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State Will No Longer Send Water Down From Northern Calif.
CBSLA.com) ^ | February 1, 2014 7:14 AM

Posted on 02/01/2014 12:58:53 PM PST by BenLurkin

Drought conditions are getting worse by the day in California and experts say the average resident is going to see the changes.

In the latest move by officials, the State Water Project announced Friday that it won’t send any more water down from Northern California, something that hasn’t been done in more than five decades.

The news comes in the middle of one of California’s driest winters on record and after two dry years that have depleted reservoirs.

Officials say the Water Project’s decision to hold back supply is necessary to save water in the state.

Gov. Jerry Brown declared a drought emergency Jan. 17 and directed state officials to take all necessary actions to prepare for the drought conditions.

“We can’t make it rain, but we can be much better prepared for the terrible consequences that California’s drought now threatens, including dramatically less water for our farms and communities and increased fires in both urban and rural areas,” Brown said. “I’ve declared this emergency, and I’m calling all Californians to conserve water in every way possible.”

Brown called on Golden State residents to voluntarily reduce their water usage by 20 percent.

“This takes a coming together of all the people of California to deal with this serious and prolonged event of nature,” he said.

Brown also directed state agencies to use less water and hire more firefighters. In addition, the Democratic governor has initiated a greatly expanded water conservation public awareness campaign.

In addition to the SWP, Southern California residents can get water from Colorado River, the LA Aqueduct in Owens Valley and groundwater, which provides most of the water supply.

Surprisingly, the drought may be good news to some. Prospectors are making their way into the hills and mountains to see if the lack of water will make it easier to find gold grains and nuggets.

Northern California is typically believed to be prime gold country, but Curt Timmons of Digger Mining and Supply in Baldwin Park says a little time in the desert, Big Bear or the San Gabriel Canyon could yield some sparkly dividends.

“You can pretty much go to the bottom of these creeks with a shovel and have easy access to these gold-bearing materials,” Timmons said.

With water levels in the state’s rivers so low, gold diggers can now get to places that haven’t been touched by man in perhaps more than a century.


TOPICS: US: California
KEYWORDS: califdrought; california; desalination; drought; israel; watershortage

1 posted on 02/01/2014 12:58:53 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

“We can’t make it rain,...”

A new mantra.

Well, why not, we can legislate everything else.

Jerry tried, but Calif dried.


2 posted on 02/01/2014 1:01:39 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Scrambler Bob

High speed rail will fix everything .....


3 posted on 02/01/2014 1:02:14 PM PST by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: BenLurkin

Um — Hetch Hetchy….


4 posted on 02/01/2014 1:02:25 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: BenLurkin

Then WE in So Cal are not sending OUR taxes to you guys. Like they own the water???!


5 posted on 02/01/2014 1:03:03 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: BenLurkin

“Whiskey’s for drinkin’. Water’s for fightin’.”


6 posted on 02/01/2014 1:08:56 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: BenLurkin

California needs to look at some of Hawaii water solutions. Water from he sea


7 posted on 02/01/2014 1:10:31 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

You’d think they would have done this a LOOOONNNGGG time ago!


8 posted on 02/01/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: BenLurkin

The swamps and all the swamp creatures in Northern California must be preserved at all cost!

Let them live by their policies..... Bend Over Southern California!!


9 posted on 02/01/2014 1:13:18 PM PST by tired&retired
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To: BenLurkin

Raise the price. People will conserve where it suits them.


10 posted on 02/01/2014 1:16:34 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: hoosiermama

Believe it has been tried, but the expense is prohibitive.


11 posted on 02/01/2014 1:16:37 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012: NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Born to Conserve

They do raise the price in drought, then they never make the price cheaper in good times.


12 posted on 02/01/2014 1:18:36 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
How will Hollywood's Progs water their tiny lawns?...
13 posted on 02/01/2014 1:29:23 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: Churchillspirit

Israel has a surplus of fresh water. Turns out, being located next to a large body of salt water has advantages, if you know what you’re doing.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 1:30:37 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Desalination thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3118224/posts


15 posted on 02/01/2014 1:31:42 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: 4Liberty
Well,that is where I am and the answer is you get fined for using too much water or watering the lawns during the day
The city will send you a letter telling you an area has a leak going and they will be correct.
16 posted on 02/01/2014 1:33:33 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Also why not build reservoirs?
17 posted on 02/01/2014 1:34:59 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BenLurkin
They never should have sent any.

Southern Cal was offered a chance to become a partner in the building, turned it down and then sued.

Let them dry up.

18 posted on 02/01/2014 1:35:32 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: BenLurkin

Now all those people in San Fransisco will have to go to Safeway to get their veggies and fruit.


19 posted on 02/01/2014 1:40:45 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SkyDancer
Now all those people in San Fransisco will have to go to Safeway to get their veggies and fruit.

Nah, the place is crawling with nuts and fruits.

20 posted on 02/01/2014 1:43:47 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: BenLurkin

When is California going to come up with a couple desalination plants?


21 posted on 02/01/2014 1:47:46 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ClearCase_guy

http://cognitiveliberty.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/628x471-1.jpg


22 posted on 02/01/2014 1:50:48 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

LOL’s


23 posted on 02/01/2014 1:58:23 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: BenLurkin
I bet the Algorians are wringing their hands with glee.

GLOBAL WARMING will be the mantra....

Never let a crisis go to waste.

24 posted on 02/01/2014 1:58:45 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: BenLurkin

“...the State Water Project announced Friday that it won’t send any more water down from Northern California...”

Hmmm, time for Southern California to announce it will no longer send tax money to Sacramento! FUJB...FUNP...FUBB...


25 posted on 02/01/2014 2:12:08 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Churchillspirit

When you compare the cost of desalination against the cost of transporting water long distances, desalination isn’t cost prohibitive. The further you have to pipe (or ship) water, the more economic desalination becomes.


26 posted on 02/01/2014 2:13:53 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: BenLurkin

This isn’t going to end well for Moonbeam and his cadre of progressives.


27 posted on 02/01/2014 2:17:52 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Scrambler Bob

During the ice ages, the climate belts collapsed from three to two. Instead of temperate, tropical and polar bands, there was a tropical equator and everything else cold.
During a temperate period, the winds blow Pacific moisture onto the mountains, creating a temperate, Mediterranean climate.
There are climatic studies that say that during an ice age, the winds blow primarily from the East Coast inland. California dries out, while the interior up to the Rockies is wetter.
The drying out of California could easily be a reversion to Ice Age conditions. And all the polar vortices support that conclusion as well.


28 posted on 02/01/2014 2:22:39 PM PST by tbw2
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To: bigfootbob

I hate to say it

I think our Hippie guru Governor Jerry Brown going be reelect some in SO CAL are are just sheeps


29 posted on 02/01/2014 2:22:50 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: BenLurkin
Conservation is pointless when there is nothing to conserve.

The dumb arses in Kalifornia should have, years ago, started building desalinization plants. Instead they're wasting good taxpayer bucks on "renewable energy". Today, still, there is no mention of the future of water in the state.

Another reason to get the hell out.

30 posted on 02/01/2014 3:46:37 PM PST by Banjoguy (The Mayor of San Antonio is the smoothest liar I have ever seen.)
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To: BenLurkin
"Mr. Gittes...you're looking for water in the wrong place."


31 posted on 02/01/2014 3:52:17 PM PST by moovova
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To: A CA Guy

I live in the SF Valley and I am going to water the heck out of my lawn and flowers if I choose. Let them raise price as needed, and I will make the allocation decisions with MY earned dollars, not Comrade Jerry Brown!


32 posted on 02/01/2014 4:06:51 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: bboop

The next 1%ers.


33 posted on 02/01/2014 4:36:23 PM PST by sasquatch
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To: BenLurkin

Barbara Streisand’s water bill is about $2,000.00 a month.


34 posted on 02/01/2014 4:56:20 PM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: BenLurkin

To paraphrase the late Sam Kinnison, “Move to where the f’n water is!!!!! Oh!!! Ohhhhh!!!!!!!!”


35 posted on 02/01/2014 4:59:48 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Yea, but remember, California is like a bowl of granola.... What’s not fruits and nuts is flakes...


36 posted on 02/01/2014 5:04:56 PM PST by ssstewar
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To: BenLurkin

Kalifornia could send a few million illegals out of the state until it rains.


37 posted on 02/01/2014 5:10:47 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Qiviut

As will millions of illegals granted amnesty.


38 posted on 02/01/2014 5:29:58 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: BenLurkin

I hope the delta smelt aren’t hurt by drought conditions. We all know the perfect flow of water has been maintained forever and ever until manmade global warming.


39 posted on 02/01/2014 5:31:16 PM PST by Organic Panic
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40 posted on 02/01/2014 5:32:23 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: A CA Guy

Might help if they stopped dumping millions of acre feet for the smelt. Just sayin.


41 posted on 02/01/2014 6:01:40 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: BenLurkin
This is just like the ‘Seahawks ban Giants Fans’ type of story, sure, it is factually accurate, but the state water project has cut off ALL WATER SUPPLIES in the state.

http://www.water.ca.gov/swpao/docs/notices/14-02.pdf

As you can see in the above PDF, every water contractor in the state just got told to pound sand and they'll only get residual water not delivered from previous years.

And this is far from the first time that such little allocations have been made. In fact, the Los Angeles Metropolitan Water District will get more water this year than they were initially allocated in 2009, 2010, & 2011.

And is it for a utter lack of water? Nope, it is a lack of water that meets the environmental mandates from the courts for the preservation of Delta Smelt and other supposedly endangered species.

Just...tired of the misleading articles. To take the title and content of this article, you'd imagine that the state drew a line and said ‘no one south of this gets water.’ Instead they said no one gets water (unless they have left over from last year...)

42 posted on 02/01/2014 7:47:55 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 4Liberty
We did have two weeks of weather in the 80s and 90s just now. Went down into the 60’s, so I cut the water down to 1 minute a station and that is all that is needed.

I don't flood anything, I do respect that there is only so much water and why dump a ton of it into the sewer for no reason?

I'm with you, I think Brown started the mess with CA by adding unions in state government. Now we owe them a few hundred billions to pensions? I kind of want to tell them all to kiss my @ss regarding that. Why overpay those hounds?

43 posted on 02/01/2014 9:03:28 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Kozak

State does a lot of stupid stuff for sure.

There has also been a massive downturn for the negative in the economy.
Delivery folks just ran into a major depression regarding work. What does that mean? Nothing good IMO.


44 posted on 02/01/2014 9:04:40 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: tbw2
There are climatic studies that say that during an ice age, the winds blow primarily from the East Coast inland. California dries out, while the interior up to the Rockies is wetter.
The drying out of California could easily be a reversion to Ice Age conditions.

Interesting, and sounds likely. It's been very warm and dry this past year on the San Francisco peninsula, more so than I've seen it over the last few decades. Normally we get fog rolling in to SF from the ocean all the time with very few weeks without fog. Now we've been getting fog-less months with very few weeks of fog, with warm air flowing from land toward the ocean. It's been like L.A. weather here in S.F. during our winter months, very warm and sunny. Only two rainy days (of light sprinkles) during the last few months.

45 posted on 02/01/2014 9:42:17 PM PST by roadcat
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To: SevenofNine

I wasn’t thinking of reelections...


46 posted on 02/01/2014 10:22:06 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Born to Conserve

Raise the price. People will conserve where it suits them.


And charge everybody the same price.


47 posted on 02/02/2014 8:41:43 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

“And charge everybody the same price.”

Price plus “shipping”.


48 posted on 02/02/2014 9:42:46 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

Yes, charge a market price based on the cost to deliver (which may be more for small residential consumers, etc.)

Basically, let the local communities (and farmers) bid for the water, and deliver it to the highest bidders.

The bizarre thing is that this right-wing free-market notion actually leads to maximized conservation that should please the drip-worshipers!


49 posted on 02/02/2014 9:53:01 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("Income Inequality?" Let's start with Washington DC vs. the rest of the nation!)
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To: Atlas Sneezed

Yes, agree.

In my area, Eastern PA., they reserve water to keep the “salt line” at bay. If they use so much water that the salt water comes up the Delaware River toward the fall line at Trenton, it will seep into NJ and salt the well water. There are other reasons to leave some of the water to it’s natural course. Good luck finding a non-controversial position in this. And who gets to sell the water? Why does L.A. get water from the other side of the mountains? Does the water belong to whoever owns the land it fell on, or does it belong to the people along its historic course?


50 posted on 02/02/2014 12:54:35 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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