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Why Kerry Is Scary (Trying to Force a Middle East "Peace")
New York Times ^ | January 28, 2014 | Thomas Friedman

Posted on 01/30/2014 2:20:03 PM PST by tom h

TEL AVIV — It is pretty clear now that Secretary of State John Kerry will either be Israel’s diplomatic salvation or the most dangerous diplomatic fanatic Israel has ever encountered. But there isn’t much room anymore for anything in between. This is one of those rare pay-per-view foreign policy moments. Pull up a chair. You don’t see this every day.

In essence what Kerry is daring to test is a question everyone has wanted to avoid: Is the situation between Israelis and Palestinians at five minutes to midnight or five minutes after midnight, or even 1 a.m. (beyond diplomacy)?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; lebanon; lurch; palestine; peace; russia; syria; waronterror
Obama wants a peace treaty so he can pretend to earn his Nobel Peace Prize, after the fact.

Kerry wants a peace treaty so he can fill that huge ego of his, as the greatest Secretary of State of all time, before a last run for President in 2016.

I view them both as giving Israel up to the wolves.

The future destruction of the Israeli state -- now that's change you can believe in.

1 posted on 01/30/2014 2:20:03 PM PST by tom h
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To: tom h
The author muses that there are only two alternatives -- a binational Israeli state with residents (Palestinians) who cannot vote or serve; or a partition as Kerry is trying to accomplish.

There is a third. Resettlement of the Palestinians to other Muslim nations.

2 posted on 01/30/2014 2:21:55 PM PST by tom h
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To: tom h

It’s like Peace Rape? he just keeps forcing and forcing it, even though they already said No!


3 posted on 01/30/2014 2:23:38 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: tom h

Traitor in the 1970s, traitor in the 1980s, traitor today.


4 posted on 01/30/2014 2:23:39 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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5 posted on 01/30/2014 2:23:52 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: tom h

so far not one single thing reported about Kerry’s plans are even remotely feasible, possible, or beneficial in any way whatsoever

they are all designed to deprive Israel of more of its tiny land and especially take away two key parts it needs for self-defense.... Israel’s high hills (overlooking its cities) and its eastern border buffer strip (across which massive enemy Islamic armies have marched or threatened to march several times already).

a total losing proposition is our secretary of state...
a high-flying disaster area

and a tremendous embarrassment to America.

let’s bring him home and keep him home (and keep him away from foreign affairs!)... let him sit in WashDC and collect his wages and throw darts at the wall for all we care...

just keep him out of causing any more trouble!


6 posted on 01/30/2014 2:26:17 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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“There is a third. Resettlement of the Palestinians to other Muslim nations. “

The Palestinians are there because other Arab nations wanted hem to be there a constant goad against Israel. They won’t take them. You couldn’t beat, beg, bribe or threaten to move them there. If you did move them there, the host country would kill them in their own defense.


7 posted on 01/30/2014 2:28:48 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: tom h

The future destruction of Israel will happen in God’s timing. Until then Israel with be a stumbling block to the nations and any who try to destroy her shall be brought low.


8 posted on 01/30/2014 2:31:22 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: tom h

Gosh I hate the NYT’s and their 1996 demands for a log-in.

No, I don’t have a good throw-away email address.


9 posted on 01/30/2014 2:36:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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10 posted on 01/30/2014 2:40:00 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Gen.Blather

Dave Hunt noted in “Israel, Islam and Armageddon” that Kuwait had deported 300,000 Palestinians. But not a whimper of anything from the United Nations nor the other Arab states.

Because they are to be a thorn in Israel’s side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TfDILkOcvo

A Damien Thorn, if you’ll excuse the joke.


11 posted on 01/30/2014 2:41:16 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: F15Eagle

Saddam played God and told the Palestinians kuwait was the Promised Land

Kuwait rejected the notion and kicked them out

Israel was not involved and was neither harmed nor helped


12 posted on 01/30/2014 2:48:09 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: F15Eagle
"I don’t have a good throw-away email address."

In the old days, before they validated email addresses, I always used to use hillaryis@witch.com or obamais@commie.com.

Now it's so easy to pick one for all the lefty news sites. Who cares if they send you spam every day? Try:

commies-suck@ymail.com
or
reid-eat-my-shorts@gmail.com

13 posted on 01/30/2014 2:57:46 PM PST by tom h
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To: bert

~~~Israel was not involved and was neither harmed nor helped~~~

Oh, of course not.

BUT it shows the hypocrisy of the United Nations and the Arabs.

Because, it’s not about ‘the Palestinians’.

It’s about making life difficult for Israel.


14 posted on 01/30/2014 3:05:00 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: tom h

~~~hillaryis@witch.com~~~

Oh, I like that one.


15 posted on 01/30/2014 3:05:39 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Gen.Blather
Hard to disagree with you but ... the only reasons why Arab nations have been so unreasonable since the end of WWII is ... oil.

If we can break their financial backs with fracking, here in the USA and in Europe, then those nations will be reeling. THAT will be the time to work on resettlement.

Just remember that in the aftermath of WWII tens of millions of people were relocated to make national boundaries more sensible and keep hostile peoples apart. Most of them were Germans, but it included Hungarians, Poles, Ukrainians, Finns, Koreans, Japanese, Russians, Serbs, Chinese, and Yugoslavs. Almost 20 million total. Sure it was difficult and no doubt some of these people wanted to stay put but the world was behind it and the people moved.

It's always amazed me that while this huge international transfer of people was happening between 1945 and 1950, a couple hundred thousand Palestinians were babied and coddled rather than being told to take up residence elsewhere in the middle east.

16 posted on 01/30/2014 3:05:46 PM PST by tom h
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To: MrEdd
Roger that but in the meantime we must do whatever we can to protect Israel. That means defending her in the political realm and opposing morons like John Kerry.

Genesis 12:3 -- "I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee."

17 posted on 01/30/2014 3:08:17 PM PST by tom h
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To: F15Eagle
Too bad it doesn't work anymore. I must've used it 1,000 times.

Especially when doing bogus signups for Democrat mailing lists.

Just wanted to see the look on the IT administrator's face when he saw the address bouncing back email.

18 posted on 01/30/2014 3:10:09 PM PST by tom h
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To: F15Eagle

No, it is about getting the Palestinians out of Kuwait and back where they came from.

It was all about the Palestinians that came to Kuwait to root out the Kuwaiti’s.

I know that for a fact. Trying to involve Israel indicates complete misunderstandingof the events


19 posted on 01/30/2014 3:16:39 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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The point is, the Arab states have nothing but contempt for Palestinians.

I never said Israel was involved in the Kuwait affair.

Only that nobody gave 2 cents what were happening to “Palestinians” in regards to another matter.


20 posted on 01/30/2014 3:19:07 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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-——the Arab states have nothing but contempt for Palestinians.-——

Now you are talkin....... that is right on the money

The fact is, almost nobody gives a damn about the Palestinians or needs to


21 posted on 01/30/2014 3:24:50 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Zero and Lurch (and the rest of the regime) are dangerous anti-American demagogues. Thanks tom h.


22 posted on 01/30/2014 5:41:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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