Posted on 02/01/2014 2:52:12 PM PST by RummyChick
Drop your belief in Allen’s innocence. At this point all evidence points to guilt. Use your Brain and Occam’s razor.
Oh, and to get no visitation at all, the judge found enough evidence back then of child abuse.
Look, I hate the guy for this. But one late night I was flipping channels and came upon a film in progress that looked interesting. I watched the whole thing and loved it! I was dying to see what film I just watched. To my horror it was by Woody Allen. “Midnight in Paris.” I don’t willingly watch any of his movies but I was feeling really creepy for loving that movie. So I know this is a strange case. But I stand with the innocent victims of child abuse always. I have a lot of experience in this field and I would bet you big bucks she is telling the truth.
Best thing said on this thread, thanks:
“That said, I think it’s a damn shame that Sinatra is now gone and unavailable to have some of his cronies exact an appropriate revenge on this vile little pervert”
Allen might have given notice of his predilection for young girls in that movie he did with Mariel Hemingway (Manhattan?). And of course marrying his step-daughter sort of gave it away.
And in one of those earlier movies, he played someone who was famous. And one night he came home and there was what appeared to be a teen girl fan in his bedroom who had broken in. She looked about 16 and had a tee shirt with his face on it (it was actually a common woody Allen t shirt that I had seen in a Hollywood store). He confronts her with some anger, but then at the end of the scene he shrugs and turns off the lights. With the girl still in his bedroom. Wink wink wink.
So he may always have been Into the underage.
I know of a school principal who is going to trial soon far molestation. He began his “career” with 14 and 15 year olds. But eventually he went younger. Some of the victims in this current case are PRESCHOOLERS.
Detective, your post is right on. I agree. However, Ronan was called satchel back then and he wasn’t a teen - he was a couple years older than his sister I believe. They grew up together.
Oh whoops, I see you were already corrected and Ronan is younger. Ok. Sorry.
And as if anyone needed more clues, he married Mia Farrow, who even in her sixties looks like a teenager.
Soon Yee was NOT Woody Allen’s adopted daughter.
“#1: Soon-Yi was Woody’s daughter. False.
#2: Soon-Yi was Woody’s step-daughter. False.
#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia’s adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.
#4: Woody and Mia were married. False.
#5: Woody and Mia lived together. False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia’s apartment in 12 years.
#6: Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage. False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.
#7: Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure. False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother’s boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.
#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations. False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or ’72.)
#9: Soon-Yi was borderline retarded. Ha! She’s smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.
#10: Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride. Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia’s own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody “had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi” so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly “had his eye on her” from the time she was a child.”
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-allegations-not-so-fast.html
Yeah, the like the art, hate the person thing is a very creepy feeling. It’s why I attempt to avoid the art.
The point is to get the facts straight. Lot of misinformation out there and people reporting such.
A lot of guys end up cheating on their girlfriends but that doesn’t give someone the right to claim they molested a child and report it as a fact. This is slander.
Funny how they never bring up Mia’s own brother is right now in prison for molesting a child, or that Mia defended Roman Polanski in his trial for molesting a teenage girl.
The allegations came out after the couple broke up. According to the nanny, who quit after she saw Farrow coaching Dylan through that videotape over the course of several days, it simply never happened.
The hospital found no evidence that Dylan had been penetrated. Her story at the time changed every time she told it. When the authorities first asked her where Daddy had touched her, she tapped her shoulders.
Mia Farrow’s brother has spent many years in prison for child molestation. Maybe that’s where she got the idea.
It’s interesting that the article doesn’t even cover that the charge that Woody abused 7-year old Dylan was investigated by the police. A Yale medical team including psychoanalysts investigated and concluded that the abuse never happened. Their conclusions suggested heavily that either Dylan was delusional or Mia helped make the whole thing up, perhaps through memory implantation. In previous cases of memory implantation (and there are very many cases where children are imprinted on by adults and claim abuse, for example the Kern County child abuse cases), these memories can last into adulthood, being perceived as real by the person.
Dylan’s own therapist who had treated her for years and also had seen Allen, Dr. Coates, explicitly testified in court that she never saw any evidence of a sexual nature to Allen’s actions towards Dylan. Another psychotherapist said the same.
Google “Doctor Cites Inconsistencies in Dylan Farrow’s Statements”
Also, her nanny came right out and said that Farrow pressured her to support the allegations against Allen, spent three days taping Dylan’s account, and testified that Farrow hit the children. Google “nanny casts doubt on farrow charges”, google “nanny testifies that farrow slapped son”
Finally, these charges came up during the beginnings of a custody battle between Farrow and Allen. Less than two weeks before Dylan was first reporting these allegations, Farrow had penned a letter to a close friend (that was later released to the press). The letter only mentions the Soon-Yi-Allen relationship and the mental anguish it was causing Mia Farrow. In the letter she specifically states that she was “perilously close to a genuine meltdown of my very core” (google that phrase to find it).
Given the evidence above, that scientific reviews have found that in custody cases where child abuse is claimed 14-20% is specifically false and arises either willfully or unconsciously due to the contentious circumstances, and that contemporanous news reports in 1992-1993 even pointed to a surge in false child abuse cases for leverage in custody battles, there is significant reason to doubt this ever happened.
Maureen Sullivan seemed well aware of weird and unnatural behavior on the part of Woody Allen. One of the children always screamed “Woody no goody!” when he came into the house and Dylan escaped under the bed. He did take pornographic photos of his now wife and left them on his mantelpiece for Farrow to see. That is what kicked this off to begin with.
That doesn’t make Allen a bad filmmaker. He’s actually a good filmmaker and an even better writer of films. But there are many unanswered questions about his behavior.
I also know that very famous and influential people get away with murder in this country. Bill Clinton, for one. I would not dismiss this young woman’s charges out of hand.
We may have to agree to disagree over this case.
My knowledge of pedophilia and the evidence that we were exposed to at the time had me believing THEN that there were serious problems with wood’s relationship with his daughter Dylan. He was clearly wooing or grooming her, either with “malice aforethought” (grooming) or simply not stopping at societal bounds (wooing or “falling in love” with her).
Now, with both Ronan’s and Dylan’s heartfelt statements, especially of course the first hand story from Dylan, I completely believe he crossed the line into child abuse / rape. I believe what we know about Woody’s behavior is consistent with him both believing he is above society’s moral limits, and evidence even in his work that he is at least titillated by underage girls.
There are implanted memories and there are newly opened old memories and there are real memories. I’ve seen them all. This to me looks ONLY like real memories that were never “locked away.” I’m sure she got treatment as a child, and maybe therapy her whole life for this.
I wouldn’t want an innocent man persecuted for something he didn’t do, but when the child has been consistent her whole life, I believe her. This happened. Woody isn’t innocent.
I also know that very famous and influential people get away with murder in this country. Bill Clinton, for one. I would not dismiss this young woman’s charges out of hand.
Bingo. We here should all be able to come up with some very suspicious deaths that were convenient to people in high places. Surely we can add up the evidence here to see that, yes, a celebrated filmmaker can be a criminal too.
Re #168. I’m not sure why you directed that dissertation to me. The only adoption I spoke of was that of Woody Allen and Soon-Yi Previn. THEY have two adopted daughters.
He did not marry his adopted daughter. That’s a lie that the Farrow clan has been pushing. She was his girlfriend’s adopted daughter. He didn’t live with them and had virtually no meaningful interaction with her till she was an adult.
She may very well believe this happened but when it was investigated back then, authorities found all sorts of holes in her story and did not bring charges. There is simply no proof at all. There is proof that Mia Farrow is a wack job has been poisoning her kids’ minds about Allen since they were very young. Allen has been married for almost 20 years and has adopted kids...jilted lover Farrow and her clan just won’t leave him alone.
Interesting that they did not adopt boys.
Looks like the brother is a homosexual and very young boys are his preference.
Glad he got ten years.
It is a generational thing, this perversion, and no doubt the Farrow parents are responsible for it. They had wild drug and alcohol Gatsby-type parties at their Hollywood home all the time while their kids were young. Any Hollywood perv could wander inside and up to the kids’ bedrooms.
A sad scenario all around.
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