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‘Young Guns’ special looks at the dangerous intersection of children and firearms
NYD News ^ | 1-31-14 | Sasha Goldstein

Posted on 02/01/2014 10:49:51 AM PST by smokingfrog

Every hour, a child is hospitalized because of a gun.

Every other day, a child is killed by gunshots.

The staggering statistics, compiled by ABC News, are part of a new “20/20” investigation into youngsters and guns — and how to prevent them from shooting themselves or their peers.

An early preview of “Young Guns” on ABC’s “Good Morning America” shows how curious kids will find, and play with, guns if they find them.

After telling two young boys to yell for an adult if they find a gun, a child psychologist leaves a playroom where the youngsters’ every move is caught on camera.

The boys quickly find the gun — but they don’t call for help. Instead, one picks up the real, unloaded gun and even points it towards his face.

“I’m touching it,” he says, as if taunting. “I’m pulling it (the trigger). See how many times….”

The other boy then picks up the gun, takes fake aim and pretends to dry-fire the weapon.

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1 posted on 02/01/2014 10:49:51 AM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

Leaving children alone in a room with ANY dangerous weapon is criminally negligent. It figgers that a “child-like” psychobabblist would do that.


2 posted on 02/01/2014 10:53:20 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: smokingfrog
Here's the Christian's rabbi teaching gun safety to a child!


3 posted on 02/01/2014 10:54:45 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: smokingfrog

The govt needs to protect us. Otherwise women and minorities will be hardest hit. (/s)

The country is becoming weenified.


4 posted on 02/01/2014 10:54:50 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: smokingfrog
unfortunately their definition of a "child" is up to ~age 23...
5 posted on 02/01/2014 10:54:54 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

6 posted on 02/01/2014 10:55:36 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 43north

The Dana Loesch video is great.


7 posted on 02/01/2014 10:55:55 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

8 posted on 02/01/2014 10:56:24 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: smokingfrog

A child is now defined as anyone under the age of 26.


9 posted on 02/01/2014 10:56:36 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: smokingfrog
The problem is not the guns, it's the kids. They're a bunch of young communists. They have no sense of "mine" and "thine." Any kid who goes rummaging through someone else's belongings, even their parents' belongings, needs a good application of a razor strap on their posterior.
10 posted on 02/01/2014 10:57:31 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

11 posted on 02/01/2014 10:58:40 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

12 posted on 02/01/2014 10:59:17 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: smokingfrog

I grew up around firearms. I shot firearms from an early age. I knew and was educated to respect firearms and other people. The old ways were best. Today, there is no education to speak of regarding the use of firearms only a media which prints words (opinions) that firearms are bad and all people are bad. Could not be further from the truth. But today is today and there is a truth called the Second. No wonder the media and politicians teach firearms are bad. They fear an armed population as well they should. Long live Freedom and the Second.


13 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:00 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: smokingfrog

The ABC libtards would not use any stats that showed the vast majority of gun deaths of individuals less than 19 is due to thug bangers and other feral youts who inhabit those great socialist utopias known as urban areas.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:01 AM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Should all school children be required to take a gun safety course?
http://politix.topix.com/debate/4477-should-all-school-children-be-required-to-take-a-gun-safety-course?vote=1


15 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:18 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: smokingfrog

Maybe the cowardly SOBs should talk about guns and gun safety instead of being propaganda artists for the left!


16 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:23 AM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: smokingfrog

Every hour, more than 100 innocent babies are slaughtered by U.S. Government approved abortionists.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 11:00:23 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: smokingfrog
Looks like we need to ban motor vehicles and swimming.
18 posted on 02/01/2014 11:01:01 AM PST by oh8eleven (claimer)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

19 posted on 02/01/2014 11:02:40 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 43north

SPOT ON!!! And a HUGE majority of those occur in places like Chicago and NYC where they have the most restrictive gun laws!!!

But, hey, it’s just another ABC (Always Being Communists) hit job!


20 posted on 02/01/2014 11:08:54 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: smokingfrog

How many are 14 to 19 yearold gang bangers? HMM....


21 posted on 02/01/2014 11:11:06 AM PST by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: smokingfrog

And injury/death rates of kids & cars? We gonna ban cars?


22 posted on 02/01/2014 11:15:54 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: smokingfrog

I prefer to teach the children .... Hope I do not have to but will if God Wills It ... Bad Company ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5GXbk58R0


23 posted on 02/01/2014 11:16:52 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: DeWalt
How many are 14 to 19 yearold gang bangers? HMM....

You've hit the nail on the head. A large majority.

24 posted on 02/01/2014 11:17:14 AM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: DeWalt

You hit the nail on the head. The vast majority of these “children” being killed and injured with guns are resulting from the violence of youth gangs.

Very few are from situations in which a child finds a gun and plays with it.

But liberals play fast and loose with the truth.

I would welcome an ABC study showing how many “children” are involved with the gangs, and that gang gun violence was the cause of their injuries/death, as opposed to children finding a gun and playing with it.


25 posted on 02/01/2014 11:18:07 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: smokingfrog
1. In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
2. In 1881, a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
3. In 1963, a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
4. In 1975, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
5. In 1983, a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
6. In 1984, James Huberty a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonald's restaurant.
7. In 1986, Patrick Sherill a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
8. In 1990, James Pough a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
9. In 1991, George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s Cafeteria.
10. In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas laboratory.
11. In 1999, Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
12. In 2001, a left wing radical Democrat, fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the United States.
13. In 2003, Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed-Martin plant.
14. In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech University.
15. In 2010, a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
16. In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes; went into a Colorado movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
17. In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
18. In 2013, a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a Connecticut school.

Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.

Conclusion: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

26 posted on 02/01/2014 11:23:49 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: smokingfrog

Will they even attempt to explain how young boys used to carry their guns to and from school many years ago and no one thought it was a big deal, and how and why it is different today (like how the “news” media and Dems have made everyone “afraid” of guns), or with they ignore it altogether?


27 posted on 02/01/2014 11:24:53 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: MasterGunner01

has my vote!


28 posted on 02/01/2014 11:30:08 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: smokingfrog

In the early 2000’s, when I was living in the Washington, DC area, I was invited to be a panelist on a local TV show, hosted by a couple of local TV personalities, about guns and children.

When my turn came, near the end of the hour, having done my research, I spoke rather eloquently (I thought) about the advantage of using the NRA Eddie Eagle program to educate children re: gun safety.

Parenthetically, I was in the minority re: children being taught gun safety. Most of the folks in attendance spoke of the dangers of kids & guns and their fears.

IIRC, the program ended on time, we were thanked for our participation and we all went home. I later found out that the program was never aired! Instead, they convened a pre-selected panel and re-shot it, with an entirely different anti-gun slant.

The Eddie Eagle program is a good one: http://eddieeagle.nra.org/


29 posted on 02/01/2014 11:48:01 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: no-to-illegals

Ditto...and hold public office.


30 posted on 02/01/2014 11:51:09 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

They would kill me and my family.


31 posted on 02/01/2014 11:51:46 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: smokingfrog

The best response to this would be to do an Internet video to explain that most minors killed by guns are affiliated with gangs, and are killed by adult gangsters.

Most of the video can show such young gangsters in their natural environment: hanging in packs, making gang signs, acting tough, doing the knockout game, etc.

I would finish it up by just listing all the known street gangs in the US, by state. Quite a list.

According to the FBI, there are “33,000 violent street gangs, motorcycle gangs, and prison gangs with about 1.4 million members are criminally active in the U.S. today.”


32 posted on 02/01/2014 11:55:43 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: MasterGunner01
hold public office.

To clarify MasterGunner01, I do serve but not in congress.

33 posted on 02/01/2014 11:57:12 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MasterGunner01

More clarification MaterGunner01. An Oath Is Forever!!! My Son took his. I took mine seven layers down. An Oath Is Forever!!! But never took an actual Oath but I have One!!!


34 posted on 02/01/2014 12:01:17 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: smokingfrog

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/blog/2013/09/29/how_common_are_child_gun_accidents_666.html


35 posted on 02/01/2014 12:06:23 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Sparticus

According to the CDC, from 1999-2010, there were a total of 35,760 deaths related to firearms in the 0-19 age range. Of these, 32,398 were ages 14 through 19.

Now understand that this includes suicides, but still, that’s almost 91%. In fact, more than half, over 18,000, were either 18 or 19.

If you’re just looking at homicides, there were 23,016 for the time period in the 0-19 range. 20,845 were in the 14-19 range, again, about 91%. Again, its the same thing with 18 and 19 year olds accounting for just over half the total.

http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html


36 posted on 02/01/2014 12:09:03 PM PST by VOR78
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To: smokingfrog

Drug dealing, O`bozo loving, 24 year old thugs are not “chilrin”.


37 posted on 02/01/2014 12:18:44 PM PST by nomad
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To: MasterGunner01

I don’t know about the others but I’ve just read “The Destiny of the Republic” by Candice Millard about the Garfield assassination. Charles Gitteau was a Stalwart Republican. The fact that you got that one wrong leads me to wonder about the rest of your list.


38 posted on 02/01/2014 12:20:59 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: JoeFromSidney

No, the problem isn’t the guns or the kids. The problem is lib parents who want to be their kids’ BFF rather than parents. When parents fail at teaching morals and values, this is what happens.


39 posted on 02/01/2014 12:24:00 PM PST by bgill
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To: Zhang Fei

You don’t leave loaded guns laying around a house full of kids for the same reason you don’t leave matches, lighters, plastic bags, prescription drugs, poisons, etc. sitting around. Sooner or later, something bad will happen. Recently there was a kid that died from eating a clothes washer detergent packet.


40 posted on 02/01/2014 12:30:56 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Ah, the children.

And those scawy guns that make loud noises.

As opposed to bathtubs which kill many more people every year and don’t make loud noises.


41 posted on 02/01/2014 12:39:19 PM PST by lurk
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To: Lisbon1940

Guiteau is the correct spelling. After the shooting, as he was led away to jail, he reportedly yelled out: “’I am a Stalwart of the Stalwarts! I did it and I want to be arrested! Arthur is President now!’”

The Stalwarts were the corrupt wing of the Republican Party led by Roscoe Conkling. Garfield’s VP and successor, Chester Arthur, was Conkling’s underling. They favored political patronage and were bitterly opposed to Garfield’s commitment to civil service reform.

Garfield could have been a great President but served only four months, and just two months before the shooting. He might have survived the bullet but ultimately succumbed to sepsis brought about by his doctors’ negligence in disregarding antiseptic procedures.


42 posted on 02/01/2014 12:39:37 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: smokingfrog

How many children die from car accidents, pool drownings, abuse and and neglect and any number of other causes? A lot more, but that’s not newsworthy when you have an agenda.


43 posted on 02/01/2014 12:47:57 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: MasterGunner01
To: smokingfrog 1. In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States. 2. In 1881, a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound. 3. In 1963, a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States. 4. In 1975, a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States. 5. In 1983, a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States. 6. In 1984, James Huberty a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonald's restaurant. 7. In 1986, Patrick Sherill a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office. 8. In 1990, James Pough a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office. 9. In 1991, George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s Cafeteria. 10. In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 co-workers in a Texas laboratory. 11. In 1999, Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service. 12. In 2001, a left wing radical Democrat, fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the United States. 13. In 2003, Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed-Martin plant. 14. In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech University. 15. In 2010, a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others. 16. In 2011, a registered Democrat named James Holmes; went into a Colorado movie theater and shot and killed 12 people. 17. In 2012, Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis. 18. In 2013, a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a Connecticut school. Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. Conclusion: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

I propose adding this question to Form 4473: "Are you now, or have you ever been a registered Democrat"
44 posted on 02/01/2014 12:54:40 PM PST by rickomatic
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To: Lisbon1940

The doctors killed him. We need universal background checks for all doctors, & they should be posted on the internet.


45 posted on 02/01/2014 12:58:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Also it is a good idea not to probe with fingers inside a bullet hole.


46 posted on 02/01/2014 1:02:42 PM PST by Lisbon1940
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To: smokingfrog

Is this one of those stats where a “child” is a 26-year old gangbanger?


47 posted on 02/01/2014 1:09:15 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: smokingfrog

Most of those “children” are adolescent and adult gangsters in big cities.


48 posted on 02/01/2014 1:46:53 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: smokingfrog
I saw ads for this piece of s**t phony hit on the 2nd Ammendment all week on ABC.

I'm so sick of the MSM propagandists using psy-ops on the American people to help the would-be tyrannical government disarm us, so that they can control us.

They want to scare poeple into informing on their neighbors as to weather they have a firearm in the house or not- hence all the fear mongering and phony statistics.

( Of course they included teenagers and even young adults ,up to 20 yrs old, to bolster their BS statistic that a "child" is injured by a firearm every hour. What about gangs?-Not a word about them.)

Hey ABC-you bunch of lying sacks of crap-The number one cause of child injuries/deaths is auto accidents. When are you going to report on that, and call for all people to have their cars confiscated by the government?

Many children are killed in swimming pools-ban them- Have the government order people to cement their pools over.

All bicycles should be banned and confiscated too.

What about household cutlery and household cleaning products? How many children are injured or killed by these?

How about playground equipment? Children are injured by it every year. Obviously according to ABC- it should be removed.

What are people feeding their children? Obesity kills. Maybe we need refrigerator police to go from house to house to make sure the children are being fed properly?

America-How do you know what's in your neighbor's house, if you send your child to play there?

Are the knives, scissors, and cleaning products locked up? What will stop your child from heading straight for the Drano an rat poison?

And what snacks are your neighbors serving your children?

What if they contain transfats, and/or sugar?!
(Panic- Running in circles wildly waving arms in the air!)

Save the children ABC! Save us!(/s)

49 posted on 02/01/2014 1:52:37 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Pajamajan
Ammendment = Amendment (Pardon my atrocious lack of zpeling ability-forgot to hit the "zpel check".)
50 posted on 02/01/2014 2:00:05 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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