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Knox's fury after being found GUILTY AGAIN
Mail online ^ | 30 January 201 | Lucy Crossley and James Nye

Posted on 02/01/2014 6:55:33 AM PST by yldstrk

Amanda Knox told Italian authorities that 'they'll have to catch me and pull me back kicking and screaming' following her guilty verdict for the murder of British student Meredith Kercher.

Her defiance raises the spectre of a long drawn-out extradition battle after the decision of judges in Florence to overrule her previous acquittal and sentence her to 28 years and six months in prison.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: amandaknox; europeanunion; foxy; guilty; italy; poxyknoxy; rudyguede; unitedkingdom
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Anyone else think this sociopath acts a lot like Jodi Arias
1 posted on 02/01/2014 6:55:33 AM PST by yldstrk
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I think she acts like someone who has been through hell and isn't going to allow herself to be victimized by these anti-American dirt bags again. Good for her. If I had gone through what she's endured, I would be pretty crazed too.
2 posted on 02/01/2014 7:00:56 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: yldstrk

I dunno. It seemed clear that Rudy Guede was guilty and committed the murder. Did Amanda watch, encourage, and or participate? That’s the question.

I’ve heard that the prosecutor was over the top—but that she didn’t help herself by her conduct. It’s a tough call—and there’s double jeopardy to consider, but not in Italy.


3 posted on 02/01/2014 7:02:10 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: yldstrk
Anyone else think this sociopath acts a lot like Jodi Arias

Just a took an internet photo refresher course on Jodi Arias crime scene photos...

They may be sociopaths but way different levels of psycho...Jodi Arias tips the scales...

Amanda Knox may have been railroaded...a case can certainly be made for that opinion...

4 posted on 02/01/2014 7:09:41 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: yldstrk

I’m not to sympathetic to the Italians considering how they allowed terrorists to be released and gave refuge to others that later killed US citizens.


5 posted on 02/01/2014 7:11:09 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: yldstrk

I’ve reviewed this case carefully over a span of several years. What is clear is that Amanda would never have been charged in a US court much less convicted. There is little to no evidence of her involvement. Her media persona is completely irrelevant. The Italian justice system is a mess.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 7:12:13 AM PST by Blennos
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To: yldstrk

I wish the Italians would leave the poor girl alone. It is a good thing that Knox does not sue the ignorant third world justice system in Rome. Seriously they are a complete embarrassment to the World. Thank God for the United States of America.


8 posted on 02/01/2014 7:14:29 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: yldstrk
1) No one wants to see innocent people go to jail.
2) Many of our crime problems are caused by the fact that no one wants to see innocent people go to jail.
3) A lot of guilty people are found not guilty because no one wants to see innocent people go to jail.
4) People are murdered or victimized all the time by criminals who didn't get sent to jail for previous crimes because no one wants to see innocent people go to jail.

Knox may be innocent. But she was found guilty twice. If you want the truly guilty people to go to jail, you may have to accept the fact that the system can never be perfect and that at some point, an innocent person is going to go to jail.

The only way to ensure that no innocent person ever goes to jail is to never send anyone to jail.

9 posted on 02/01/2014 7:16:02 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: yldstrk

If I’d been convicted of a murder I didn’t commit, spent four years in jail while prosecutors leaked every fact, rumor and lie they could to smear me, found myself freed on appeal only to find that the prosecutor gets to keep going after me, I might be a tad upset as well.


10 posted on 02/01/2014 7:17:05 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: F15Eagle

Who could believe anything Rudy G said? It sounded like he was a chronic dirtbag who would have gotten into trouble sooner or later. (Correct me if I’m wrong... I haven’t read about this in a while, but that was the impression what I read left me with).


11 posted on 02/01/2014 7:18:09 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ClearCase_guy
Knox may be innocent. But she was found guilty twice.

And she was acquitted once. Here in the states that ends the process. My understanding is that double jeopardy is a game changer for the extradition treaty with Italy.

13 posted on 02/01/2014 7:25:00 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: vetvetdoug
Or, you could flip your statement around:

'I’m not to sympathetic to the Italians Americans considering how they allowed terrorists to be released and gave refuge to others that killed US Italian citizens.'

I'd certainly have more sympathy for Knox if she hadn't tried to frame an innocent man to direct suspicion from herself. And, of course, there is that old common law nugget that flight to avoid prosecution can be considered as evidence of guilt.

14 posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:20 AM PST by PAR35
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To: yldstrk

What I know from even her own mouth is that she had been using drugs and drinking that night and doesn’t remember a lot of it. How the heck does she know when she doesn’t remember???


15 posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:23 AM PST by Nifster
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To: yldstrk

No. Not in the slightest.


16 posted on 02/01/2014 7:27:30 AM PST by dmz
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To: Mase

Or you could be someone who doesn’t remember because you were too drunk and too drugged to have full recall


17 posted on 02/01/2014 7:28:09 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Blennos

The arrest came not long after the outrage sparked by our seizure of a couple of terror suspects off Italian streets. I think that the arrest and conviction were at least partially retaliatory.


18 posted on 02/01/2014 7:28:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Starstruck

no you are wrong, it is akin to being overturned on appeal here, the prosecutor can refile

legal experts have said there is no double jeopardy in Knox’s case

oh by the way, her footprints were around, she bought cleaning supplies and she lied and implicated a completely removed person. She is guilty as sin


19 posted on 02/01/2014 7:29:22 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Only the most retarded Globalist thinks Knox is guilty.

Those kangaroos in Italy figured they shopped around until they got a guilty verdict

Of course, its double jeopardy on Knox since she had already been acquitted earlier. Sending her back amounts to Treason

And, the Italians do not honor American extradition requests...nor honor US court orders.


20 posted on 02/01/2014 7:31:27 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: SeminoleCounty

that is delusional


21 posted on 02/01/2014 7:32:19 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Mase

She lied over and over again during investigation so why should anyone believe her now? I see her team of lawyers who went on a PR campaign before her trial worked on some people.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 7:33:37 AM PST by kcvl
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To: yldstrk

While I wouldn’t call her “innocent” I don’t believe she was involved with the murder.

She seemed like a stupid young woman who associated with the wrong crowd, played stupid games and won stupid prizes.

Same goes for the victim, Meredith Kercher. If you use drugs with and screw scumbags from third world countries you should consider the possibility that things might not end well.


23 posted on 02/01/2014 7:34:01 AM PST by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: F15Eagle

he said they were involved and then his sentence was cut. the whole timeline is in Wiki.
Italian system is different but he basically pled guilty, no trial, and was sentenced.
they can’t place her or the guy at the scene. DNA was collected with dirty gloves,it’s taped. This is a joke.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 7:35:42 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: yldstrk

Yes, I think she’s guilty as well. I mean what was the knife doing at her boyfriends house? Why was it bleached? Why was her DNA on the handle and the victims DNA on the blade? Why did she blame her boss when he was nowhere near the place? Why was her footprints found with blood? Why did she say the evil police were interrogating her all night when it was only a few hours? Why did she say she was at her boyfriends all night and then he says she wasn’t? Unless all this evidence is baloney, made up, and they make out like the Italian police are out to get her, why because she’s American? Oh so suddenly Italy is like Iran? Out of the millions of Americans who visited Italy in the past 50 years, how many were framed for murder or any crime for that matter by the Italian cops? Oh but suddenly Amanda Knox is solely because they really really hate her, yeah Ok.


25 posted on 02/01/2014 7:36:20 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

If she is so innocent why did she lie and blame an innocent man (her boss) for the murder?! She is a creep and IMO guilty.


27 posted on 02/01/2014 7:37:30 AM PST by kcvl
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To: ClearCase_guy

I read to be convicted of a crime in Italy you have to be convicted twice THEN it goes to appeal. Basically it’s harder to convict someone in Italy than it is in the US because of that. So you could say she has been convicted 3 times


28 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:25 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: PAR35

flight? she was acquitted and came home. how is that flight?
going back for a retrial would be the height of blind stupidity regardless of guilt or innocence.


29 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:45 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: GrootheWanderer

If I had tried to implicate an innocent man as a murderer, I wouldn’t think I had too many ‘rights’...

“According to the detectives, Knox told them she had met Lumumba at the basketball court at 8:30 pm, before going with him to Via della Pergola 7 where Lumumba had committed the murder, thereby implicating herself as his accomplice. Knox signed a statement, written by the police in official Italian, which said: “I have a hard time remembering those moments but Patrick had sex with Meredith, with whom he was infatuated, but I cannot remember clearly whether he threatened Meredith first. I remember confusedly that he killed her.”...

What sort of person does that?


30 posted on 02/01/2014 7:38:49 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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To: Mase

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-498853/The-wild-raunchy-past-Foxy-Knoxy.html


31 posted on 02/01/2014 7:39:52 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Blennos

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-498853/The-wild-raunchy-past-Foxy-Knoxy.html


32 posted on 02/01/2014 7:40:13 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Italian courts are joke. The Romans have been trying and convicting innocent people for over 2000 years. It’s time to leave her alone.


33 posted on 02/01/2014 7:40:15 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: napscoordinator

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-498853/The-wild-raunchy-past-Foxy-Knoxy.html


34 posted on 02/01/2014 7:40:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Starstruck
True that. I'm not comfortable with the concept of convictions in absentia, and a criminal justice system given the power to repeatedly prosecute a case until achieving the desired results. As to her guilt or innocence, who among us knows? Ms. Knox, however, would do well at this point to shaddupaboudit, and fade away. Public statements insulting the SPQR will simply ensure their continued pursuit.
35 posted on 02/01/2014 7:41:30 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Double jeopardy laws are there for a good reason in the USA.
Italy should have gotten it right the first time if she is guilty.
36 posted on 02/01/2014 7:42:29 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: yldstrk
"Amanda Knox told Italian authorities that 'they'll have to catch me and pull me back kicking and screaming' following her guilty verdict for the murder of British student Meredith Kercher."

The first rule of Fighting Extradition Club is don't talk about...

Oh never mind...

37 posted on 02/01/2014 7:42:38 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: yldstrk

Yeah that’s what I read, they used luminol and found her footprints in the blood. Hello, how did they get there? Did someone take her shoes and slap them around the floor? But she says she was at her boyfriends all night - which by the way he denies - so does this mean she was barefoot or has an extra pair of shoes “the real killer” used?


38 posted on 02/01/2014 7:42:53 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Mase

some statements on here seem to be made without a whit of knowledge.anyone reads the case can see this is about prosecutors trying to make themselves right regardless. Same as we get here all too often.


39 posted on 02/01/2014 7:43:45 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: yldstrk
no you are wrong, it is akin to being overturned on appeal here, the prosecutor can refile

Actually no, when its overturned on appeal here there is no trial involved. Judges look at the evidence presented in the first trial then overturn the result. They do not acquit the defendant as they did in the second Italian trial. If they did there would be no retrial.

40 posted on 02/01/2014 7:44:10 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

you are splitting legal hairs

it was an intermediate court that reversed

even Alan Dershowitz from Harvard says no double jeopardy and that she will be extradited

poor little sociopath

thought she was so cute no one would touch her


41 posted on 02/01/2014 7:47:11 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Buy the ticket, take the ride.


42 posted on 02/01/2014 7:47:32 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Nifster

pot, it was marijuana

she remembers


43 posted on 02/01/2014 7:48:50 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Only the most retarded Globalist thinks Knox is guilty.

I think she's guilty but I never realized I was a retarded globalist. Thanks for letting me know.
44 posted on 02/01/2014 7:48:56 AM PST by slumber1 (Fortune favors the bold!)
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To: PowderMonkey
As to her guilt or innocence, who among us knows? Ms. Knox, however, would do well at this point to shaddupaboudit, and fade away.

Agree.

45 posted on 02/01/2014 7:49:29 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: wiggen

I think he didn’t plead guilty


46 posted on 02/01/2014 7:49:53 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kcvl

She was also interrogated with no lawyer present...with no interpreter (although Knox spoke some Italian).... and the Italian legal system is a joke

Italy does not honor court orders from the US...and a number of US children, abducted to Italy by non custodial parents, are not turned over to their custodial American parents. Italy is a great place to take a kidnapped American child...they will not turn the child over

That is pretty basic int’l law...and Italy is one of the worst in the world

I will repeat...only a retarded Globalist believes the Italian justice system over Amanda Knox. I guess the Knox case exposes the hate and contempt some Americans have for their own country


47 posted on 02/01/2014 7:50:33 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: ClearCase_guy

What was it Robert Bork (a Federal Judge and former military officer) said? If guilty he’d prefer a jury trial, if innocent, a court-martial. Juries act on prejudices and perceptions as much as on fact.


48 posted on 02/01/2014 7:51:11 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: yldstrk

Nope —

I stand with the jury of 8 intelligent people who found her innocent:

In October 2011 they were released after almost four years in prison following their acquittals at the second level trial.

In an official statement of their grounds for overturning the convictions the judges wrote there was a “material non-existence” of evidence to support the guilty verdicts, and that an association among Sollecito, Knox, and Guede to commit the murder was “far from probable”.[2][3][4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher

“As a father, I have a real feeling for the Kerchers’ pain,” he told The Guardian.

“But you need conclusive motives to condemn, as well as conclusive evidence.

“There were lots of mistakes by the forensic investigators that robbed the case of any certainty.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/8807662/Amanda-Knox-juror-lack-of-motive-sank-case-for-Meredith-Kercher-murder.html


49 posted on 02/01/2014 7:54:27 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: yldstrk
it was an intermediate court that reversed

Reversed wasn't the term used. Acquitted was. Legal hairs are split all the time.

Alan Dershowitz from Harvard says no double jeopardy and that she will be extradited

Not going to happen.

50 posted on 02/01/2014 7:55:43 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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