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Atlanta's 'Snowpocalypse' turned ordinary commutes into chaos, confusion
Yahoo News ^ | 1/30/14 | Tim Skillern

Posted on 01/30/2014 11:12:17 AM PST by Kartographer

It’s likely not the birthday celebration James Freeman wished for.

The Rome, Ga., resident spent Tuesday — his 31st birthday — slogging across 72 miles of icy metro-Atlanta roads for 12 hours after leaving Norcross at 2:30 p.m.

“Some called it ‘Snowpocalypse,’ others ‘Snowmageddon.’ I called it my birthday,” Freeman shared in a first-person account he wrote for Yahoo News on Thursday.

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The pictures in this article are just WOW!!
1 posted on 01/30/2014 11:12:17 AM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

My wife is just now leaving work from having spent two days and nights there to try and get home. She’s gonna need some wine when she gets home.


2 posted on 01/30/2014 11:14:33 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Kartographer

Polar Vortex II: The Arctic Boogaloo?


3 posted on 01/30/2014 11:16:28 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Kartographer

I heard a news report this morning that said many people in Georgia are blaming the governor...


4 posted on 01/30/2014 11:16:37 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS

Why not the mayor?


5 posted on 01/30/2014 11:17:46 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I don’t know. They didn’t say.

Maybe they figure the governor is more powerful, and is more likely to be able to control the weather.


6 posted on 01/30/2014 11:19:11 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS
I heard that Jay Carney said that it was Bush's fault.
7 posted on 01/30/2014 11:19:11 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I heard it was ice and the state didn’t salt it. That will do it esp in GA.


8 posted on 01/30/2014 11:19:27 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: Kartographer

Just another catastrophe caused by global warming . . .


9 posted on 01/30/2014 11:19:39 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kartographer

I’m more impressed by the tumbleweed apocalypse in Clovis.


10 posted on 01/30/2014 11:20:00 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: WayneS

The governor has the power to call out the National Guard.


11 posted on 01/30/2014 11:20:52 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yep, those are not going to melt away in a day or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX4Li63kKZc#t=28


12 posted on 01/30/2014 11:22:41 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Kartographer

““Some called it ‘Snowpocalypse,’ others ‘Snowmageddon.’”

No, just pure stupidity on display when some snow and ice turns a major city into a laughing stock. I dont care how rare snow is there, people know that it does happen, and everyone from the state, city, and down to the people that didn’t invest in winter tires and salt after the LAST time, are just as much at fault.


13 posted on 01/30/2014 11:23:23 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Sacajaweau
The mayor has the power (and the responsibility) to call out the trucks to spray magnesium chloride and not ever need the National Guard.
14 posted on 01/30/2014 11:24:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Kartographer

True.

But since Jay Carney is ALWAYS saying “It’s Bush’s fault”, no one is 100% sure he was referring to the snow storm in Atlanta.

He could have been blaming Bush for the Olympics being held in Russia, the failure of the Obamacare web-site, the Benghazi attack, the continued existence of Hillary Clinton, the recent earthquakes in southeast Asia, a random house fire in Tuscaloosa Alabama or any number of other recent and historic occurrences and catastrophes, whether natural and “man-caused”.


15 posted on 01/30/2014 11:24:46 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: sickoflibs
They should have closed some roads.....earlier....at least the bridges...

Call Christie...he knows how to do that.

Everyone should have been on the phone getting some trucks on standby....

Our weatherman had this predicted. No excuse!

16 posted on 01/30/2014 11:25:13 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

...and the National Guard can cause snow storms?


17 posted on 01/30/2014 11:25:31 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Sacajaweau

The Governor sounds like a Republican version of Kathleen Blanco.


18 posted on 01/30/2014 11:26:24 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kartographer

In Boston people are still wearing shorts with only 2 to 3 inches on the ground.


19 posted on 01/30/2014 11:31:26 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: Kartographer

I don’t understand why everyone just didn’t hunker down for a day or two. Why were kids stranded at school and on buses?


20 posted on 01/30/2014 11:34:18 AM PST by McGruff (I'm a conservative. Not necessarily a republican.)
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To: Kartographer

I’m in Atlanta. THE fatal flaw was that when the NWS issued a Winter Storm Warning at 3:38 am Tuesday morning all schools should have been closed. Period. Instead EVERYONE completely ignored the storm warning. I went to work. Wife and kids went to school. Everyone was open. Nobody heeded the storm warning.


21 posted on 01/30/2014 11:34:21 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: WayneS; rightwingintelligentsia

The emergency plan calls for the interstates to be the responsibility of the state of Georgia.

The City of Atlanta and other municipalities are responsible for the surface streets.


22 posted on 01/30/2014 11:35:07 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Boardwalk

The problem was that the snow melted and froze on the roads in less than 2 hours from when it started. The roads were primarily a layer of ice with snow on top of it.


23 posted on 01/30/2014 11:36:31 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Sound's like Nasim is related to former NO Mayor Nagin, who let buses sit in lots, while he partied in Alexandria, until flooding prevented NO residents to escape, then he and Shep Smith could blame Bush and "Brownie" for not caring for people of color during Hurricane Katrinia.

Notice, Katrina didn't devastate NO but he system of locks that are under the purview of NO and various state officials, weren't prepared for continuous rain that accompanied Katrina but the lax and bordering on criminal behavior by Mayor Nagin, caused deaths of scores of people!!!

Mayor Nasim (sp) of Atlanta proclaiming that "roads had been treated" was obviously untrue!

24 posted on 01/30/2014 11:36:38 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Kartographer
WOW, Just WOW. If your vehicle is not set up for snow and ice stay home. I was born and raised in winter snow and ice, have 4 wheel drive vehicles with all terrain tires on them. I no longer live in an area that has regular snow but when it does snow here I stay home. I can drive safely in on the slick roads but the flatlanders/city slickers down here will kill you. If you doubt this reality just look at the vids and pics of the Atlanta freeways. Dumb dumb dumb people.

I look at this as mass stupidity. Yes all of them should have known to stay home or stay where they were and off the roads. Those who are blaming the city or state are looking for a scapegoat for their own stupidity.

25 posted on 01/30/2014 11:36:43 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: Kartographer

I have lived in atlanta since college, 1991. Since then there have been 2 major (for us) snow storms and 3-5 minor ones. I count this as a minor one.

Around 1996 2 inches of snow fell during afternoon rush hour in early December (the way I remember it). It took me 4 hours to go 3 miles.

I have never been on the road here during snow since then. I saw the forecasts and worked from home Tuesday. My CEO called and laughed at my worry over traffic around 10am. I can’t wait to hear about his commute after a lunch meeting in midtown.

3 years ago the city shut down for a week because of snow and ice. I learned a new lesson then. Shovel the driveway before the slush sets and keep tire chains handy just in case.

This is a once every 5 year event. Kids get to play and stay home from school. It’s like an I scheduled vacation. Maybe a whole new generation of Atlantans will learn to beat the snow home.


26 posted on 01/30/2014 11:48:26 AM PST by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Yes ice is the worst. We had about 15 inches of snow the other day and it took me 3 hours to get home. It usually takes 45 mins or so. I would rather have tons of snow than ice!


27 posted on 01/30/2014 11:50:45 AM PST by Boardwalk
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To: laxcoach

There was someone posting yesterday who didn’t understand shoveling snow before it hardened. Or putting down salt. People, on some level, need to know how to help themselves.


28 posted on 01/30/2014 11:52:43 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Kartographer
Never let your gas tank get below half. You never know when something will happen that throws your routine into a cocked hat.
29 posted on 01/30/2014 11:56:40 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All
This terrible happening reminds me of the survival backpack in the trunk of my car. Once I bought it and put it in the trunk, I didn't think of it again except I knew it was in there. It takes up very little space in the trunk but there is every tool and provision required to keep warm and there are packages of water and food bars to last three days. I'm going to list its contents again because it is complete and I don't have to worry about being out somewhere and having an emergency. I also keep a wind up/solar/battery radio in the car. There is a charger/connection for the cell phone in the car in case I had to call and its battery was dead. Crank up the car, plug in the phone and call. Of course, if you let your car battery die, that won't work.

You don't have to get this particular pack, but let it encourage you to get one of your choice that would have enough gear so you will survive (this description is from the company:

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See-through pockets for quick access to items
Ring hooks for added attachments
Two side pockets for storage of a personal safety device and bottle
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Thermal blanket
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First aid kit
Multifunction tool
Leather work gloves
Respirator mask
Compass
Signaling whistle
Thermometer
Red emergency flasher
Waterproof document/cash bag
Signaling mirror
Writing pad & pen
6-page disaster preparedness action guide

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No oxygen transfer (no chance of bacterial contamination)
Pre-measured packets make water easy to dispense
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5-year shelf life
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Product in Inches (L x W x H): 13.0 x 6.0 x 19.0

30 posted on 01/30/2014 11:57:11 AM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

As this is written, Atlanta is still in the throes of another winter weather situation. The TV is filled with images of major highways littered with abandoned vehicles. Many of their owners are stranded in make-shift shelters until warmer weather makes the roads passable again.

The governor and other officials just concluded a news conference to explain how the mess unfolded and that they’ve learned much from this experience.

One of the lessons they “learned” is that, once the potential severity of this event became obvious, dismissing public and private employees all at once to try to get home was a really bad idea as it is many of their abandoned vehicles now clogging the roads, making it impossible for the salt and sand trucks to do their thing.

How unfortunate that so many of these state officials and private business management folks seem to be slow learners. We’ve had a number of these events in years past and the result is the same: Hundreds of thousands of gallons of expensive fuel burned, multiple thousands of people stranded, some folks even dying in accidents or from exposure, etc.

There IS a sensible solution for at least SOME of these folks and the problems they faced, a solution that could also seriously curtail the massive and growing year round Atlanta traffic rush hour gridlock and, just incidentally, conserve that precious fuel and reduce the CO2 and other emissions the Algore and the other “climate change” charlatans insist causes “global warming” (despite growing evidence that they’re nuts).

In the 60s and 70s, Tom Peters, an American writer on business management practices, wrote and spoke extensively on what he called the “Electronic Cottage.” It was a very sensible proposal made possible by the coming of age of the electronic revolution.

In a nutshell, his proposal, even MORE sensible now that the electronic revolution has had 50 years to mature, is that, unless a worker’s occupation absolutely required that he leave his home each day to drive to where he performs his duties, the need for him to do so was becoming unnecessary. If he or she was one of the growing number of INFORMATION workers from whom an employer needed mainly or only an INFORMATION WORK PRODUCT, that product could just as easily be created in an “electronic cottage” in some small portion of his or her home.

If I have to explain the societal benefits of that, please stop reading now as you may be one of Obama’s no/low information folks and wouldn’t grasp how it would save vast amounts of valuable energy resources and human time as folks no longer would need to sit in stop and go rush hours breathing noxious fumes for several hours each day. If you are one of those whose job requires you to navigate a rush hour twice a day, try to imagine how YOUR rush hour experience might improve with half or more of the vehicles removed from the highways?

Speaking of noxious fumes, I sincerely believe that these big city rush hours and those noxious fumes are damaging our brains, exacerbating the dumbing down begun in the government schools to the point where 47% or so of us actually believed the BS laid down my Obama and put an unvetted, unqualified, Marxist community organizer in office – TWICE – and still haven’t noticed that his every act is designed to destroy America.

(I’m tempted to raise the issue of school busing but that’s a topic for another rant.)

There is another reason why Peters’ common sense proposal has not gained more traction. That is the ego driven flaw that dictates that the corporate guy who makes it up the food chain to a corner office feels the need to be able to periodically stroll from that office and gaze around at a mass of cubicle enclosed fellow humans and know that they are “his” people. Their absence from his sight would cause him to feel less important and secure.

And, speaking of security, it COULD come to pass that those above him in that food chain might begin to question just why HE is in that corner office. Can’t have that sort of thing now, can we, lest it ripple up and down the entire food chain.

So, while I don’t hold out much hope that the electronic cottage with all its many benefits will get any serious consideration, it is possible that coming events here might force it upon us.


31 posted on 01/30/2014 12:22:22 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: Kartographer
So basically these kind of threads devolve into two groups of people...

Group 1 (The Rugged Outdoors-men) - Those who scoff at the Southern city-slickers who are unaccustomed to winter weather. They are sure to mention that a foot of snow is "late October" to them and you will hear them speak about how they go out in zero degree weather in their shorts and sandals and rub their bellies with snow because you know, zero degrees is a "heat wave" for them, and they need to cool themselves down. They will hasten to add that when they were growing up, the schools never closed and they would have to tunnel their way to their second grade classroom under 10 foot drifts - at least three miles - so thankfully they had compasses in their pockets to guide their way.

Group 2 (The Preppers) - This group is sure to scold the same Southern city-slickers for not outfitting their cars with studded Blizzak snow tires and keeping Arctic sleeping bags in their trunks. The fact that it only snows in their area once every five years will be no excuse. They will be sure to mention that they never travel anywhere without a 30-day supply of canned food and enough guns and ammunition to wipe out a small town. They will go on to state that anybody who dared venture out of their homes unprepared deserves whatever fate that befalls them.

32 posted on 01/30/2014 12:22:54 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Dick Bachert

I don’t like telecommuting myself, I prefer to be in the office, but it is nice to know if we have inclement weather, that I can work from home.


33 posted on 01/30/2014 12:24:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: VanDeKoik
I dont care how rare snow is there, people know that it does happen, and everyone from the state, city, and down to the people that didn’t invest in winter tires and salt after the LAST time, are just as much at fault.

Go rent "Cool Runnings" from Netflix. It's about the zany antics of the Jamaican Olympic Bobsled team and is just as comical as your comment.

Only a fool would invest in snow tires to be used only two or three days in ten or fifteen years. And buying salt will only get a person out of his own driveway. Then what would you suggest?

The day before the storm alert was issued all the Weather Bureau projections advised that it would not hit the Atlanta Metro area. At the last minute they revised the projections to include Hot'lanta.

The fact is that a few million people leaving work early, all at the same time, caused gridlock with traffic slowed by fenderbenders and white-knuckled novice drivers scared of their first time skidding on the ice. After the first hour or two it was already to late to recover.

I am glad I work from home and I recommend it highly. It makes me more objective and understanding too.

34 posted on 01/30/2014 12:29:15 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: SamAdams76

I guess I am in the second group, but is it to much and how many would have been helped it the had simple had al weather tires on their vehicles, and had a sleeping bag, a flashlight, a MRE or some lifeboat biscuits, something to drink and maybe an old sweat suit in the trunk? Is that really to much??


35 posted on 01/30/2014 12:36:40 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dfwgator

If I can assume the dfw stands for Dallas-Ft.Worth (where we lived and had 2 boys for 3+ years in the 70s).

Don’t know what DFW rush hour gridlock looks like these days but if you lived in Atlanta and had to literally piss away a minimum of 2 hours a day in rush hours, you might sing a different tune.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 12:39:46 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: SamAdams76; appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Also if you can look at the pictures of miles of interstate at a dead standstill and still rall against at least being a little prepared then there is no hope or help for you.


37 posted on 01/30/2014 12:40:17 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Would you keep snow tires only to be used once in several years and then on the one time you need then not have enough warning to go out and have them mounted? No you wouldn't and only an idiot would.

Our TV Weathermen and the NWS have predicted snow and ice many times when it didn't happen. North Georgia does have some mountains and predicted snow usually only hits the higher elevations and more rural areas.

38 posted on 01/30/2014 12:48:45 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Read my post again. Did I not say ‘All Weather’ tires? Do you have a problem with that as well?


39 posted on 01/30/2014 12:54:24 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lazamataz

Ping!


40 posted on 01/30/2014 12:55:58 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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41 posted on 01/30/2014 1:01:11 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Kartographer

Southern folk are great...but are total idiots behind the wheel.


42 posted on 01/30/2014 1:03:44 PM PST by wyowolf
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To: Kartographer

Or forget all that (it is, after all, a southern state) and just make sure you’ve got a half-tank of gas if there’s a forecast of a winter storm?

It’s not like you’re not going to use the gas in the near future if nothing happens.


43 posted on 01/30/2014 1:13:47 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SamAdams76; Kartographer
“Group 2 (The Preppers) - They will be sure to mention that they never travel anywhere without a 30-day supply of canned food and enough guns and ammunition to wipe out a small town. They will go on to state that anybody who dared venture out of their homes unprepared deserves whatever fate that befalls them.”

You are among the group who makes those outrageous comments about preppers as though preppers love it when someone gets in trouble without preps. No prepper I know has thirty days of canned food and enough guns and ammo to wipe out a small town in their car.

I am a prepper and have a prepared backpack in my car. It is INSURANCE and you bet I encourage people to have that insurance in their car. You have insurance on your house and insurance on your car, so why not have survival insurance for yourself in your car? It's not a big deal to do it, so why not?

When Rita was coming through Galveston and Houston and my town, highway 45 was jammed with cars who were stopped in heat and most had no water or food in their cars and people died on that highway. The stoppage was all the way to Dallas. Did you get that - people died. I will never stop encouraging people to have a prepared backpack in their car. If I save one person from dying, it is worth it as it just takes my typing letters of the alphabet to encourage them to do that.

In this area, you can count on a hurricane coming through here and if you miss a year, that's great, but they will come again. And, yes, my car stays at least half full all the time.

I want everyone to live, don't you?

44 posted on 01/30/2014 1:29:41 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

Greta had some young mom on last night who was going on and on about how traumatized she was, because she was separated from her 8 month old baby for 36 hours and how worried she was about the baby and all she went through to reunite with her baby. Except the baby was with this lady’s MOTHER. Seriously, if in an emergency situation, you can’t leave your baby with your own mother for a day and a half without coming unhinged with worry, you’ve got bigger problems than the weather.


45 posted on 01/30/2014 1:31:02 PM PST by Hoffer Rand (If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. *Asterisk.*)
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To: WayneS

“I don’t know. They didn’t say.

Maybe they figure the governor is more powerful, and is more likely to be able to control the weather.”

The mayor is black. To blame him would be racist.


46 posted on 01/30/2014 1:35:45 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Kartographer

Did the local news bump weather to the top story??

Wonder if the local weather people are annoyed their winter storm warning was ignored??


47 posted on 01/30/2014 1:36:10 PM PST by RginTN
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To: SamAdams76

How quaint, taking yet another opportunity to ridicule folks who prepare for the curveballs in life.


48 posted on 01/30/2014 1:39:32 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: wyowolf

What a stupid generalization.


49 posted on 01/30/2014 1:41:18 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Hoffer Rand

“Except the baby was with this lady’s MOTHER.”

You are thinking with a clear mind in a safe place. People who haven’t gone through an emergency, are likely to get frantic and panic and they don’t have clear minds to think things through. I also heard that lady and it’s true her baby was safe, but the lady was in panic and not thinking clearly.


50 posted on 01/30/2014 1:41:20 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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