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Democrats: Cede the House to save the Senate
politico.com ^ | 1/30/14 | Alex Isenstadt

Posted on 01/30/2014 9:10:27 AM PST by cotton1706

With Democrats’ grasp on the Senate increasingly tenuous — and the House all but beyond reach — some top party donors and strategists are moving to do something in the midterm election as painful as it is coldblooded: Admit the House can’t be won and go all in to save the Senate.

Their calculation is uncomplicated. With only so much money to go around in an election year that is tilting the GOP’s way, Democrats need to concentrate resources on preserving the chamber they have now. Losing the Senate, they know, could doom whatever hopes Barack Obama has of salvaging the final years of his presidency. Continue Reading

The triage idea is taking hold in phone conversations among donors and in strategy sessions between party operatives. Even some of the people who have invested the most to get House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi back into the speaker’s chair are moving in that direction.

“There is no question that Democratic donors are shifting towards the Senate in 2014. They will continue to support Nancy, but everyone agrees that the emphasis is going to be on the Senate,” said Joe Cotchett, a prominent San Francisco trial attorney and friend of Pelosi’s who has donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic Party candidates and causes. “When you see people like [longtime California Democratic Rep.] George Miller announcing that they are not running again, you know where the money will be going.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2014; 2014issues; 2014midterms; bho44; elections; gingrich; hardball; house; newt; newtgingrich; pelosi; reid; senate
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They are desperate to keep Obama's shield. Obama and the senate have been guarding each other for five years to put and keep pressure on the republicans. They're always the obstructionists, they've been saying.

Yet, currently, Obama can say, "hey, the bill never got to me so I'm not responsible" and the senate can cay, "hey, Obama said he'd veto bill such and such so we're not going to even go through the motions of passing it"

But if the senate goes republican, then the only obstructionist will be Obama. And Obama must be guarded at all cost!

1 posted on 01/30/2014 9:10:27 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

See what shape the GOP is in after the GOP passes amnesty.


2 posted on 01/30/2014 9:15:38 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: cotton1706

“hey, Obama said he’d veto bill such and such so we’re not going to even go through the motions of passing it”

Back when the GOP knew how to play hardball, Clinton vetoed welfare reform 3 times before he signed it into law.


3 posted on 01/30/2014 9:16:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: cotton1706

China and Mexico love Obama&CO wonder how much money they will funnel to his party?.


4 posted on 01/30/2014 9:19:13 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Back when the GOP knew how to play hardball, Clinton vetoed welfare reform 3 times before he signed it into law.”

Well, the senate was also republican then. But Gingrich was Speaker, and kept forcing the issue on worthless Dole’s senate, who would have been very happy to have it go away.

Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy and the rest don’t have that kind of guts, because they’ve been intentionally maneuvered into their positions. Gingrich becoming minority whip was a fluke due to circumstances at the time and the establishment has since made sure that the whole track of leadership, from committee chairmen on down are toe the line types!


5 posted on 01/30/2014 9:20:48 AM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706
Not to worry. Boner and Co. will come through for them!

Courtesy of Drudge.

6 posted on 01/30/2014 9:21:06 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: cotton1706; writer33; Texas Fossil; RitaOK; laplata; Jane Long; Jim Robinson; kristinn; All

BRING IT !


7 posted on 01/30/2014 9:21:32 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: cotton1706

I’m pretty sure they will hold both with significant majorities.


8 posted on 01/30/2014 9:22:24 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706

“The triage idea is taking hold in phone conversations among donors and in strategy sessions between party operatives. Even some of the people who have invested the most to get House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi back into the speaker’s chair are moving in that direction.”

There is a silver lining here. Nazi will never be Speaker again, and that fact will maybe cause her to leave pubic office, or better still die!


9 posted on 01/30/2014 9:22:30 AM PST by vette6387
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To: cotton1706
They will do exactly as they did in the presidential election. That's my guess.

They will drill down into the numbers precinct by precinct. Determine just what they need to hold onto power. Find the polling areas where they can commit the most fraud unobstructed (not too hard with the GOP as an "opposition").

They will squeak out victory. 110% turn out for them in some areas, all votes going to them in some areas, blatant fraud reported...nary a peep from the other side.

10 posted on 01/30/2014 9:24:11 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: chris37
"I’m pretty sure they will hold both with significant majorities."

Who, the Republicans? Likely in the House, but I think the Senate will be real close. The larger the scale of the office up for election, the more voter fraud becomes effective.

11 posted on 01/30/2014 9:25:00 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: cotton1706

I am convinced that if the GOPe ‘owned’ Republicans got 75% of the Senate, and 75% of the House, the United States wouldn’t move one iota back to the Right.

It has moved steadily Left since Reagan, and that includes the Bush, Republican Senate, and Republican House years.

Big Left is in full control.


12 posted on 01/30/2014 9:28:32 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: tennmountainman

As I have harped on forever, the pure #s are irrelevant. If the GOP faces aren’t conservative, it’s irrelevant. That’s why I support people like Milton Wolf, a Tea Party guy, who is seeking to oust long-standing wallflower Pat Roberts in KS. Yes, Roberts has the appropriate ACA rating, but when the chips are down, he vanishes. Where was Roberts, for example, during the government shutdown?


13 posted on 01/30/2014 9:28:39 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: riri

I don’t see the GOP taking the Senate. The GOP have turned down the temp on obamacare and are now playing time wasting games with Dem issues.

The Dems will stay on message and win a few Senate races they should lose like LA. That will be enough to for them to keep the Senate.


14 posted on 01/30/2014 9:29:03 AM PST by lodi90
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To: cotton1706

So, House Rats...how does it feel to be cut loose by your nomenklatura?


15 posted on 01/30/2014 9:32:00 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: CatOwner

Nope.

Democrats.


16 posted on 01/30/2014 9:32:16 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706

While I don’t every put it past the GOP to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, I really think the Senate is a lost cause for the Democrats. They should probably work to minimize their losses in 2014 and try and get the Senate back in 2016.


17 posted on 01/30/2014 9:32:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: lodi90
That will be enough to for them to keep the Senate...

Such a shame, what with Ginsburg sure to not make it thru 2016, the seat to go to a leftist youngin.

18 posted on 01/30/2014 9:32:53 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: lodi90
The GOP have turned down the temp on obamacare and are now playing time wasting games with Dem issues.

Without the GOP saying a word, support for Obamacare is plummeting. Once the wave of canceled employer based plans hits the fan, Rats are going to be running for cover.

After the Labor Day recess is time enough to crucify Rats who voted for Obamacare and who continue to defend it.

19 posted on 01/30/2014 9:36:42 AM PST by randita
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To: cotton1706

Just heard on CBS that Waxman (Rodent Cali) has announced he is not going to run again


20 posted on 01/30/2014 9:36:43 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: chris37
" Nope.

Democrats."

Well, that's a relief. I was starting to think that Freepers had lost their sense of paranoia for a minute. Good to see that I was wrong.

21 posted on 01/30/2014 9:37:03 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: cotton1706

Don’t count your votes before the liberal activist judges do. :)


22 posted on 01/30/2014 9:38:43 AM PST by Tzimisce
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To: CatOwner

Tell me why I should trouble myself with voting for the GOP in November?

Go ahead and sell them to me.


23 posted on 01/30/2014 9:38:57 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706
The GOP is in chaos. Washington is in chaos.

Legislators have lobbyists write the laws and staff to read them. They vote whichever way their "handlers" tell them. They say and do whatever their "sponsors" want. They live in luxury and retire as multimillionaires.

The system no longer works. It was a pipe-dream from a bygone era when men of character were common. It's not that way anymore.

24 posted on 01/30/2014 9:40:57 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare is Obama's Great Leap Forward)
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To: chris37

Hey, if you want the DEMs to win, more power to you. If you aren’t willing or able to campaign for a candidate suitable to you, then I guess you get what you deserve. Oh, and thanks for sticking that to the rest of us.


25 posted on 01/30/2014 9:45:53 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: cotton1706
Snip: Losing the Senate, they know, could doom whatever hopes Barack Obama has of salvaging the final years of his presidency completing his mission to finish the destruction of our country.
26 posted on 01/30/2014 9:46:46 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: cotton1706
They won't have to cede the House after the GOP passes amnesty! Boner and others are already working on forfeiting the next round of elections because:
27 posted on 01/30/2014 9:50:39 AM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: CatOwner

I’m sorry, I’m not voting for anyone because they aren’t the other guy anymore.

Because they are the other guy.

You can be insane if you want to, I’m not going to.

Incidentally, I noticed that you CAN’T sell me on why I should vote for the GOP.

You certainly are not going to guilt me into voting for them.

So again, tell my why I should trouble myself voting with voting for the GOP this November.

I’ll be waiting.


28 posted on 01/30/2014 9:53:14 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706

If the Senate flips to the GOP, I hope that there will be a LOT of investigations into this administrations’ illegal activities. Further, I want there to be a series of impeachments, not against Obama, but against the several players that surround Obama.

This can be used as leverage like a DA uses against drug dealers. Go after the little fish and use them to testify against the big fish and potential 2016 candidates. Use the threat of impeachment or actual impeachment to remove a senator or two from states controlled by GOP governors. Use this now larger Senate majority to pass some constitutional amendments.


29 posted on 01/30/2014 9:53:18 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: cotton1706

They could do better than thet. They could cede the Senat and wH and save the entire country.


30 posted on 01/30/2014 9:54:14 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: cotton1706
Another democrat shell game to distract simpleton republicans.
Then democrats concentrate on the exact opposite of what they and their media butt-buddies say.


31 posted on 01/30/2014 10:02:39 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: chris37
Not sure why you are posting her then. Your life is a waste.

With conservatives these days, it's all or nothing. Well, guess what? You're getting nothing. If you aren't willing to play the progressives games and incrementally taking back part of this country, do us a favor and just leave the country.

It saddens me to think that if today's conservatives were around at the start of WW II for the US, they would have given up because the results weren't obtained quickly enough.

32 posted on 01/30/2014 10:06:09 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: cotton1706
The Republicans had all but secured the Senate in 2012 before the convention, but completely botched the general election by failing to plan a unified national ticket. Each race was left to its own, and Romney offered no coattails to support the local State races.

The GOP went from a gain of 7 to a loss of 2 in the last two months. Can they do it again in 2014?

-PJ

33 posted on 01/30/2014 10:08:21 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: cotton1706

This ccould allow us to build a massive majority in the House AND take the Senate. No amount of money is going to save Pryor and Co.


34 posted on 01/30/2014 10:10:18 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: lodi90

The Dems will stay on message and win a few Senate races they should lose like LA.
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Do you live in LA? I live in Texas, but, I am 8 minutes from Louisiana. (Yes, we eat crawfish, gumbo, jambalya and alligator.) I can tell you for a fact...... MARY LANDRIEU IS TOAST!!! She will lose her Senate seat.


35 posted on 01/30/2014 10:11:48 AM PST by Din Maker
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To: CatOwner

Yes, yes you should insult me personally since you can’t sell me on any single positive reason to vote for your party.

I’m not voting for LIARS any more. I’m not supporting LIARS anymore.

Quite frankly, I’d rather watch the whole thing go down in flames than to participate in the farce anymore.

If you want to trouble yourself with voting for LIARS come this November, then ball all means, knock yourself out.

Furthermore, it is your life that is a waste, because you rabidly support something and can’t even name a single reason why. You are quite simply a brain washed fool.

Pitiful.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 10:13:09 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

“Tell me why I should trouble myself with voting for the GOP in November?

Go ahead and sell them to me.”

President Hillary Clinton.


37 posted on 01/30/2014 10:14:23 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: randita

Without the GOP saying a word, support for Obamacare is plummeting. Once the wave of canceled employer based plans hits the fan, Rats are going to be running for cover.

After the Labor Day recess is time enough to crucify Rats who voted for Obamacare and who continue to defend it.


That’s not good enough. I guess you didn’t hear the latest Dem spin: those are not “cancellations”. They are “changes”.

You need a steady drip drop to destroy the Dem brand. Like the Dems did to Bush. They ground him down into nothing over the years.

All the Dems have to do to keep the Senate is win a few seats by bamboozling their low info base again. That’s not difficult.

The GOP doesn’t have the MSM in their corner. They need a consistent message. We need to hear loud and clear on a weekly basis from every single GOPer: Obamacare is hurting millions of people and the Dems are doing nothing to help them.

Going sidebar on amnesty or giving up issues like the IRS/NSA is a sure fire loser straregy for the GOP.


38 posted on 01/30/2014 10:16:28 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Political Junkie Too

The GOP went from a gain of 7 to a loss of 2 in the last two months. Can they do it again in 2014?


It’s the same folks running the GOP show. I wouldn’t bet against that happening again.


39 posted on 01/30/2014 10:17:49 AM PST by lodi90
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To: cotton1706

They’re not going to save either; they’re not going to even save Hillary.


40 posted on 01/30/2014 10:20:48 AM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: CatOwner

With conservatives these days, it’s all or nothing.


Exactly backwards. It’s progressive Republicans who are all or nothing. Exhibit A being the VA governors race. It’s progressive Republicans ignoring the IRS assault on conservatives, cutting vet retirement pay and refusing to engage the Democrats on obamacare.

Why should conservatives support those in the GOP who never support them? Nobody forced them to cut vet pay, push amnesty or ignore the IRS issue. They choose to do those things. Now conservatives are choosing not to support them. Simple.


41 posted on 01/30/2014 10:26:23 AM PST by lodi90
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To: CatOwner; All

Good grief Charlie Brown!!! I was told that this website was a great support group and info center for Conservatives. But, I have never seen so many whiney a** p***ies in all my life. All you, so called, FReepers (chris37, riri, lodi90, and tons of others) who have given up the fight, never have an encouraging word, always try to convince the rest of us that it’s hopeless and we should just bend over for the Democrats until the end of time........ WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON THIS WEBSITE? Get the hell off of here and take up knitting, whittling or watch “your gals” on “The View” every day, because, you sure as hell are not helping our cause.


42 posted on 01/30/2014 10:26:40 AM PST by Din Maker
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To: chris37

“Tell me why I should trouble myself with voting for the GOP in November?”

Don’t vote for a GOP candidate. Vote for a Tea Party candidate.


43 posted on 01/30/2014 10:27:17 AM PST by Keeper of the Turf (Fore!!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

That is not a positive reason.

That is a negative reason.

What has the GOP specifically done or accomplished to warrant, earn or deserve my or any other conservative’s vote?

I’m not going to be voting for a person because they have an R by their name any longer, because that R means not a damn thing other than -ENEMY-.

So, tell me, why should I vote GOP?


44 posted on 01/30/2014 10:28:31 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Din Maker

I’m doing what I’ve always done on this website.

Commenting.

Tell me, as a conservative, what are you doing supporting the GOP?


45 posted on 01/30/2014 10:30:10 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cotton1706
Hey Dems, the Tea Party is coming.

Can you hear us now?

46 posted on 01/30/2014 10:31:35 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: CatOwner; chris37

Here’s the deal— RINO Establishment are playing the game of “CHICKEN” with the mouth-breathing base.

Some of us are playing “CHICKEN”, right back. And, some of us aren’t.

Some are still willing to play the socialist hand they’re dealt every 4 years. This means voting for socialist Republicans the Establishment hands you. You won’t see them supporting a conservative anywhere on the map, so you go along to get along, on a wing and a prayer, but actually doing nothing about it, but enabling the inevitable working over you’re willing to take, over and over and over and over again.

How long do we bang our head against the wall?

It’s time to let the Establishment elites, their donors, and stupid supporters bang their head for a change.

Time’s up.


47 posted on 01/30/2014 10:31:49 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: chris37

While there are numerous variables affecting the outcome......

Aside from profound rationalization that means you are looking for an excuse not to make the required effort, the chance of a Democrat getting elected should be all the motivation that is required.

The fact the GOP does not agree with every item on your 1 item agenda is not an excuse not to vote Republican.


48 posted on 01/30/2014 10:33:12 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Keeper of the Turf
"Don’t vote for a GOP candidate. Vote for a Tea Party candidate."

Exactly. I am not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some here to understand.

49 posted on 01/30/2014 10:34:32 AM PST by CatOwner
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To: Viennacon

“This ccould allow us to build a massive majority in the House AND take the Senate. No amount of money is going to save Pryor and Co.”

That would be ideal!


50 posted on 01/30/2014 10:34:47 AM PST by cotton1706
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