Skip to comments.California Legalized Selling Food Made At Home And Created Over A Thousand Local Businesses
Posted on 02/01/2014 12:06:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
A government official appears at a mans door. The man has been breaking the law: He has sold bread baked at home.
This isnt a page from Kafkait happened to Mark Stambler in Los Angeles.
For decades, Stambler has followed traditional methods to bake loaves of French bread. The ingredients are simple: distilled water, sea salt, wild yeast and organic grains. Stambler even mills the grain himself. To make it easier to steam loaves, he built a wood-fired oven in his own backyard. Stamblers loaves came in first place at the Los Angeles County Fair and the California State Fair.
Soon after that, Stambler got the idea to expand his hobby into a home business, which became Pagnol Boulanger. Word of mouth spread. In June 2011, The Los Angeles Times profiled Stambler and his bread in a full-page feature.
Unlike his bread, that profile was bittersweet. He was busted the very next day. As he described it, the health department descended like a ton of bricks on the two stores that were selling my bread they could no longer sell my bread.
An inspector from the health department even showed up at his doorstep to make sure no bread baking was taking place. For the next 18 months, Pagnol Boulanger was forced to go on hiatus....
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You need too keep your mouth shut. His waterloo was when the newspaper ran the story about him. Never do anything to attract the attention of Government Bureaucrats if it can be avoided.
A rare situation where CA law has superseded FL law in liberty, with the latter being more restrictive. In FL, the limit is $15K, inspectors can come into your home if there is a complaint lodged, and no internet sales are allowed.
Good thing he didn’t refuse to bake bread for a gay wedding reception then he’d be in REAL trouble.
And these laws are the corporations’ way of squashing would be competitors.
Point taken, but how feasible is that when you have a popular product? your only other choice is to sell the stuff in dark alleys like bootleg gin during prohibition: “psst, buddy you got any bread?” “whats the password?” “pierre sent me”
Need a bounty on Bureaucrats.........
Yep, nor wholesale sales either.
You will be surprised how effective word of mouth is, but you are correct.
It is relevant to point out the reason such regulations have been put in place. Here’s a partial list of food poisoning outbreaks in the US since the 70s.
If we went back into the late 1800s and early 1900s the list would be much longer and deadlier.
Our food supply is so safe nowadays we tend to take it for granted. But people used to die all the time from contaminated food. That they don’t today is very largely because of food safety regulations.
Not trying to say that every regulation is necessary or properly enforced, only that bacteria are amazingly sneaky and can be very deadly. There are very good reasons to make food production for sale to the public not something that is undertaken casually.
password? “I’m a little flaky croissant”
Very true, and most bureaucrats are inherently lazy also.
Utterly ridiculous. Food was not mass produced before the 20th century. For mankind’s entire history food has been homegrown. The only difference today is the government protects food monopolies.
What’s the password? “take your bread and baguette”
Utterly ridiculous. Food was not mass produced before the 20th century. For mankinds entire history food has been homegrown. The only difference today is the government protects food monopolies.
They also fund them with EBT.
And the unions' too.
So what is the reason for the sales caps??? Have any good reason to justify that?
As I said, I don’t claim that any and all food safety regulations make sense. Only that food preparation and sale is not a particularly good venue for a completely free market.
Sounds good on the surface but I suspect it is
to please the illegal alien faction.
Keeping the rules minimal, un-intrusive, and common sense is the best way to go.
Freepers should pass the word that in California, vets pay no health fees, per State law.
Maybe Chloe Sirling can convince the Illinois legislature to allow her to bake cupcakes at home.
If she lived in California (of all places) she would have the LIBERTY to bake cupcakes at home without the Illinois Food Nazis shutting her down.
I haven’t paid dime number one for anything medical since I went over 50% service-connected disabled and that is in all 57 states.
Exactly. We pass a Latino man selling fruit and vegetables from his truck on a vacant lot nearly every day and I remarked to my wife “if I tried that they’d shut me down in 20 minutes” and you know it’s true.
So you'd be willing to surrender precious liberty to punish some illegal aliens?
I didnt see any bread on that list.
Let me turn it it around. Why do people like you have to
assume such ridiculous notions? I’m saying the liberals
who call the shots don’t care two dead flies about capitalism.
If it wasn’t for the fact that tons of their illegal pals were
engaged in such enterprises they would be against these
home kitchen businesses.
Thanks for posting. I’ll check our state laws. My daughter’s incredible cherry chutney has a definite market, if she chooses to sell it.
A woman in CA started selling her sweet/spicy “Mendocino Mustard” to friends and it turned into a significant business. Delish, and profitable too. And, come to think of it, I maKe a spice blend that turns burgers into International delights. Everyone asks for the recipe perhaps they will PAY.
Let’s all make a little income on the side and donate a significant percent to FREE REPUBLIC.
LOL. I wouldn’t trust those sharks. We’ll start small, work out the problems, and make enough, a little family business, who needs the aggravation of BIGTIME?
Reminds me of a fellow who self-published a book that caught on, he had so many orders, his entire family had to quit their jobs and become the shipping department. Finally he sold rights to a major publishing house, who sold millions of copies, and the family got back to normal. A new, wealthy normal.
I’m sorta surprised that this thread didn’t get more capitalist-leaning answers. Lots of complaints, few ideas about how to make it work. Hmmmm.
In some cases the bathtubs were being used as bathtubs and for cheesemaking as well. Some people claimed that that is what gave the cheese its special flavor.
If he were smart he’d have ‘bartered’, or ‘suggested donation’. Use the stupid law to its extreme and shut down the nanny State at every turn possible.
Would you have voted against this law?
Isn’t it interesting that almost all of those illnesses were from eating industrially processed food and virtually none of them were from home baked breads, pastries, cookies, donuts, cupcakes....
Overall, I would support any law that advances capitalism but
I would surely be ready to distinguish the difference between
my love for capitalism and freedom with another’s political posturing.
You don’t think those Democrats use this to demonstrate their
love for capitalism while they work to legislate businesses out
Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
I should have clarified - I meant to say that in California, if you are a vet and you open a business that requires health department fees to operate, you are exempt.
Wait until the feds step in and say that they’re affecting interstate commerce.
Have you been made sick by any of the products?
Because to tell you the truth, most of the cases of food poisoning I’ve ever heard of came from government-inspected facilities. (Restaurants, etc.)
In my experience, food-handling/health inspectors are among the most arrogant, self-important, and corrupt government officials anywhere. (And that’s saying quite a bit.) I’ve never met a single one that I’d trust to walk my dog.
Without a doubt, Mexicans in CA have been selling home-made tamales (and good ones, too) since Montezuma was a niño...
I've never met a bureaucrat that I'd trust to to scoop up after my dog...
They sell them in Idaho also. Yesterday in the parking lot of the grocery store, I saw a lady and her kids selling tamales from a cool box in the back of her car. It's "under the table". No signs, no business license, no income reported, no sales tax, etc.
Well, go back to detective school and learn how demrats give
themselves cover while they tax and regulate businesses out of
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