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The House GOPís incredible, amazing discovery: Most Americans arenít entrepreneurs
Washington Examiner ^ | January 31, 2014 at 4:18 PM | Byron York

Posted on 02/01/2014 9:07:42 AM PST by Olog-hai

At the House Republican retreat in Cambridge, Md., Thursday, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor called on GOP lawmakers to take a new approach to the nation’s economic anxieties. […]

Perhaps the most remarkable thing about Cantor’s presentation was that it included a recognition that in the past Republicans have focused more on the nation’s employers than employees, have talked about small business owners and entrepreneurs to the exclusion of the far greater number of Americans who don’t own their own businesses. […]

What was extraordinary about that portion of Cantor’s presentation was not that it was out of place—it was entirely on-target for a political party hoping to win elections in 2014—but that it came six years into the economic downturn, and decades into a protracted decline in middle-class standards of living. Could it actually have taken Republicans that long to realize they should address such problems, especially when Democrats have made huge gains appealing directly to middle-class voters?

Apparently, yes. And even now, not all House Republicans are entirely on board. …

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: byronyork; entrepreneurship; liberalagenda; rinos
The House GOP doubles down on liberal populism and York rejoices. That is how it looks to me at least . . .
1 posted on 02/01/2014 9:07:42 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Actually most Americans are entrepreneurs but have been beaten into submission by a crushing load or regulation and taxation. This is compounded by the fact that we face unfair competition from corporate cronies who are often propped up by our tax dollars.


2 posted on 02/01/2014 9:11:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Olog-hai

You would think that, in an era of collapsing employment rates, someone could make the case for employers.


3 posted on 02/01/2014 9:12:38 AM PST by marron
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To: Olog-hai
especially when Democrats have made huge gains appealing directly to middle-class voters

This is simply not true. Look at the exit polls of 2012. Romney won those making 50-100k by 8 points.
4 posted on 02/01/2014 9:15:09 AM PST by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: cripplecreek
Funny how the lefties are so unwilling to level that playing field, to rescue a phrase they're fond of from an abusive relationship.
5 posted on 02/01/2014 9:18:15 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I wonder if, in the long view, this won’t be to modern politics what the Kansas-Nebraska Act in 1854 was in that era. A divisive issue, where the new upstarts (the Republican party then, and the Tea Party now) - oppose the entrenched powers but because they are on the right side of the issue, prevail in the end. If the parallel holds, perhaps this division will serve to drive the discussion in the 2014 and 2016 elections, just as the Lincoln-Douglas debates over slavery vs. choice resulted in the election of Lincoln in 1860.


6 posted on 02/01/2014 9:18:53 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Olog-hai

Cantor is full of it. The GOP sold out a long time ago to corporate America.

“What was wildly wonderful for Corporate America was hell on Middle America. But the Republican Party had made its choice. It had sold its soul to the multinationals. And as it went along with NAFTA, GATT, fast track and mass immigration, to appease Corporate America, it lost Middle America.” [Pat Buchanan]


7 posted on 02/01/2014 9:23:33 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ex-snook

Just like the Democrats. How funny.


8 posted on 02/01/2014 9:26:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I think of my great great grandfather who made furniture for himself and to sell during the long cold winter nights.

He owned the land, he cut the trees, he sawed the lumber, made wooden furniture, and sold the product all without any interference from government.

Imagine the imposed costs of trying to do the same today.


9 posted on 02/01/2014 9:26:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: marron

That might send power back to the people. The Uniparty can’t have that, you know.


10 posted on 02/01/2014 9:27:13 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: cripplecreek

A kid can’t even sell cupcakes without a local “Department of Health” shutting her down. That’s the big Declaration of Dependence that big government is trumpeting . . .


11 posted on 02/01/2014 9:28:38 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Funny how the lefties are so unwilling to level that playing field, to rescue a phrase they're fond of from an abusive relationship.

I don't miss an opportunity to point it out to them. I tell them that the tea party would give them more of what they want than either Democrats or GOPe republicans.

If the American people were truly free to earn as they wish, I suspect a lot on the left would drop their marxist tendencies.
12 posted on 02/01/2014 9:33:27 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

I’d say you are exactly right. In fact there must have been a time when ALL were entrepeneurs! Of course it depends on definition but to me it means taking the initiative to find a way to support yourself without needing someone else to agree to employ you so if you lived alone in the world you would either take that initiative or die. By that definition any squirrel who goes out and finds himself a nut tree is an entrepeneur. Every cave dwelling family that ever hunted and gathered were entrepeneurs. Which came first the entrepeneur or the employee? It had to be the entrepeneur, no question about it. It seems to my simple mind that entrepeneurship is the NATURAL state of man and we have been duped into believing otherwise.


13 posted on 02/01/2014 9:41:27 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Olog-hai

the left is in the process (and has been for quite a while now) of abandoning the union members and lower class whites.

There is an opportunity here for the Republican party to grab those voters.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 9:41:48 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

They’re not going to do it by doubling down on liberalism. Principles do count.


15 posted on 02/01/2014 9:45:55 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: marron

Why does there need to be a distinction between employers and employees? Smaller government results in a larger and growing economic pie. Lower taxes and fewer regulations help everyone. Both Republicans and Democrats seem to want to pick winners and losers. That is NOT the American ideal. The American ideal is a government that is essentially blind to whether one is rich or poor, black or white, famous or unknown. What laws exist are applied equally to all without respect to one’s status. The rich man can no more use government to oppress the poor than the poor can use government to rob the rich. We can’t achieve the ideal of course, but we should strive to reach it.


16 posted on 02/01/2014 9:54:13 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s a sickness in American culture. As a people, we’re irrationally, over concerned about safety and security. There are regulations for everything, because there’s always some risk, no matter how small, that must be mitigated.

“There oughta be a law!” is a common refrain in America. The problem is every law has (or had) some rational basis, no matter how small, at some point.

Let’s consider your example. How do we know the furniture your grandfather made was properly tested not to collapse when someone sat on it? Someone, somewhere has probably been injured or killed by a collapsing chair. If testing can save even one life, then a law mandating testing is justified. If you’re against that law, then you’ll be accused of not caring if someone is injured or killed.

That is why there is a law, rule or regulation for nearly everything in America today. The sad part? People seem to assume problems are solved simply by virtue of laws being passed. Gun control laws, in particular, are passed for that reason. It’s completely irrational, but some people honestly believe they’ll be safer if law-abiding people register or turn in guns.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 10:05:28 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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To: cripplecreek
Actually most Americans are entrepreneurs but have been beaten into submission by a crushing load or regulation and taxation. This is compounded by the fact that we face unfair competition from corporate cronies who are often propped up by our tax dollars.

I can't tell how many times I have contemplated to strike out on my own to use my skills and abilities to start my own business...to get the hell out of the corp culture..

The thought of going broke and starving to death trying to do so is not appealing exactly for the reason you stated...

18 posted on 02/01/2014 10:08:55 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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19 posted on 02/01/2014 10:21:21 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: marron
Cantor talks out of his ass. If he had an ounce of concern for the working man he wouldn't be at a retreat pushing amnesty for millions of illegals. He should know that the employees usually do better when the employer is doing better. They are both connected to each other.
20 posted on 02/01/2014 10:24:30 AM PST by peeps36 (I' Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Olog-hai
"Just like the Democrats. How funny."

I didn't look at it that way but you're right.

21 posted on 02/01/2014 10:28:54 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: peeps36

Fire Boner. Fire Cantor. Fire McDonalds. Fire Ryan. Fire...Everyone.


22 posted on 02/01/2014 10:29:24 AM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: nhwingut

You are correct.
It’s the entitlement army that is in control.
Growing larger every day.


23 posted on 02/01/2014 10:32:31 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: cripplecreek

The left is the left. They call Christians “extreme” merely for believing in God, but their false god Marx is infallible to them.


24 posted on 02/01/2014 10:42:36 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Good afternoon.

The left is the left. They call Christians “extreme” merely for believing in God, but their false god Marx is infallible to them.

You would think from all of their rhetoric about science that the left/Marxists/progressives etc. would a least consider, test, whatever, Pascal's Theorem. Right?

The democrat convention in Charlotte 2012 denied G-d three times. Could be a problem, a big problem for the rank and file democRATS..

5.56mm

25 posted on 02/01/2014 10:50:13 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

They were forced into accepting Georges Lemâitre’s theories on the origin of the universe when red shift proved the universe’s expansion; IIRC, before that, the godless “science-ists” thought the universe’s existence to have been eternal.


26 posted on 02/01/2014 10:55:45 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
”We shouldn’t miss the chance to talk to these people,” Cantor continued, according to the source, “which is why we will present and pass our plans to relieve the middle class squeeze.”
That’s an epiphany that’s been a long time coming in the GOP. Now if the talking heads on the Right would figure this out and start talking like paychecks are more important than dividends and stock values to most Americans, we might be able to swing some voters.
That’s a great soundbite. The real issue is the extent to which the existence of paychecks depends on dividends and stock values. Or said differently, the absence of dividends and stock values presages the absence of paychecks. Democrats like to pretend that businesses can just arbitrarily “give America a raise” without negative side effects. In reality such a process implies first the absence of dividends, then the decline in stock values, then the end of paychecks. That is why it makes sense to concern yourself with the effect of regulations on dividends.

Of course there is also the small matter of how it is possible to provide for future retirement, or exist in retirement, if there is no benefit to savings and investment. A war on the profit in investment is a war on the prospect of future profit in investment - and, ultimately, a war on hope. It’s why the New Deal exacerbated the Depression, which lasted until the start of WWII caused FDR to yield on “Dr. New Deal” in favor of “Dr. Win-the-war” - which happened long before Pearl Harbor.

Dr. Win-the-war began initially with the British doing things like commissioning the design/manufacture of the P-51A and any other armaments they could buy in America, but accelerated after the Fall of France in May 1940, when the British sent plans for the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine which became the in-line design for front-line fighter use by America, the Whittle jet engine, the cavity magnetron radar tube, and everything else they hoped to get produced in America. FDR recruited William Knudsen, who had built Chevrolet from an also-ran to the equal of Ford, and he managed the 18-month transition to a wartime economy, which entailed infrastructure buildup and machine tool production.

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27 posted on 02/01/2014 12:37:28 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism¬Ē is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: ex-snook
A lot of Buchanan's underlying points are absolutely wrong.

Nobody wants to say this in today's political climate, but the biggest factor in the decline of America's middle class is that the definition of the "middle class" has changed dramatically. Today's "middle class" has a standard of living that would have been the envy of royalty even as recently as 30-40 years ago.

Our "middle class" is disappearing because its expectations have become very much "upper class" in almost every respect.

28 posted on 02/01/2014 12:42:14 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Sorry I think Buchanan is correct. Middle class is not voting GOP with today’s under/unemployment.

“What was wildly wonderful for Corporate America was hell on Middle America. But the Republican Party had made its choice. It had sold its soul to the multinationals. And as it went along with NAFTA, GATT, fast track and mass immigration, to appease Corporate America, it lost Middle America.” [Pat Buchanan]


29 posted on 02/01/2014 12:53:06 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Alberta's Child

No.

Are you saying that we should render our expectations so low as to be fine with living in utter squalor?


30 posted on 02/01/2014 1:03:21 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Entrepreneurs?” Many people would make useful products if not for the anti-competition regulations, and the laws that divide and destroy families.


31 posted on 02/01/2014 1:45:33 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Olog-hai

Eric Cantor may have just tapped the “money spot” that may lead to a political “boom”.

When Republicans talk, they tend to reach small business owners because those small business owners know Conservative and liberal policies affect them through first hand experience. And unless you have that experience, you are going to be just another person looking for a way to make money, period. So while the job providers have all the insider know how, the workers for them do not (nor may not care). This places workers in a strange position because in their ignorance, and their will to make money, they will gravitate towards anyone who they think will make them more money. This is where class warfare gets “populism” and people feel as though they are going to get something at the expense of “the greedy.”

What I find occurring on a daily basis is that many young people who need jobs are having tremendous difficulty right now trying to find a good one because of their state of mind, but they don’t realize that their state of mind is the root cause of their problems.

For example, some of my friends who voted for Barack Obama expected a lot from him. But the problem is, he is a socialist. Not realizing what that is, they expected him to help the economy and award them jobs. But no, that is capitalism, so in essence you have a population of people who are voting for socialists, and ideally hate capitalism, but subconsciously know (by simply living in America) that they need capitalism (not realizing that this is so), and are tremendously upset when they pursue capitalism.

And if you want your own place, want to produce your own income, and start a family, then those ambitions alone qualify you as a Capitalist.

It is too unfortunate that an entire population of people have been conditioned to accept the Marxist’s definition of capitalism. This is how the mainstream views it, because that perspective is the most common and communicated.


32 posted on 02/01/2014 1:46:16 PM PST by Making_Sense [Rob W. Case]
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To: Olog-hai

most Americans are not homosexual either, but they get focused on a lot


33 posted on 02/01/2014 1:47:36 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Olog-hai

What is “utter squalor” to you?


34 posted on 02/01/2014 2:11:59 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Olog-hai

Eric Cantor wants illegals to work in banks, armored trucks and gain clearance to use explosives at mines.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/294057-sessions-border-security-provisions-in-immigration-bill-weaker-than-proposal-debated-in-2007

“They’ll be able to immediately apply for much better jobs than they currently have,” Sessions warned of illegal immigrants set to join the pathway to citizenship. “Maybe they were working at a restaurant part time. Now they’re going to be truck drivers, heavy-equipment operators competing at the factories and plants and we’ve got an unemployment rate that’s very high.”


35 posted on 02/01/2014 2:34:17 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: nhwingut

“Look at the exit polls of 2012. Romney won those making 50-100k by 8 points.”

That should have been much higher than that; he was running against a communist exposed as such by his first term. The fact is that when Americans are able to get into that income range, forces are scrambling furiously behind the scenes to either send the work overseas or bring foreigners here to do it for less. I don’t know what that demographic thought Obama would do about it, but they clearly didn’t think Romney had any answers.

At this point it seems much of the middle class is supporting the communist because they fear they’re going to end up making $8 an hour in the near future as well (needing food stamps and such), regardless of their current income. These job losses are leaving scars that won’t soon heal, and it is showing in elections.


36 posted on 02/01/2014 2:34:29 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: ex-snook
Today's middle class is comprised of a disproportionate number of government employees and "private-sector" employees in industries that rely heavily on government spending.

I don't believe these people were ever really Republican voters at all.

37 posted on 02/01/2014 3:06:24 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

The question really is, what are “upper-class expectations” to you? I don’t know too many middle-class folk that eat beluga caviar from gold plates on a daily basis, after all; no royalty even from the middle ages is envying them.


38 posted on 02/01/2014 6:02:39 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Get rid of everything in your life that didn't even exist fifty years ago, and you'd be shocked at how much bullsh!t you have in your life that does nothing but drive up the cost of living for a "middle class" existence.

Today, you could probably live comfortably with the standard of living commensurate with a "middle class" family in the 1960s with a job that pays about $10 per hour.

39 posted on 02/02/2014 8:01:14 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Bingo!

Plenty of guys can’t even hunt or fish without thousands of dollars worth of engines and electronics. They’re as stressed out ‘relaxing’ as they are at work.


40 posted on 02/02/2014 8:05:05 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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