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Winchester Recalls .22 Long Rifle Ammo WINCHESTER® 22 Long Rifle RIMFIRE AMMUNITION
Truth About Guns.Com ^ | January 30, 2014 | Chris Dumm

Posted on 01/31/2014 2:11:18 PM PST by DJ Taylor

If you were one of the lucky few guys who found any .22 long rifle on the shelves in the last thirteen months, Winchester needs you to check your stockpile. It turns out they double-charged two lots of their M22 plinking/target ammo, and these accidental .22 Super-Duper Magnums can blow your gun up and ruin your chiseled, movie-star good looks. Make the jump for the recall details . . .

From Winchester’s Recall Page:

1/28/2014

Olin Corporation, through its Winchester Division, is recalling two (2) lots of M*22™ 22 Long Rifle 40 Grain Black Copper Plated Round Nose rimfire ammunition.

Symbol Number: S22LRT

Lot Numbers: GD42L and GD52L

Winchester has determined the above lots of 22 Long Rifle rimfire ammunition may contain double powder charges. Ammunition with double powder charges may subject the shooter or bystanders to a risk of serious personal injury and/or death, or cause firearm damage, rendering the firearm inoperable.

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Sometimes, when you miss out, you luck out. I haven't been able to buy any .22 LR for over a year now.
1 posted on 01/31/2014 2:11:18 PM PST by DJ Taylor
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To: DJ Taylor

Seeing that they have no reported injuries, maybe the feds have them all................


2 posted on 01/31/2014 2:15:45 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: DJ Taylor

I wish I could find some .22 LR for a reasonable price. So far everyone seems to want 15 to 20 cents a round. Before Newtown you could get it for 3 cents a round or even less.


3 posted on 01/31/2014 2:17:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: DJ Taylor
Sometimes, when you miss out, you luck out. I haven't been able to buy any .22 LR for over a year now.

I was able to get 600 rounds but it was CCI.

4 posted on 01/31/2014 2:17:35 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: DJ Taylor

double-charged


someone help me out here. There is enough room to put extra powder in there? Or the wrong formulation was put in it that had more explosive power?


5 posted on 01/31/2014 2:18:58 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I bought a couple of cases on sale.

In 1999.

I'm still shooting them. I may never have to buy .22lr again.

Best decision I made that year.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/31/2014 2:20:21 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DJ Taylor

Federal is the way to go. ATK stock is on a tear as well.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 2:21:29 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: samadams2000

ATK also owns CCI and makes gubmint munitions.


8 posted on 01/31/2014 2:21:55 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: DJ Taylor

A double charge would be catastrophic.

When I was around 12, I took a pair of pliers and pulled the bullet out of a Remington .22 LR case. I noticed it was only around two thirds full of powder.

Feeling that Remington had short changed me, I pulled a couple more and dumped enough in one to fill it. I must have been a little suspicious because I used my Brothers Remington model 513 which had dual rear locking lugs instead of my model 514 which just had the bolt handle locking it.

When I fired it, there was no hole in the board I had it pointed at, just smoke everywhere. I had to beat the bolt open and there was no case in the chamber. I have no idea what happened to it or the bullet. I did find tiny pieces of brass throughout the bolt etc. It must have literally turned the shell and bullet into gas. I still don’t know for sure what happened.

Incredibly the old Remington was undamaged. This was not a double charge but about a charge and a half.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 2:24:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: DJ Taylor

I ended up buying a 9mm carbine so I would have a long gun to plink with. I have some .22 ammo but I hate to use it without knowing I can replace it.

I just ain’t right.


10 posted on 01/31/2014 2:30:43 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: DJ Taylor
double-charged SuperDuper .22 Magnums

Does this mean I can use them in my .44 mag?

11 posted on 01/31/2014 2:31:46 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: DJ Taylor

This explains the smokeless powder shortage.


12 posted on 01/31/2014 2:36:40 PM PST by fatboy (This protestant will have no part in the ecumenical movement)
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To: DJ Taylor

Hey they double charge for them so they might as well double charge them.


13 posted on 01/31/2014 2:37:09 PM PST by DainBramage
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To: DJ Taylor
I found 1000 rounds of M22 several months ago, and thought I had won the lottery! (I checked and mine isn't from the recalled batches -- it's from a run manufactured after the recalled batches -- which also suggests that the problem isn't awfully common. But no doubt Winchester will "make good" in any case.)
14 posted on 01/31/2014 2:38:31 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: PeterPrinciple

The amount of powder in a .22 casing is very small. In fact, for world level target shooters it can be a concern about inconsistent burning from round to round even in the bet ammo.


15 posted on 01/31/2014 2:38:44 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Fightin Whitey

Yes but you have to tape two together side by side.


16 posted on 01/31/2014 2:38:53 PM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: DJ Taylor

I bought one brick of Winchester for my Marlin 795 about 2 years ago. Horrible feed and eject problems. Ended up having to use all of it in my Ruger revolver. Imagine how long that took.

CCI and Federal are what I use now.


17 posted on 01/31/2014 2:41:00 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: dangerdoc
I ended up buying a 9mm carbine so I would have a long gun to plink with.

And lucky you, 9mm became overpriced and hard to find.

Get an AK for cheap(er) long gun plinking. They eat cheap steel cased Russian.

18 posted on 01/31/2014 2:44:31 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: yarddog

You disintegrated the bullet.


19 posted on 01/31/2014 2:45:43 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I bought a Sig P220 in .38 Super that had a 9mm barrel included. Great! Be able to practice with readily available 9mm. I was able to find all the .38 Super I wanted through the shortage.


20 posted on 01/31/2014 2:48:13 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DJ Taylor

Thanks for the post. Most of my 22LR are hollow point, but my last 1000 were Winchester 40 grain copper plated round nose, but not black, and were marked S22LRB.


21 posted on 01/31/2014 3:12:03 PM PST by caveat emptor (!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Nearly 20 years ago, a dealer in South Georgia got in a bunch of Ruger model P89s (or some similar model) which had an extra .30 Luger barrel.

They were selling the model with the extra barrel for less than the ones with only one barrel. It did not make sense to me. I would have bought one but for some reason that Ruger model just doesn’t fit my hand at all.


22 posted on 01/31/2014 3:12:45 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: DJ Taylor

double the charge-double your fun


23 posted on 01/31/2014 3:12:54 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I think I saw you that day. You were the one backed up to the loading dock with the flatbed, right? lol

I just went through my inventory. Every brick but one is Federal. The one Winchester is some 36 gr hp, so not the same stuff as in the recall. While I was there, I checked the price sticker on my Federal stock. $16.99 per brick. Not too bad compared to what places are asking for it these days.

24 posted on 01/31/2014 3:18:14 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The price tag at Walmart says $23 for 550 rounds of Federal but I’ve never seen any in stock.


25 posted on 01/31/2014 3:18:19 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I have a 38 special revolver. What is the difference with 38 special & 38 super?

My daughter used one of the Sig P2?? in 40 caliber when she was with the SFPD. Really liked it.


26 posted on 01/31/2014 3:18:53 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: deoetdoctrinae
LOL! A case of .22lr is 5000 rounds or 10 bricks of 500... It's actually a fairly small package.

But it is heavy. I'm talking first-wife heavy... They made the springs sag on the car I was driving when I put those cases in the trunk.

/johnny

27 posted on 01/31/2014 3:22:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The .38 super is an automatic cartridge. It is identical on the outside to the old .38 auto but is loaded hotter. It has just a tiny rim on which it headspaces, at least in older guns. It was determined long ago that auto cartridges which headspace on the case mouth are more accurate so many modern .38 supers do just that.

The .38 special is a revolver cartridge, a very old one.

Interestingly there have been autos chambered for the .38 special and I bet there have been revolvers chambered for the .38 super. The .38 super is a little hotter than the .38 special.


28 posted on 01/31/2014 3:25:52 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Is there a certain model AK-47 a guy should buy or stay away from?


29 posted on 01/31/2014 3:36:09 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Bogey78O
Yes but you have to tape two together side by side

We ready boss.


30 posted on 01/31/2014 3:42:49 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: Sawdring
Is there a certain model AK-47 a guy should buy or stay away from?

Sigh. Yes. But I have forgotten most of what I learned when I was researching AKs. If you have a good local gun shop I'd go there an pick their brains as well as doing online research.

AKs are made all over the place. At the recommendation of a person at my local gun shop I bought (from another individual) a Saiga, made in Russia. Which is a AK platform but with a few small differences. Mostly where the trigger sits in relation to the magazine. Also, Saiga mags are more costly than standard AK mags. After a couple thousand rounds I can say I am quite satisfied with it. Damn thing is like a tank. Such a different animal than the AR.

But you can't beat a reliable carbine that shoots 123 or 154 grain rounds for 25¢. And field strips in 20 seconds (no exaggeration).

31 posted on 01/31/2014 4:13:08 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: DJ Taylor

bkmk


32 posted on 01/31/2014 4:23:36 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: yarddog

Wait until the old boy beside you touches of a 300 Weatherby that had about 10 grains of 2400 under a full load of 4350. Even the Weatherby action couldn’t keep that bolt in. It was ugly, check your equipment folk’s!


33 posted on 01/31/2014 4:31:58 PM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I wish I could find some .22 LR for a reasonable price. So far everyone seems to want 15 to 20 cents a round. Before Newtown you could get it for 3 cents a round or even less.

This will piss you off, but I've come across more than a few people who went out and bought up all kinds of ammo and more than a few firearms when Newton happened, as an investment, knowing there would be a run on things even if Congress/BO did nothing.

Have had a few approach me about buying ammo at 10x the rate from a year or two before.
34 posted on 01/31/2014 4:34:27 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Sawdring

I think the Finnish made Valmet are the nicest AKs ever made. They basically are more like sporting rifles than any other AK that I have heard of.

The Chinese Poly tech are excellent. Probably the Polish and Russian made ones are all good.


35 posted on 01/31/2014 4:34:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

A tiny weld on the lip, and a bit of filing on the catch and AK magazines work just fine in your Saiga.


36 posted on 01/31/2014 4:35:04 PM PST by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
someone help me out here. There is enough room to put extra powder in there? Or the wrong formulation was put in it that had more explosive power?

More than enough room to put extra powder in.
37 posted on 01/31/2014 4:35:09 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Dusty Road

I had a Remington box of 7mm Remington magnum which I used in a model 700BDL.

The first round out of that box locked up the action. I had to beat it open with a block of wood. I phoned Remington to let them know but never could get anyone who cared. I got tired of making long distance phone calls and just quit.

It didn’t do any damage to the rifle but I figured a few more like it and it would. I probably still have what is left of that box somewhere but haven’t seen it in years.


38 posted on 01/31/2014 4:41:45 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Moonman62

I bought 3 bricks of 550 rounds at Walmart back in October. IIRC I paid less than $25 each.


39 posted on 01/31/2014 4:44:30 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: Flintlock
A tiny weld on the lip, and a bit of filing on the catch and AK magazines work just fine in your Saiga.

So I've read. But in the big picture, who cares? I buy 5 mags at the higher price, but they (SGM) perform flawlessly. How many & how often do I have to buy mags? Once I get the number I want, I'm there.

I got some Promags made for the Saiga (cheaper than SGM) and they don't fit as well and I am having feed problems with them - so I'm back to the SGM. I want to know that my mags are 100% reliable. IOW, all of my practice is considered a dress rehearsal. No Rube Goldberging my firearms.

40 posted on 01/31/2014 4:54:11 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Who would of thought then, what we know now.


41 posted on 01/31/2014 5:22:25 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec
Everything I bought for Y2K worked out well for me. The .22lr, the toilet paper (I just started buying again last year)....

Nothing wrong with buying and stocking up when stuff is available and cheap. ;)

/johnny

42 posted on 01/31/2014 5:28:39 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

I reload. Components have gone up but reloading 9mm is still cheaper and easier to find than .22 right now. If I weren’t feeling lazy I’d be down stairs putting some rounds together right now.

I have access to 7.62x39 but it’s not my favorite round to shoot.


43 posted on 01/31/2014 5:35:58 PM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Your talking about the Saiga Ak-47, and not the Saiga 12, right? I wanted to buy the Saiga 12 but decided against it.


44 posted on 01/31/2014 5:38:32 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Sawdring
Your talking about the Saiga Ak-47

Yeah. I have a Savage pump for a shotgun. I wanted simple, idiot proof, tank-like reliability. I was not excited by what I read about the Saiga shotgun.

I have an AR & the Saiga AK. SHTF and I could only keep one it would be the AK. I love the 20 second field strip compared to the AR's cleaning, and its ability to fire cheap ammo reliably and get by with minimal half ass cleaning, among other things. Someone said the AK was designed for illiterate, drunken conscripts who fall down in the mud a lot. That's the carbine for me.

45 posted on 01/31/2014 6:05:33 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I bought all the 22 & .556 my grand kids or I'll ever use long ways back and glad I did; trouble is I never shoot much of it up here hunting in Alaska.

I have bought some recalled ammo from Sportsmans for my 30-378. 180 grain Accubonds chron'ed over 3700 and I had the tightest bolt I've ever experienced. I called in lot number and Weatherby told me to send it to them, don't shoot anymore they said, ha ha.

46 posted on 01/31/2014 6:15:47 PM PST by Eska
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To: Starstruck

Stick with CCI. Winchester .22 is junk


47 posted on 01/31/2014 6:20:33 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The .38 Super is a semi-rimless round, basically a very hot .38 ACP. It will not interchange with the .38 Special, but duplicates the 125 grain loading of the .357 Magnum.


48 posted on 01/31/2014 6:30:49 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: DJ Taylor

we have over a thousand rounds, guess I had better check the boxes.


49 posted on 01/31/2014 6:45:45 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: DJ Taylor

lots of .22 up here in Alberta, should go for a holiday heh.


50 posted on 01/31/2014 6:52:53 PM PST by Bulwyf
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