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Obama Has Made it Impossible for Israel to Strike Iran
American Thinker ^ | jan 28, 2014 | Karin McQuillan

Posted on 01/31/2014 10:48:33 PM PST by Innovative

I called a hardheaded realist, a Harvard trained PhD who has been watching the Middle East professionally for decades, to ask him about Obama's Iran deal. This is what he told me.

It's done. Iran will get a bomb.

They want a bomb and they will not be denied unless somebody stops them. Obama does not want to stop them. He does not want a friendly regime in Iran. He wants Iran as a counterforce to America and Israel. Obama is not a Muslim, but he is a radical. He sees the U.S. and Israel as imperialistic and oppressive. He doesn't like the U.S. military. He'd cut it to nothing if he could get away with it.

We'll have to pull our troops and our aircraft carriers out of the Persian Gulf. We'll lose our ability to protect Middle Eastern oil. The Gulf Arabs will have to cooperate with Iran. So will Europe; they depend on that oil.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Egypt; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; iran; irannukes; iraq; israel; jordan; lebanon; middleeast; nationalsecurityfail; nucleariran; obama; opec; russia; syria; turkey; waronterror
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Excellent article. Hits the nail on the head.
1 posted on 01/31/2014 10:48:34 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative
Absurd. If Israel believes it must strike Iran to insure its survival, it likely will, Obama be damned.

It;s a good thing that I'm not in charge of the situation, because Tehran would no longer be inhabitable.

2 posted on 01/31/2014 11:02:53 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Innovative
He sees the U.S. and Israel as imperialistic and oppressive.

He probably does not like Europeans much either. Can I say the reason? I don't think it has to do with imperialism, as much as it has to do with something else.

3 posted on 01/31/2014 11:06:19 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Innovative

Right.


4 posted on 01/31/2014 11:06:37 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Pox

It;s a good thing that I’m not in charge of the situation, because Tehran would no longer be inhabitable.
***If it were me, Iran would have had a nuclear ‘accident’ a few years ago, right in the center of their nuke project. Let their neighbors clean it up and then see what it really means for them to have the bomb.


5 posted on 01/31/2014 11:07:48 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Mark17

I think it does. One of Lenin’s classic works is “Imperialism.” Obama looks at the world through Marxist spectacles. Therefore he sees a close link between imperialism and capitalism. He would like to see the United States reduced to the same level as Great Britain and France.


6 posted on 01/31/2014 11:11:02 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Innovative

Utter nonsense. Israel isn’t going to sit there cowering just because someone *might* leak info about a pending strike. Further, in all likelihood, the Iran situation is beyond the point where overt airstrikes could do anything anyway. If Israel really needs to do something, they’ll send in covert-ops teams.


7 posted on 01/31/2014 11:14:43 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Innovative

I thought I read fairly recently that Israel had purchased a large number of our current bunker busters.


8 posted on 01/31/2014 11:17:19 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Innovative

Oh, and just to add: the author apparently doesn’t know anything about nuclear weapons. All nukes have tell-tale “signatures” based on the various isotopes present in the aftermath, and their origin can be identified fairly readily.


9 posted on 01/31/2014 11:17:35 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: RobbyS
He would like to see the United States reduced to the same level as Great Britain and France.

I have no doubt that is true. I did not mean it say it was not a factor. I just mean I think there are other factors to the Obungler's thinking, and one other factor in particular. Dare I say it?

11 posted on 01/31/2014 11:27:49 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Innovative

This deal makes it essentially impossible for Israel to strike — not least because the U.S. has Israel under a microscope, by satellite and other technical means, and also with spies in the government and the IDF (Israeli Defense Force). At the first hint that a mission is imminent, the White House will leak it to the Washington Post, the New York Times, destroying operational security. Just as the U.S. leaked about Israel’s strikes into Syria.

If despite this Israel tries to strike, they are the ones who will be viewed as pariahs and warmongers. They could face economic sanctions. Obviously Bibi didn’t trust Obama, but Obama managed to betray him and Israel anyhow.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/01/obama_has_made_it_impossible_for_israel_to_strike_iran.html#ixzz2s3afDcZG


12 posted on 02/01/2014 12:25:28 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Innovative
"Obama is not a Muslim."

Sure, and not a socialist, not a communist, nor a traitor, not a pathological liar and doesn't wish to destroy America...

13 posted on 02/01/2014 12:31:38 AM PST by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: Kevmo

Tehran should have been rendered uninhabitable in 1979.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 12:34:46 AM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: Innovative

This clown says obama isn’t a muslim, BS!

He’s a member of the muslim brotherhood!


15 posted on 02/01/2014 12:55:06 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Pox

It;s a good thing that I’m not in charge of the situation, because Tehran would no longer be inhabitable>>>>>>>>>>>

That makes 2 of us, along with millons of others. The Iranian arsenals made IED componenets and shipped them to Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan and other places. The Iran Revolutionary Guards sent “advisors” to instruct on the assemby and placement of IEDs as shaped charges.These components had Iranian arsenal proof marks on them, YET there has not been one US raid to destroy the production facilities of these bombs since 9/11.

The result is the unecessary deaths of US soldiers and thousands with missing limbs and worse. WHY?

And now people say Iran will have a nuclear bomb and we sit by and allow Obama to create it with them?

Where is the GOP on this issue. Where is Ted Cuz? Obama is indeed a fascist, and why is everyone silent about this fact?

Obama Fascism, good read.:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

I have no doubt that Israel will struike if necessary, but one thing for sure. If Iran gets the bomb, Saudi Arabia already will have it.NOT a good result for humanity altogether.


16 posted on 02/01/2014 12:57:08 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Mark17

I double dog dare you. Because most of us have no clue what you are talking about.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 1:46:09 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Innovative

“Obama isn’t a Muslim...” Let’s see, his father was a Muslim, his mother was a convert to Islam and his stepfather was a Muslim. He attended a Madrassa in Indonesia attended only by Muslims. In an interview with George Stphanopoulos, Obama stated, “...I’ve not been criticized for my Muslim faith”; how many Christians mistakenly refer to their “Muslim faith”? And, in yet another interview by Stephanopoulos, Obama’s pastor of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright, when asked if Obama had converted to Christianity, replied, “Oh, I wouldn’t say that.” No, he’s not a Muslim. “Nothing to see here folks, please move along...”


18 posted on 02/01/2014 2:04:39 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: Mark17

Please do...waiting with bated breadth!


19 posted on 02/01/2014 2:08:50 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Pox

American Thinker never has anything vaguely resembling a positive thought.


20 posted on 02/01/2014 2:25:35 AM PST by Rytas
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To: Little Pig

Israel probably has intell on Obama and his white house, that if released would lower O’s favorability rating by half again, even among American leftists Jews.


21 posted on 02/01/2014 2:39:15 AM PST by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: Innovative
Obama Has Made it Impossible for Israel to Strike Iran

To borrow a line from a TV commercial now running:

"Yeah... Sure he did."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU8PDySrKok


22 posted on 02/01/2014 2:59:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mowowie

Instead of purchased; I think it was that they IMPROVED upon them...


23 posted on 02/01/2014 3:00:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Innovative

Obama may have made it impossible now for Israel to pre-emptively strike Iran in a tactical way to take out a nuke threat. He did not, however, take away Israel’s capability to RESPOND to an overt Iranian threat in a very major strategic way (e.g., the kind where Iran’s leaders will need a few Boxcar loads of 50,000 SPF.)


24 posted on 02/01/2014 3:02:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: F15Eagle

Ezekiel 38:14-22

New International Version (NIV)

14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.

 

17 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You are the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel. At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day:

When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him.

25 posted on 02/01/2014 3:08:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dennisw
...they are the ones who will be viewed as pariahs and warmongers.

This will ALWAYS be the claim; even if Unicorns and Rainbows filled Zion!

26 posted on 02/01/2014 3:10:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Candor7
These components had Iranian arsenal proof marks on them, YET there has not been one US raid to destroy the production facilities of these bombs since 9/11.

We still have, evidently, Jimmae Cahta's mentality.

27 posted on 02/01/2014 3:12:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vermont Lt
I double dog dare you. Because most of us have no clue what you are talking about.

Yes you do. It is very simple. All of you know it already. He is a racist, and that is another reason why he wants to see the US, Israel and Europe cut down to size. I just did not want to say the R word. Make sense?

28 posted on 02/01/2014 3:55:01 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Innovative
CZAR B.O. is merely the Goebbels of the Demcocrap Party. The U.S. foreign policy toward Iran and Israel is part of the very essence of the Democrap Party.

And Reid and his cohorts are getting a free ride. Let's start polling the Senate and the House as separate entities, because they are.
29 posted on 02/01/2014 3:57:23 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Mark17

Agree, Obama is a racist, and the destruction of “white” America vindicates his self loathing. We’re so screwed. At least the RINO Christie is out, I hope the eGOP burn in hell for sucking up to the left.


30 posted on 02/01/2014 4:00:03 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: Innovative

Obama is not a Muslim...

Only GOD knows a man’s heart.


31 posted on 02/01/2014 4:37:41 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: Mark17
I just mean I think there are other factors to the Obungler's thinking, and one other factor in particular. Dare I say it?

Yes.

32 posted on 02/01/2014 4:39:41 AM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: Innovative

I prefer to believe that there has been successful action that has disrupted and delayed the Iranian effort to the point that aerial attack is not necessary.

The possibility or probability of such successful future delaying action is not known but the air attack is still a possibility if it is determined mandatory.


33 posted on 02/01/2014 4:42:45 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Innovative

Iran isn’t just a threat to Israel but Saudi Arabia and alot of other countries in the region. Look for a nuclear arms race in the region.


34 posted on 02/01/2014 5:01:03 AM PST by McGruff (I'm a Conservative. Not necessarily a Republican.)
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To: Mark17

Just SAY it!!


35 posted on 02/01/2014 5:05:38 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Innovative

IIRC this is another major Obama lie. He said 3-4 years ago he would not let Iran have the bomb.


36 posted on 02/01/2014 5:09:31 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Mark17

“...Dare I say it? ...”
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Say what?


37 posted on 02/01/2014 5:13:53 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: morphing libertarian

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/04/biden-obama-prepared-to-do-whatevers-necessary-to-prevent-iran-from-getting-bomb/

http://watchingamerica.com/News/147830/obama-vows-to-destroy-irans-bomb/

http://en.inlightpress.com/en/index.php/5183-obama-vows-before-un-to-halt-iran-bomb.html


38 posted on 02/01/2014 5:19:23 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Ann Archy; Repeal The 17th
Just SAY it!!

I already did. Look at post 28. It is not anything earth shattering. We all know it. Thousands have already said it. Thousands more will say it after me.

39 posted on 02/01/2014 5:38:03 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Repeal The 17th

40 posted on 02/01/2014 5:55:15 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Innovative

Carter gave us Iran as it is currently governed. Now, in his third term, he is giving them nukes.


41 posted on 02/01/2014 5:58:58 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Little Pig

My take on are strikes from Israel:
- air strikes will happen, when Israel thinks it is necessary for safety/survival
- if they have a ‘bunker buster’ they will likely use it
- covert ground operations will also be simultaneously operating
- all strikes against Israel in that timeframe will be countered with overwhelming force
- the Israeli strikes will be highly effective


42 posted on 02/01/2014 6:08:28 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Innovative
Iran will get a bomb.

Been saying it for years on this forum.

43 posted on 02/01/2014 7:02:42 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Innovative

There is much more going on here than just leftist Marxist ideology and hatred of freedom,

Satan = wants Iran to have the bomb because he hates Israel
Obama = wants Iran to have the bomb because he hates Israel

He’s doing the will of his father,

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12

We should be actively doing the will of our Father and binding and rebuking these spiritual powers, he gave us the authority to do so:

“Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.” Matthew 18:18


44 posted on 02/01/2014 7:47:09 AM PST by captmar-vell
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Thanks Innovative.
They want a bomb and they will not be denied unless somebody stops them. Obama does not want to stop them. He does not want a friendly regime in Iran. He wants Iran as a counterforce to America and Israel. Obama is not a Muslim, but he is a radical. He sees the U.S. and Israel as imperialistic and oppressive. He doesn't like the U.S. military. He'd cut it to nothing if he could get away with it. We'll have to pull our troops and our aircraft carriers out of the Persian Gulf. We'll lose our ability to protect Middle Eastern oil. The Gulf Arabs will have to cooperate with Iran. So will Europe; they depend on that oil.

45 posted on 02/01/2014 7:56:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Little Pig
Utter nonsense. Israel isn’t going to sit there cowering just because someone *might* leak info about a pending strike. Further, in all likelihood, the Iran situation is beyond the point where overt airstrikes could do anything anyway. If Israel really needs to do something, they’ll send in covert-ops teams.

Utter nonsense is right. Throughout history, from the time of Moses and Joshua and Aaron the Jewish people have fought fiercely for what they wanted. They were, and still are I believe, one of the most vicious fighting forces on the plant. "Take no Prisoners" gets a whole new meaning when it comes to the Israel nations policy in war. They will not let Iran ever become dominant in the region. It may result in a mushroom cloud or two but they will not hesitate. JMHO!

46 posted on 02/01/2014 9:15:31 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: bert

“I prefer to believe that there has been successful action that has disrupted and delayed the Iranian effort to the point that aerial attack is not necessary.”

You can believe anything you want, such as that the moon is made of green cheese, even though it has no basis in reality.

There is absolutely no evidence to support your “BELIEF” and there is plenty of evidence showing the opposite.


47 posted on 02/01/2014 9:28:13 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

-——There is absolutely no evidence ——

• Several (4?) leading nuclear lead scientists are dead
• There were at least two major explosions at Iranian nuclear and military tunnel facilities
• Stuxnet


48 posted on 02/01/2014 10:05:18 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert

These were attempts but none of them sufficient to stop Iran from getting the bomb.


49 posted on 02/01/2014 10:48:51 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Mark17

Yup.


50 posted on 02/01/2014 2:59:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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