Skip to comments.Cruz: 'The Terrain Has Changed and I Believe We Will Repeal Obamacare'
Posted on 01/30/2014 11:58:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Calling Obamacare a Rube Goldberg-like contraption that has caused more people to lose their health insurance than those who are enrolled in the exchanges, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) revised his previous assessment that once the government subsidies kicked in, it would be impossible to repeal Obamacare because Americans would become addicted to the sugar.
We are seeing the fruits of the battle that so many millions of Americans engaged in last fall to stop Obamacare, and I think the direct result of that fight was to elevate the national debate over the harms that Obamacare has caused, Cruz said during a Wednesday conference call with reporters and bloggers. And as a consequence, I think the terrain has changed and I believe we will repeal Obamacare."
Cruz noted that momentum was building to repeal President Obamas signature health care law even among groups that had previously supported it.
I believe that the American people have grown to understand what an absolute disaster this law is, that it is killing millions of jobs, forcing millions into part-time work, has already resulted in over five million people losing their health insurance and that it is producing skyrocketing premiums for people all over this country.
And I think as a result of so many Americans speaking out and really highlighting the consequences, were seeing the popularity of Obamacare plummet. Were seeing it becoming increasingly unpopular with young people, with Hispanics, with independents, with Democrats.
"And as long as we keep the focus on the manifest failures the people who are being hurt because of Obamacare the case will continue to be made that it has to be repealed.
Pointing out that President Obama did not say a single word to the five million people whose health insurance polices have been cancelled because of Obamacare during Tuesdays State of the Union address, Cruz said that if the purpose of this law was to extend insurance to 330,000 people who were uninsured, it would have been a heck of a lot cheaper to just write a check to each of those 330,000 people for a million bucks apiece.
If we had done that, it would have cost only one-sixth of what Obamacare is going to cost and it wouldnt have caused over five million people to lose their health insurance, it wouldnt have caused millions of people to lose their jobs or be forced into part-time work, [or] to see their premiums skyrocket.
Cruz said he was still looking at the details of a plan to replace Obamacare proposed Monday by Senators Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) ,Richard Burr (R-N.C). and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) that would eliminate the federal mandates, and instead use tax incentives based on age and income to encourage individuals to buy health insurance and business owners to provide it.
What was most striking was that within minutes of the plan being announced, the White Hosue immediately began attacking it .Given that the plan had been announced moments before, they were blasting the plan without reading the details, Cruz said.
The Texas Republican held a 21-hour filibuster on the Senate floor last September in an unsuccessful attempt to stop Senate Democrats from funding Obamacare on a straight party-line vote.
Wow! That's powerful. God Bless Ted Cruz.
I hope it can be repealed.
I hope it’s just repealed — period — and not replaced with some other stupid idea, especially from the Republicans.
The likely scenario:
1. This little budget helper for the insurance companies to prevent failure....will be attacked and cut (maybe not a lot, but enough). This speeds up the collapse process.
2. By summer of 2015, shock over the January 2015 rate increases, and the new rates for 2016 will be released. Most everyone who makes over seventy thousand a year will question now....why they need to pay out $12,000 a year for the insurance and deductible costs. More folks will decline to stay with insurance.
3. By January of 2016, whatever number of uninsured we had in 2008....will be almost doubled. News journalists will try hard to get around the story, but health insurance companies will be noting massive cancellations and fewer customers....which means less profits....which means higher costs for January of 2017. The number one topic for all of spring 2017....will be how to fix this mess. Forget the budget problem (which ought to be number one).
Why can’t other Republicans talk like this? Every sentence is dagger of truth plunged into the political hearts of democrats.
Beavis and Butthead, Bonor and McCornhole, won’t repeal it. The two clowns need to be ridden out on a rail.
I know it’s premature . . . but I’m really starting to think “Cruz for President.” ‘Cause no one else is speaking truth to power like he is these days.
Because the other Republicans have embraced the Tao of Republican Orthodoxy.
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Though he got his numbers a little off, didn’t he? Wasn’t it supposed to be 30 million uninsured, not 330,000? But the idea is the same. It would have been cheaper to just give those folks a free ride.
A Dem friend (I keep trying to convert her; she actually owns a brain) asked me what I would have done rather than Obamacare. I see the use of our emergency rooms as a walkin clinic by our uninsured as the major part of the problem. I tolk her I thought it would have been cheaper and better just to build a sliding-scale clinic right beside every emergency room in the country. When Joe Uninsured walks in with his hangnail and sees the triage nurse, she would make the decision to either have Joe continue on into the emergency area, or deflect him next door, to the clinic, where he could wait six hours to have his hangnail looked at. Then people with heart attacks etc. would actually go to the emergency area.
I’ve never seen this idea in print anywhere, and I was just wondering what our Freepers think of it.
Sounds about right to me. Similar to “sick call” in the military. I also foresee some crafty entrepreneurs stationing used cruise liners or purpose-built ships just outside the US territorial waters and doing everything from heart, plastic, gastric-bypass and liposuction to back surgery for dimes on the dollar and you get something of a “vacation” thrown in for the overall price. What do you think of that?
I would go further and have somebody on site at all times to teach you how to treat your own non-serious condition, so you don’t have to go to the hospital all the time if you,know what to,do.
Cruz said he was still looking at the details of a ****plan to replace******* Obamacare proposed Monday by Senators Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) ,Richard Burr (R-N.C). and Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) that would eliminate the federal mandates, and instead use tax incentives based on age and income to encourage individuals to buy health insurance and business owners to provide it.
Because they believe in big government as well, but think they can "run" it better when it's their turn to feed at the trough.
I also foresee some crafty entrepreneurs stationing used cruise liners or purpose-built ships just outside the US territorial waters and doing everything from heart, plastic, gastric-bypass and liposuction to back surgery for dimes on the dollar and you get something of a vacation thrown in for the overall price.
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I have a friend who is self-insured, who got colon cancer. He went to India for his treatment, stayed there for four months to be treated, and had a helluva vacation. I believe he said the price for the surgery and all the follow-ups was about $30K. He was quite enthusiastic about the vacation part of his experience. So that put me in mind of your idea. The only problem I see with the cruise ship idea is that this might raise hackles in the U.S. and Congress might start passing laws to prevent citizens going there or something. Clinics in another country have the advantage of their own government to protect them.
and instead use tax incentives
“I hope it can be repealed.”
No! Wait for it to “implode”! /sarc
As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :
OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have your choice of doctor.
Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marched in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."
SIGNING "THE BIG EFFIN' DEAL" (now known as "The Big Effin Debacle")
"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime. This
healthcare bill insures we have a permanent Democratic majority."
" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:
(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."
"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."
I devoutly believe that Obamacare will be chronicled in history as a blunder of Ceausescuian proportions.
Boobambas signature legislation formerly touted as his main accomplishment - has been an unmitigated disaster.
I wondered the same. Why is Cruz one of very few who stick to the principles they campaigned on?
I say it has far less to do with the character of the people we send, and far more to do with the structure of congress.
A truism well known by our framers was that of private virtue and public vice among popularly elected politicians. I'd bet the vast majority of even rat politicians never stole a personal item in their lives. OTOH, when participating as one of many, such as in congress, they have no problem stealing property from one set of citizens and giving it to another set. It is the nature of popular representation.
It is why so many tea partiers go wobbly or full rino.
The key to possible restoration of freedom is to return to the federal design of our framers.
As long as both houses of congress are popularly derived, our fate is democratic tyranny. There is little, if any time to save our republic.
January 1, 2015 after the new congress is sworn in w a majority in both houses:
1. Replace Boehner
2. Impeach and remove Obama, Biden, and Holder
3. Repeal Obamacare in total.
4. Pass a bill beginning to repeal the 16th and 17th Amendmends.
5. Defund DEA, EPA, TSA, DHS, DoE, DoHHS, DoEDu, CIA, NSA.
Costa Rica is already on it.
Ahem, very few were elected for their intelligence..........
The good news is, when they repeal it, a lot fewer people will lose their health insurance than lost it when the commie lib ‘RATS turned this beast loose on Americans.
“Cruz noted that momentum was building to repeal President Obamas signature health care law even among groups that had previously supported it.”
That certainly does not apply to us, does it?
I wonder how Big Pharma likes the unintended consequences of Obamacare. Millions of Americans lose their coverage, so fewer prescriptions for those noxious statins, anti-depressants, etc.
How can you add Abilify to your anti-depressant, when you no longer have a doctor?
Congress isn’t listening to Main Street. I think Cruz is referring to K Street.
I think people should have to pass through the urgent care to get to the ER.
What a team this would make.
Health Care Reform by John Mackey, Whole Foods CEO
Remove the legal obstacles that slow the creation of high-deductible health insurance plans and health savings accounts (HSAs). The combination of high-deductible health insurance and HSAs is one solution that could solve many of our health-care problems. For example, Whole Foods Market pays 100% of the premiums for all our team members who work 30 hours or more per week (about 89% of all team members) for our high-deductible health-insurance plan. We also provide up to $1,800 per year in additional health-care dollars through deposits into employees' Personal Wellness Accounts to spend as they choose on their own health and wellness. Money not spent in one year rolls over to the next and grows over time. Our team members therefore spend their own health-care dollars until the annual deductible is covered (about $2,500) and the insurance plan kicks in. This creates incentives to spend the first $2,500 more carefully. Our plan's costs are much lower than typical health insurance, while providing a very high degree of worker satisfaction.
Equalize the tax laws so that employer-provided health insurance and individually owned health insurance have the same tax benefits. Now employer health insurance benefits are fully tax deductible, but individual health insurance is not. This is unfair.
Repeal all state laws which prevent insurance companies from competing across state lines. We should all have the legal right to purchase health insurance from any insurance company in any state and we should be able use that insurance wherever we live. Health insurance should be portable.
Repeal government mandates regarding what insurance companies must cover. These mandates have increased the cost of health insurance by billions of dollars. What is insured and what is not insured should be determined by individual customer preferences and not through special-interest lobbying.
Enact tort reform to end the ruinous lawsuits that force doctors to pay insurance costs of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. These costs are passed back to us through much higher prices for health care.
Make costs transparent so that consumers understand what health-care treatments cost. How many people know the total cost of their last doctor's visit and how that total breaks down? What other goods or services do we buy without knowing how much they will cost us?
Enact Medicare reform. We need to face up to the actuarial fact that Medicare is heading towards bankruptcy and enact reforms that create greater patient empowerment, choice and responsibility.
Finally, revise tax forms to make it easier for individuals to make a voluntary, tax-deductible donation to help the millions of people who have no insurance and aren't covered by Medicare, Medicaid or the State Children's Health Insurance Program.
Here is one FR link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2313920/posts
Problem is can we recover from the damage? The business model has already changed. Can we un-ring the bell. I see having to pass more, new laws to get things “back” to the open market model. Maybe a new one to get rid of that stupid interstate albatross.
We actually have a hospital here that did that. There is a medi center connected to the emergency room. When you check in you see a triage nurse and she directs them which side to send you to. Everyone waits in the same waiting room so you don’t know where you are going until your name is called. It actually works well.
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That would make WAY too much sense!
The libs wouldn’t be able to whip out their (fill in the blank — race, inequity, war on wimmins) cards fast enough, though.
I think it suits him!
He’s the very best!!
We did not want Obamacare, and you Neo-Democrat RINOs gave it to us anyway, and we are the worse for it.
We DO want yall to enforce existing Federal Border Laws.
WE DO NOT WANT IMMIGRATION REFORM ! Yall gave us that in 1986, and we are the worse for it!
Now yall say that we need to cave in this year to Obama on Immigration Reform. Why this perversion to betray us!?
This is the same GEE OH PEE pablum that you Neo-Democrat RINOs have been always been feeding to the gullible, low information voters.
McCain, McConnell, Cornyn, Boehner, Cantor, and Ryan are always waiting for massive support from the Public before they even consider doing a pitched battle with the enemy.
The enemy is yall caving in to Obama! Just enforce existing Border Laws!
Yall go on TV to publicly beat yalls chests, and then reach across the aisle to yalls good friends in order to get something done.
You Neo-Democrat RINOs will never lead, will always wait for a groundswell of Public discontent before risking incurring the wrath of their most dreaded enemy: The Leftstream Media.
Note to all the Congressional RINO leaders: We gave yall in 2010 what yall said yall were waiting for - - - - The Massive TEA Party Rebellion, and yall fought us every step of the way, and are fighting us now more than ever!
We gave yall the support that yall asked for and yall betrayed us!
Betray us once, shame on you. Betray us twice, shame on us!
LEAD, OR GET OUT OF OUR WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW, we have long memories, and just so yall know, RINO SEASON IS NOW OPEN AND THERE ARE NO BAG LIMITS !
Boehner pledged to repeal Obamacare, and two months later Boehner said this: Obamacare is the Law of the Land.
There have been NO attempts by Boehner to go for the jugular by appointing a Special prosecutor for any of the 4 major Obama Derelictions of Duty.
Boehner made no attempts to stop the illegal changing of the Obamacare Law by the Administration, effectively approving the re-writing of Law by the administration.
No dictatorial Administration could have a more helpful Speaker of the House than John Benghazi Coverup Boehner.
Boehner had one last chance when Reid and Obama refused to negotiate, and thereby Reid and Obama shut down part of the Federal Government.
Then Boehner refused to follow Senator Cruz and Lee, and folded to Reid and Obama like the cheap suit that he is.
Boehner is someone that should never have gone into politics.
Please name one Republican that voted for Obama care?
The proposed GOP replacement will be as expensive, if not more expensive than Obamacare. It will raise taxes on those who get insurance through their employers. And it will bankrupt the insurance companies. Other than that it’s great.
Do you have a link to it?
Please ping to link for that. Thanks!
Yup, I agree that the Democrats got on base.
My observation is that Boehner, McConnell and the rest of the RINO homies just laid down their baseball bats and retired, sobbing and whining to their comfy Neo-Democrat dugout.
Men will fight,
And Dogs will fight,
But a Congressional RINO will never fight.
Well its not as if it is workign or anything... and you can’t fix something this disastrous
Repeal it now BEFORE another $trillion is spent on it
I would rather see Palin/Cruz- for 16 straight years of conservatism
You have a decent idea, absent the ambulance chasing lawyer camped out in the clinic next to the ER, waiting for someone who “should” have been treated at the ER to be sent to the clinic.
We used to call Ask A Nurse for basic triage, but then it became apparent that they were ALWAYS going to recommend going to the ER, we stopped calling them.
Oh, and if you want to “convert” someone from being a leftist, you have to address their assumptions, not their conclusions.
Read Sowell’s conflict of visions for an in depth analysis.
In our community they have such a place, but you must ‘be working’ to go there.....and it's not a walk in clinic. Just like when you ordinarily make an appointment with a Dr. you must also at this place.. If you are a no show you are warned...if you do that again you cannot participate.
They have very defined guidelines you must adhere to. It's “free” to those who have no funds but most seem to find enough equal to what you would pay as a co-pay if they had Insurance, though it's a “donation”. All the Dr's. and Nurses are volunteer.
What I have seen and heard from these folks is the patients have a sense of dignity because they “donate” if they want so don't feel like it's a handout. They comply with the instructions to take the medicine given etc. and few are no shows.
It's worked very well and I was happy to “donate” to this group because it was for those who work and for whatever reasons were unable to pay for medical care. I also learned people do not stay with them long term. Either their circumstances improve or they find work which has health benefits.
I haven't learned what will happen to these places since Obamacare...but I have heard some “free walk in” clinics are closing as ‘public donations have ceased or lowered since contributors believe now Obamacare will cover those people.