Skip to comments.Over and drought: Why the end of Israel's water shortage is a secret [desalination creates surplus]
Posted on 02/01/2014 9:46:38 AM PST by grundle
Remember all the years of being told to conserve 'every drop?' Well, times have changed: Today, Israel has so much affordable water, it can offer to export it. So why is this achievement being kept so secret?
In ancient times and even during the years of the British Mandate (1917-1948), the shortage of water in Palestine, as well as among its neighbors in the Middle East, had a decisive influence not only on the areas economic development, but also on the political strife between Jews and Arabs. Technology has changed all this. Now, the ability to produce all the water that's needed, whether for human consumption or for agriculture, may soon change our way of life and perhaps even, if our neighbors agree, bring peace closer.
There is now a surplus of water in Israel, thanks largely to the opening of several new desalination plants - and the development of natural-gas fields that can power them cheaply. Since water is the source of life, the well-known Israeli imperative to save every drop should still be respected. But the price the Israeli population is charged for its water supply should be reduced by more than the 5 percent drop announced on January 1 of this year.
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California doing something smart? you’ve got to be joking.
Also, you can turn the Arabian peninsula into a rain forest and they’d still be the same old assholes.
My first thought also. But we have the EPA....Enviro Police Activists
You can look for those plants to become terrorist targets.
Of course, the stupid Moslems would rather drink water re-cycled through their kidneys than recognize the treasure they have in their midst of a technologically advanced, well-organized society in their midst. Like Obama, Holder and their ilk, nursing their grievances counts for so much more than progress.
But people always say "You can look for those to become terrorist targets". I just never understand that kind of thinking.
We’re building a bullet train from FR to Bakersfield instead.
Strange, but this story brought to mind Frank Herbert’s “Dune.”
I thought California was doing this? I know they took sewer water and cleaned it up and made it “drinkable”....in El Cajon in the 1960’s (it was awful.)
I remember reading about or seeing a timeline of the historical climate change in this area and how it affected the ancient biblical history. Interesting that they now have natural gas and desalination. I hope that these two things plus hopefully more independence of this country from foreign oil will see a way out of the 66 year old crisis in this area. Actually, it’s been a crisis longer than that but that is the age of Israel.
The Kinneret’s (sea of galilee) water level.
Due to lack of rain not much of a climb. I was really hoping they’d get enough rain so the water level would top Deganya Dam this year.
Pray for more rain for Israel.
Wellllll, the EPA might have something to do with it.
Desalination has turned Israel’s water shortage into a surplus. Why hasn’t California done the same thing?
You know the simple one word problem—enviros
Here are some of their objections:
1. producing natural gas requires fracking
2. burning the gas produces CO2
3. building plants on the coast threatens their view of the ocean
4. some shrimp or fishies might be sucked into the plants and threaten them with extinction.
5. The limo liberals in places like Marin county use water shortages to limit housing development and keep the riffraff out
The mother’s milk of Palestine is hatred.
God foretold what we witness today -
I will make rivers flow on barren heights, and springs within the valleys. I will turn the desert into pools of water, and the parched ground into springs. I will put in the desert the cedar and the acacia, the myrtle and the olive. I will set pines in the wasteland, the fir and the cypress together, so that people may see and know, may consider and understand, that the hand of the Lord has done this, that the Holy One of Israel has created it.
In days to come Jacob will take root, Israel will bud and blossom and fill all the world with fruit.
The Lord will surely comfort Zion and will look with compassion on all her ruins; he will make her deserts like Eden, her wastelands like the garden of the Lord. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and the sound of singing.
If you use google earth do a search for Israel.
Take the time slider and move it you can see how green parts of the country have become.
“But people always say “You can look for those to become terrorist targets”. I just never understand that kind of thinking.”
Agreed. Amazingly enough, America once built the Hoover Dam (and it didn’t take a generation). We don’t do that anymore.
Because Moon Beam Brown needs to get the high speed rail system up and going remember when you get in office you have to pay back your backers.
The mafia never died it just moved up the ladder and now it’s at the top.
Getting high speed rail is much more important than water, jeezz...
I don’t see a solution until the end of times.
“He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone’s hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers.”
“Desalination has turned Israel’s water shortage into a surplus. Why hasn’t California done the same thing? “
Pfffft. Emulate plucky, intensely clever, and successful people living in a desert? Why do that when it’s easier to steal money from people who feel guilty for having the good fortune to have more than they need, using the power of government, raking off plenty in the process and helping perpetuate your term in office?
(Thorium fueled) nuclear power plants COULD produce all the electricity needed for al the world’s cities while ALSO producing hundreds of millions of gallons of desalinated sea water PLUS tons of salt for use AND keep thousands of acres of greenhouse space producing food ,flowers,or medicinal plants.Hot water from these plants could heat much of a city as was once done when the first power plants were located close to their customers. Cincinnati had a power plant on its riverfront;so they could have used waste heat to warm most of the commercial district.
The unbridled power allowed the EPA and the ability of crazed enviromentalists to sue has cost untold trillions of $$$ and resulted in lower standards of living for millions.
Of course the OPEC people have to wonder at the willing suicide of the West.Not that they don’t quietly celebrate OPEC’s accumulation of wealth and power.
Their is NO good reason the United States should be dependent on any nation much less those hostile to our freedom.
The plant in Carlsbad will open in 2016 and provide up to 10% of the countys water. So we need a few more, as does the rest of the state. San Diego county is the driest along the coast and we have little of our own supply.
It has been 14 years since they sought approval, the private company and the city. They got all the permits, including coastal commission. It took 10 years; then the same groups which opposed the plant during the administrative process tried to stop it in court.
Instead of the judge deferring to the 10 years of administrative processes, he had a hearing and it stung it out another 2 years.
We are literally paralyzed in California. No new freeways, no tracking, no new power plants; so if someone builds a desal plant, its a miracle. But they need to get started.
“Why hasn’t California done the same thing? “
Maybe it would have been a good idea, but Fukushima has put an end to that.
There likely won’t be much surfing in California once people start hearing about this.
Who wants to save California?
To be fair, a train from and to nowhere is waaaaaaaaaaaay more important than water.
Natural gas? And it’s economical electric generation problem too.
Because the politicians in CA are too stupid to live.
When we lived in Japan (1988-2002), we were able to buy grapefruit at the local market which were imported from Israel. Amazing little country!
...and Jesus wept.
When we went to Jerusalem, we stayed a bock from the Yehuda Market. The abundance of products there, all grown in Israeli, was very impressive. We ask went through the Arab neighborhood near the Damascus gate to the Old City. Really pathetic and dirty offerings.
THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE...IGNORANCE IS A CHOICE
"A full scale attack by EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers to take control of all water from any source whatsoever is under way. What these agencies are attempting is an end run around water and land rights. These agencies are constructing regulations and fictional jurisdictional control. We cannot depend on our courts or the federal government to reign in and control these agencies as they are both privately owned corporations that masquerade as public service agencies. While congress may express their concerns about the police state actions being constructed, they have no authority or power to dictate what these agencies do under private contract law."
Genesis 16:12 refers to “Ishmael”, ancestor to Mohammed and the generations of Islam we now deal with.
The rivalry of two siblings is the curse of our jhadists hatred toward Christaians/Jews...Ishmael and Isaac.
Desalinization may soon get much better. Low maintenance nanoscale filters have been developed that use just a quarter of the energy used by reverse osmosis.
Basically they are vast numbers of tubes only wide enough to pass single molecules of water, and the molecules smaller than water are either non-toxic or volatile.
The end result is water even purer than distilled, because even air gasses have been separated out.
Thanks for post 27.
Israel didn’t invent trickle irrigation or hydroponics, but has worked on both more than anyone; at one time Israel was a net exporter of water insofar as it grew fruit for European produce markets. As the population grew and especially after the 1994 peace treaty with Jordan (which requires Israel to make up a certain amount of water shortfall in Jordan, a shortfall engineered by everyone’s favorite hereditary dictatorship in Syria), Israel reduced its fresh fruit exports and looked for sources from outside the country.
Israel would have even more water, but also supplies water to the Gazan parasite:
Since 1967 there had been talk about trading the Sinai for a canal to bring Nile water to Israel — an idea condemned by Sudan, which threatened rather unrealistically to cut off Nile water to Egypt. The so-called Peace Canal was one of the big projects during the Mubarak years, and that led to a large conduit getting dug under the Suez Canal and an open-air canal heading east along the Med coast toward El-Arish.
Israel Desalination Enterprises Sorek Desalination Plant in Palmachim is to provide up to 26,000 m³ of potable water per hour (2.300 m³ p.a.). At full capacity, it will be the largest desalination plant of its kind in the world.
The Hadera seawater reverse osmosis (SWRO) desalination plant in Israel is the largest of its kind in the world. The project was developed as a buildoperatetransfer by a consortium of two Israeli companies: Shikun and Binui, and IDE Technologies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination#Israel
Last year I heard about an oil discovery near Monterrey. I’m not holding my breath while waiting to see if California will allow drilling there.
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