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Bill Ayers Fizzles at Dartmouth Debate with Dinesh D'Souza
American Thinker ^ | 1/31/2014 | Ann Kane

Posted on 01/31/2014 6:35:54 AM PST by rktman

The Indian American immigrant vs. the radical white son of a one percenter capitalist was quite a spectacle. The Dinesh D'Souza and Bill Ayers debate on Thursday night at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, and sponsored by Young America's Foundation, hands down showed D'Souza has a broad view of history and a love of America as a "wealth creator." In contrast, Ayers has a narrow progressive view where "we [the people] are the sovereign, collective authority."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ayersvsdsouza; billayers; commies; constitution; dsouza; dsouzavsayers; prariefire
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Another take on the D'Souza vs. airhead from Dartmouth last night.
1 posted on 01/31/2014 6:35:54 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Ayers needs to lay down and die somewhere.


2 posted on 01/31/2014 6:41:08 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Mich Patriot

D’Souza will be a victim of the Chicago revenge soon enough. The government is on his tail for election law violations even as we speak.

And he can’t even leave the country...


3 posted on 01/31/2014 6:43:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Mich Patriot

And take those ridiculous earrings out.


4 posted on 01/31/2014 6:43:35 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Mich Patriot

You think the nellie mandelie funeral was a display of excess for a commie? Hell, pete seeger will probably re-animate to attend billy boy aires “fete”. :>}


5 posted on 01/31/2014 6:46:38 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Ayers needs to lay down and die somewhere.

So I can go and micturate on his grave.


6 posted on 01/31/2014 6:47:56 AM PST by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: Mich Patriot

Keep the faith, the nice part of human nature is we eventually croak and this generation of whip Americans will eventually croak and be gone and the world can aspire to be great again soon.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 6:48:09 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: rktman
thanks, for the post. ;-)

8 posted on 01/31/2014 6:49:03 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: rktman

As usual, communists/socialist/liberals must resort to lies to try to win an argument.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 6:49:10 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: rktman
Good headline would be “Ayers bombs again”.
11 posted on 01/31/2014 6:51:43 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: rktman

Ayers, the scary communist, lies about his age like an over-the-hill beauty queen.


12 posted on 01/31/2014 6:51:55 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: FrdmLvr

No kidding, the earrings were very distracting. Ayers reminds me of Madonna— clinging to youth until it looks silly.


13 posted on 01/31/2014 6:52:38 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: rktman
This 5-minute youtube video features Ayers and Obama.

Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom

14 posted on 01/31/2014 6:53:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: sgtyork
I'd really would like "to preform" while he's still alive.

15 posted on 01/31/2014 6:54:08 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: sgtyork

Not me, Sgt. After leaving the military, I never intend to stand in a long line again.


16 posted on 01/31/2014 6:54:39 AM PST by SAJ
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To: Mich Patriot

Rather, Ayers needs to be stood against a wall and face a firing squad.


17 posted on 01/31/2014 7:02:26 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: rktman

If anyone gets a chance; please watch. It is an eyeopener. What was awesome to me is Ayers did a lot of woulda, coulda, shoulda while DSousa never did. Ayers also read between the lines; but never read the lines.

Hubby never heard of either one asked who the clown was, that is Ayers and said he really liked DSousa.


18 posted on 01/31/2014 7:06:13 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: rktman
D'Souza countered with the unknown fact that 300,000 white men from the north during the Civil War fought against the south to win freedom for slaves.

Unkown because its inaccurate. 300k young white men died freeing the slaves. Millions fought. A bit different.

Makes me wonder if the writer was listening.

19 posted on 01/31/2014 7:09:51 AM PST by skeeter
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To: rktman
The article itself has this incorrect passage:

D'Souza countered with the unknown fact that 300,000 white men from the north during the Civil War fought against the south to win freedom for slaves.

Hardly an unknown fact but approximately 300,000 white men from the North DIED in the Civil War. Over 2 million such men fought in that war.

20 posted on 01/31/2014 7:12:12 AM PST by Blennos
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To: rktman

Bump for home viewing.


21 posted on 01/31/2014 7:14:06 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Blennos

Yup. Some of my upstate NY ancestors fought in every major battle for the north.


22 posted on 01/31/2014 7:14:34 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: JimRed

So Ayers thinks we should “disarm”. Since the vast majority in America rejects his radical agenda, it must only be “reactionaries” whom he wants to disarm.

Well, Comrade Bill, hit the bricks, start banging on doors, and announce “I’m a pro-violence sixties revolutionary, and I’m here to take away your guns. Hand ‘em over! NOW!!!”


23 posted on 01/31/2014 7:14:34 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: rktman

I missed the streamed debate ...and after reading this article am glad I skipped it. coming in the heels of the My State Of My Union Address it might have proved to have been a bit too much.

Thank you for the followup.


24 posted on 01/31/2014 7:17:06 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: MeshugeMikey

That would have been the “mistake of the union” thingy from this past Tuesday?


25 posted on 01/31/2014 7:22:24 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: freekitty

Did you also notice how much of Ayers time speaking was done while looking down at his podium at his notes, while D’Souza rarely looked at his?


26 posted on 01/31/2014 7:25:48 AM PST by RandallFlagg (IRS = Internal Revenge Service)
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To: rktman

Ayers once participated in a liberal cabal meeting where they openly and calmly discussed the murder/execution of dozens of millions of Americans who they thought could not be re-educated in the brainwashing camps they wanted to set up after they succeeded in taking over America.


27 posted on 01/31/2014 7:26:09 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Just in case you’ve never seen it, here’s a link to the weather undergrounds little book from back then. Praire Fire:

http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Prairie-fire.pdf


28 posted on 01/31/2014 7:29:25 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Mich Patriot
Ayers needs to lay down and die somewhere.

No. He needs to be placed against a wall and shot.

29 posted on 01/31/2014 7:34:56 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Irenic

Love the saying:
Mutton dressed like lamb.


30 posted on 01/31/2014 7:39:55 AM PST by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: rktman
D'Souza countered with the unknown fact that 300,000 white men from the north during the Civil War fought against the south to win freedom for slaves.

I hope that is not what D'Souza said.

Over 2 million men served in the Union Army during the Civil War and well over 300,000 died during the course of that war. Of those deaths, approx 2/3 of them were from various "camp diseases" while the other 1/3 were killed in action on the battlefield or died as a result of wounds in battle. Another 200,000+ were wounded in action but survived.

Taken together, there were over 500,000 Union casualties during the war, or approx. 25% of the 2+ million man army.

31 posted on 01/31/2014 7:46:39 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Well they must have died only because they hated blacks and wanted to have them all sent back to Africa. :>}


32 posted on 01/31/2014 7:49:16 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

I hope Dinesh is wise enough to refuse any dinner invitations from Ayers.


33 posted on 01/31/2014 7:49:44 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: peteyd

ha! That’s great...I’ve never heard the saying but it is perfect! I must remember this.


34 posted on 01/31/2014 7:51:10 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: rktman
Key take away from article excerpt, as shown here:
". . . showed D'Souza has a broad view of history and a love of America as a "wealth creator."

On the other hand, Ayers and current political leaders among so-called "progressives" display no such "broad view of history."

Poet Robert Frost once described such characters, but will Americans of 2014 recognize them?

Now would be a good time for conservatives to read, or re-read, Dr. Russell Kirk's "The Conservative Mind, which can be read online, by the way.

In Kirk's last chapter he reviews the works of poets and writers, quoting lines which now seem to bear a strikinig resemblance to the players on the stage in American politics today.

For instance, in Robert Frost's "A Case for Jefferson," Frost writes of the character Harrison:

"Harrison loves my country too
But wants it all made over new.
. . . .
He dotes on Saturday pork and beans.
But his mind is hardly out of his teens.
With him the love of country means
Blowing it all to smithereens
And having it made over new."

The pseudointellectuals who occupy the White House, the media, and much of Congress fancy themselves "intellectuals."

By their words and actions, however, they display a provinciality reminiscent of that Dr. Kirk recalls from an essay by T.S. Eliot on Virgil:

"In our time, when men seem more than ever to confuse wisdom with knowledge and knowledge with information and to try to solve the problems of life in terms of engineering, there is coming into existence a new kind of provincialism which perhaps deserves a new name. It is a provincialism not of space but of time--one for which history is merely a chronicle of human devices which have served their turn and have been scrapped, one for which the world is the property solely of the living, a property in which the dead hold no share."(Bold added for emphasis)

In today's case, the "provinciality" seems to be limited to the "progressives'" dabbling in and discussing the ideas of Mao, Marx, and other theoreticians and believing they can impose those ideas on a once-free people.

America's written Constitution deserves protectors whose minds are out of "their teens" in terms of their understanding of civilization's long struggle for liberty.

It certainly deserves protectors who do not consider it a "flawed" document because it does not permit the government it structures to run rough shod over the rights of its "KEEPERS, the People" (Justice Story).

Blasting it "all to smithereens" seems to be the goal of the current Administration and so-called "progressives" who control the Executive and one-half of the Legislative branch of government.

The Founders' Constitution's strict limits on coercive power by elected representatives are being ignored and disavowed; the free enterprise system which allowed individual citizens to achieve and excel in their chosen pursuits is being co-opted by elected and unelected bureaucrats; and the rights of conscience, speech, and religion are being trampled as we post here.

"The People" should be debating great ideas such as how to preserve liberty, or, in economic matters, the wisdom of the great moral philosopher, Adam Smith's "Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations." Instead, they are being hoodwinked by a president who believes they are ignorant or foolish enough to believe that deficit spending, debt, and government control will lead to prosperity.

When, in 1776, our ancestors felt the heavy hand of the British government "taking" their earnings, regulating their lives, interfering with their beliefs, and asserting coercive control over their actions, they did not waste their time on such trivia.

They wrote great treatises such as "Thoughts on Government" and "Common Sense." They educated their young on the merits of liberty, as opposed to slavery to government, and they did the groundwork which allowed for a written Constitution for self-government to be ratified in the states only eleven years later.

America is about to be bankrupt, both financially and philosophically, and those who have benefited from the Founders' ideas, who call themselves "conservators" (conservatives) of those ideas, should come together to place those ideas before millions of young people who must participate in voting in November on whether they desire liberty or slavery. Women, youth, men, so-called "seniors"--all need to have the choice presented clearly that this election pits the ideas of Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and America's other Founders against the ideas of Marx, Lenin, and Keynes.

There are always "useful idiots." That's what every oppressive regime has relied upon. A "useful idiot" with a big megaphone is more dangerous to liberty than millions of ordinary ones, because of the ability to lull more people into a sense of complacency.

America, awaken! This decades-long battle for your liberty has been engaged. But, for decades, you have allowed the ideas of your liberty to be censored from your nation's textbooks and public discourse.

Our best weapon is contained in our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which leaves all the power in "the People's" hands. Read them, amplify upon their principles and ideas by accessing the Founders' writings and speeches.

For a quick review of those principles and the nation's first 50 years under its Constitution, consult John Quincy Adams' "Jubilee" Address here, or a recent reprint of a 1987 Bicentennial collection of the Founders' principles, here.

James Madison stated: "Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant—they have been cheated; asleep—they have been surprised; divided—the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson? ... the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government, they should watch over it ... It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free."

35 posted on 01/31/2014 8:19:15 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Mich Patriot

Along with his vile wife Bernadine Dohrn.


36 posted on 01/31/2014 8:23:11 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: loveliberty2

I assume your post was your extemperanous thoughts on the issue.

Masterful.


37 posted on 01/31/2014 8:26:21 AM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: rktman

Indeed The Mistake Of The Union. Perhaps the biggest mistake the union has EVER made!


38 posted on 01/31/2014 8:44:42 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: rktman

It was apparent from this debate that William Ayers has only a young teen’s superficial knowledge and understanding of history, has practically not grasp of cause and effect, of economics, or of human nature. That he chose to spend his life defecating on religion and morality he and his wife proved when then cast their lot with bombers and murderers.

His parents, many believe, got him and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn sprung from having to do prison time. The universities department personnel and higher administrators who have given this criminal couple and the other Weatherman university teaching positions just because they are notorious criminals must have their heads up their arses.

One shouldn’t judge someone by how they dress, but truly those earrings that he’s wears into his dotage prove as much as anything how unhappy he really is in his own skin. That unhappiness with himself also accounts for his fixation with homosexuality. He was and is still intellectually and emotionally a yet to mature teenager who read one idea a long time ago and convinced himself he’d discovered America.

In concert with his fixation on homosexuality is a fixation on the Black man as something he himself seems to have yearned to be. These connected strands have played out in his grooming and pushing Obama as his surrogate.


39 posted on 01/31/2014 8:47:15 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Bigg Red
I hope Dinesh is wise enough to refuse any dinner invitations from Ayers.

It was Tucker Carlson who won the dinner with Ayers, and Carlson brought Breitbart along. Ayers didn't directly invite Breitbart. And then Breitbart dropped dead. It's not known if the LA coroner who examined Breitbart (and then dropped dead) also had dinner with Ayers.
40 posted on 01/31/2014 8:49:04 AM PST by Colinsky
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Link to video: http://new.livestream.com/abbson/dsouza-ayers-dartmouth/statuses/40741763


41 posted on 01/31/2014 8:52:25 AM PST by Hulka
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To: Travis McGee

bfl8r


42 posted on 01/31/2014 8:57:21 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: rktman

Bookmark


43 posted on 01/31/2014 9:03:37 AM PST by what's up
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To: RandallFlagg

Yes. He also mentioned the words socialist, etc. He was much more interested in scoring points for himself than anything else. What he had to say was a bunch of nonsense. I feel for the youth as they can not see reality for what it is. Unfortunately they are at an age where they are selfies and no life experience . This makes it very important to teach them the truth; not some hacks vision or fake version of it.


44 posted on 01/31/2014 9:06:45 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: fungoking
Good headline would be “Ayers bombs again”.

Excellent!

45 posted on 01/31/2014 9:07:11 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Colinsky

Yes, I know.

I do not recall seeing anything more about this case, since the assistant coroner dropped dead. Have you seen anything about it?


46 posted on 01/31/2014 10:27:14 AM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Bigg Red

Nothing except “Nothing to see here, move along.”


47 posted on 01/31/2014 10:55:15 AM PST by Colinsky
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To: KC Burke

Thank you.


48 posted on 01/31/2014 12:38:51 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Travis McGee

thank you. Posting to Facebook.


49 posted on 01/31/2014 2:47:41 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: FrdmLvr

Thanks for sharing!


50 posted on 01/31/2014 5:26:05 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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