Fragasso said.

Preparing for retirement security should begin in grade school, he said.....

(Excerpt) Read more at triblive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: executiveorder; ira; myra; obamamyra; obamasotu; obamasotutour; retirement; savingsbond
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To: Arthur McGowan

Amen!


21 posted on 01/30/2014 4:14:51 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Travis McGee

(Shudda used a picture without Pelosi in it!)


22 posted on 01/30/2014 4:16:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kearnyirish2

They have a phishing license to get you a fishing license.


23 posted on 01/30/2014 4:18:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Obama says it’s safe! The government will never grab your money!

If you like your life savings, you can keep your life savings.

I hope they keep the money in the same lockbox as our Social Security funds so it will be safe.

24 posted on 01/30/2014 4:19:17 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Graybeard58

I took that to mean the bonds are indexed to inflation.

Knowing that the inflation is at hand, as soon as the minimum wage is raised, they have cobbled up a debt instrument that will allow the owner to survive the devaluation of the face value.


25 posted on 01/30/2014 4:24:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
There were a few protesters outside the plant during his speech, but it was rather cold:


26 posted on 01/30/2014 4:24:28 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: almcbean
>> You need legislation to create these. He is just legislating by executive fiat,

THANK YOU!!! THAT is the real problem.

Yes, they're a bad investment. Yes, they're being pitched to people who likely won't buy them unless compelled. Yes, they're likely a first step toward stealing our real 401(k), 403(b) and IRA savings.

But worst of all, by far, is that Barry Benghazi DOES NOT HAVE THE AUGHORITY to create them. Hi is acting lawlessly and unconstitutionally. He has created himself God Emperor, and is daring anyone to call him out on it

Barack Hussein 0bama is a criminal and a tyrant and belongs in prison.

27 posted on 01/30/2014 4:27:25 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: All
Proverbs 23:31
Do not gaze at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, when it goes down smoothly!.

28 posted on 01/30/2014 4:30:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Can’t these same people currently walk into the nearest bank or brokerage and set up an IRA consisting of government bonds of the duration of their choice?

What does this program bring to the table that isn’t already there?


29 posted on 01/30/2014 4:40:42 AM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The sham-wow tour!


30 posted on 01/30/2014 4:43:26 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If you like your retirement fund...


31 posted on 01/30/2014 4:44:42 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

“What does this program bring to the table that isn’t already there?”

A vehicle to bail-in or force conversions into.


32 posted on 01/30/2014 4:46:56 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: The Working Man

Correct, it is the rollout “signature” legislation to the legislation from 2008.

Huge See, I Told You So from 2008: Democrats Try To Take Your 401(k)
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2010/11/01/huge_see_i_told_you_so_from_2008_democrats_try_to_take_your_401_k

Now, before you condition Alicia, let me refer to what she’s talking about. It’s Mark Hemingway in the Washington Examiner: “ Will the government outlaw your 401(k) plan? It seems like an absurd possibility, yet earlier this month two Democratic senators, Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., held a hearing on Capitol Hill exploring the possibility of doing exactly that. On Oct. 8, the two senators from the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee held a hearing on ‘Retirement (In)security in America.’ “Among the proposals discussed was ‘Guaranteed Retirement Accounts,’ or GRAs. The purpose of the GRA proposal is simple: To force Americans to stop putting their retirement savings money into private 401(k) accounts and send their money to the government instead.” Now, this has been in the works for a long time and I remember the first time I mentioned this on the program, Alicia, we were deluged with calls from Washington: “No, no, no! You totally misunderstand. Nobody in the Democrat Party is talking about eliminating 401(k)s,” and they are. ~~From 2010 Rush Limbaugh


33 posted on 01/30/2014 4:50:39 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Invest in government. phooey. Give workers a tax credit to invest in a private Roth. Give them another tax credit to save for their medical care that accumulates.


34 posted on 01/30/2014 4:50:45 AM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: All

Most people don’t have $5 to spare. If anyone had $5 that they could afford to set aside each month, they’d already be doing it.


35 posted on 01/30/2014 4:53:48 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Arthur McGowan

Say goodbye to your retirement funds as Obama takes them and Congress just stands there.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 4:55:40 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Yes...like Social Security was safe until LBJ looted it to pay for his war on poverty.
Only a dim wit would trust this plan.


37 posted on 01/30/2014 5:03:47 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Dusty Road
So has anybody said yet how much these so called bonds will pay?

They don't pay you silly, you just give your money to the Government; or else.

38 posted on 01/30/2014 5:10:07 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Dusty Road

I believe it will be 2% and then indexed to inflation. At least that was the plan in 2008 for the GRA’s.


39 posted on 01/30/2014 5:11:32 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When will this shamwow POS realize, people are not buying what he's so desperately trying to sell?

WE DO NOT WANT MANURE.

40 posted on 01/30/2014 5:12:58 AM PST by Lucky9teen (No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it. ~ Albert Einstein)
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