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Former NY Times Columnist Claims Fox News Is 'Dead,' And Liberals Should Stop Protesting It
newsbusters ^ | Feb. 1, 2014 | Tim Graham

Posted on 02/01/2014 10:27:55 PM PST by PROCON

Former New York Times columnist Frank Rich wrote a long attack piece on Fox News for New York magazine theorizing that the Left pays too much attention to “waning” Fox News and gives them too much cachet by opposing them fiercely. It's called "Stop Beating a Dead Fox."

Fox never succeeds on its own. Liberals have the power to make it succeed:

In truth, Fox News has been defeated on the media battlefield—and on the political battlefield as well. Even the 73-year-old wizard of Fox, Roger Ailes, now in full Lear-raging-on-the-heath mode as -portrayed in my colleague Gabriel -Sherman’s definitive new biography, The Loudest Voice in the Room, seems to sense the waning of his power. The only people who seem not to know or accept Fox’s decline, besides its own audience, are -liberals, including Barack Obama, whose White House mounted a short-lived, pointless freeze-out of Fox News in 2009, and who convinced himself that the network has shaved five points off his approval rating.

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FoxNews isn't a perfect conservative outlet, but I'm still glad it makes liberals heads explode!
1 posted on 02/01/2014 10:27:55 PM PST by PROCON
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To: PROCON
Frank Rich is a pathetic moron.

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for Thursday,  January 30, 2014

Total Day P2+ (000s) 25-54 (000s) 35-64 (000s)
FOXN 1345 268 536
CNN 362 107 174
MSNBC 449 146 237
CNBC 127 39 62
FBN 51 9 22
HLN 187 76 118

Source

2 posted on 02/01/2014 10:31:36 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: PROCON

Frank Rich is an idiot and a liar, like 99.99 percent of all libtards.


3 posted on 02/01/2014 10:33:54 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: PROCON
The liberal left is the equivalent of the snake in the Garden—never stop condemning, convicting.
4 posted on 02/01/2014 10:37:02 PM PST by Fungi
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To: PROCON
Frank *????* who?
Walter Winchell ref.

5 posted on 02/01/2014 10:37:39 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: PROCON

Frank Rich has spent his entire pathetic life as a left wing propagandist. He is an enemy of the American people.


6 posted on 02/01/2014 10:37:39 PM PST by allendale
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To: cynwoody
Nobody watches Fox News anymore because it's too crowded.
7 posted on 02/01/2014 10:39:52 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Nobody watches Fox News anymore because it's too crowded.

I beg to differ, it's better than the alphabet channels, but being discerning is also important, that's why we FReep.

8 posted on 02/01/2014 10:43:06 PM PST by PROCON (Those who are capable of Tyranny are capable of Deceit to sustain it.)
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To: PROCON
Fox is just MSM as far as I am concerned.
I can't stand Oreally , Annity, pretty boy shep etc.
There is a major void for a conservative news channel.
Has free speech been eliminated on television?
Has the threat of the “fairness doctrine” been successful?
9 posted on 02/01/2014 10:52:32 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: PROCON
That's what they said about the Tea Party 3 years ago...

The Horse Manure is getting deep.

10 posted on 02/01/2014 10:55:44 PM PST by PALIN SMITH (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: PROCON

Spoke w a New Yorker last week She said when she says she watches Fox News people screech at her. What are you insane!?

She told me she says, ‘how else am I going to know anything? She said no one knows ANYTHING about Benghazi. NONE of the News outlets say d about it.


11 posted on 02/01/2014 10:57:00 PM PST by stanne
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To: PROCON
FoxNews isn't a perfect conservative outlet

There, I fixed your typo...

12 posted on 02/01/2014 11:01:29 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: PROCON

WOW could have fooled me..if being “Dead” means having the highest rated Cable News station out of everyone in existence today then that is pretty damn awesome..Liberalism, not just a mental illness, but a true defect


13 posted on 02/01/2014 11:01:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: PROCON

and this is why you shouldn’t ever believe anything a liberal says. ever.


14 posted on 02/01/2014 11:04:42 PM PST by RC one
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To: stanne; PROCON

She said she has a big heart for the diplomats, said she had to spend a ton if time in the embassy when she went to get her daughter in a foreign adoption

I want people even ted Cruz to start referring to them as, as in Argo, our diplomats

They, I am sorry, are in an exalted position They were embassy people

The ME people know it, and are treating the situation as such. We left our embassy people to die in country.

It’s just not the same as Americans. Like tourists

Well fox covers the important stuff. Well have to take it as it is for now


15 posted on 02/01/2014 11:04:42 PM PST by stanne
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To: PROCON
Don't seem dead to me.

Fox never succeeds on its own. Liberals have the power to make it succeed:

So arrogant.

16 posted on 02/01/2014 11:12:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: PROCON; KarlInOhio

I think Karl in Ohio was just making a Yogi Berra joke.

If Rich wants to discourage people from attacking Fox, fine. But the attackers are still at it. When I was in Oregon there were little bookmark-type takeaways at a cash register preaching about how evil Fox was. The demonization continues apace. Real down-and-outers spouting in Starbux after the SOTU about how wicked the Tea Party was. No substantial criticism, of course—just angry shakes of the head and muttering.


17 posted on 02/01/2014 11:13:40 PM PST by firebrand
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To: KarlInOhio

I watch it with the rest of the nobodys


18 posted on 02/01/2014 11:15:15 PM PST by woofie
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To: PROCON

Frank Rich’s head explodes no matter what subject he bothers to talk about.


19 posted on 02/01/2014 11:17:38 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: PROCON
FoxNews isn't a perfect conservative outlet, but I'm still glad it makes liberals heads explode!

Only libs think Fox News is far right.

20 posted on 02/01/2014 11:26:42 PM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: KarlInOhio
'Former NY Times Columnist, Claims Fox News, Is 'Dead...'

Punctuation fixed

21 posted on 02/01/2014 11:37:15 PM PST by Rudder
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To: PROCON

I thought Frank Rich was dead!


22 posted on 02/02/2014 12:15:42 AM PST by MacMattico
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To: PROCON

Frank’s always been such a genius... I hope his followers buy what he’s selling. They deserve the crushing disappointment that will surely follow...


23 posted on 02/02/2014 12:45:50 AM PST by DB
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To: PROCON
FoxNews isn't a perfect conservative outlet

And wouldn't that be a good thing, since I'm sure its high ratings come from the fact that most viewers are not buying the liberal like that Fox is a right-wing cheerleader pretending to be a news organization.

So if they didn't piss off the right from time to time, then the lefty's could point to that as proof that they are right, and the credibility Fox has about being "fair and balanced" would go down the toilet, along with its viewership.
24 posted on 02/02/2014 12:46:10 AM PST by zencycler
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To: stanne

“She said she has a big heart for the diplomats....”

It is despicable, truly despicable how Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have treated Stevens and the others who were killed. Chris Stevens was their guy, their FRIEND, and they done nothing but lie about his murder and ignore his murderers. Because it was embarrassing to them politically. And the MSM has aided and abetted them.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 1:14:15 AM PST by jocon307
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To: PROCON

“FoxNews isn’t a perfect conservative outlet, but I’m still glad it makes liberals heads explode!”
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I agree. FOX is about as good as we can hope for, even though I do not like Bill Ororo, or Howdy Doody
I had FOX on my dish, but last month it was moved to a higher tier on the Satellite, requiring me to buy a new receiver. I told them to screw themselves.
Fortunately, cable came to town and I am the first on my street to get it. I now have 60 chs + FOX news.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 1:15:48 AM PST by AlexW
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To: PROCON
They smell a fetid, rancid offal and assume it is Fox News. In reality it is their own reputation along with the rotting carcases of MSNBC, CNBC, ABC, CBS, LAT et al.
27 posted on 02/02/2014 1:51:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: PROCON

11/7/12 I quit watching the news period.....It amazes me people watch the ass clown at 8 pm on that network


28 posted on 02/02/2014 2:23:59 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: right way right
Yes, I know your type...the very pristine and pure type of person that can't handle one word that you disagree with. I know people like you. They tend to be insecure and bullies (it has to be your way-always).

The type that keys inane stuff such as "has free speech been eliminated". Well, it may not be pretty, but the networks are not the government and they can broadcast or not broadcast what they want.

Actually, I rarely watch FOX News myself, but I at least recognize they need to program to attract viewers. The fact that FOX drives liberals crazy is sufficient for me.

I can only guess at what your programming would be. Please list what programs you would schedule and with whom. Remember, try to program to attract a wide audience so you can pay your bills and not go bankrupt. I will help you start by saying you will program most gun shows live during the day with hushed commentary as transactions are being handled. OK, I gave you a head start - please report back in 48 hours as to your programming line up - let's keep it just to prime time. I actually am serious about this...something you can think through so you can see how easy it can be to accomplish what FOX has done.

29 posted on 02/02/2014 2:33:46 AM PST by Dave W
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To: luvbach1

Yup. Just like they refer to Boehner as a rightwing tea party speaker


30 posted on 02/02/2014 2:42:20 AM PST by RedStateGuyTrappedinCT
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To: PROCON

31 posted on 02/02/2014 2:43:24 AM PST by Bratch
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To: PROCON

This is what happens when you let the theater critic comment on media at large.


32 posted on 02/02/2014 3:31:22 AM PST by oblomov
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To: personalaccts

Just wait until that ass clown does a puff-piece with potus before the super bowl. Talk about barfing. I can just see the dufus now, with his usual bombastic style, getting real chummy with the liar-in-chief. I’m like you...I too am amazed at the ratings the ass clown gets. Oh, he likes to act real tough - looking out for us, you know. But I guarantee, he’ll pussy-foot around the liar-in-chief, lob cotton balls at him. There’ll be chuckles, snickers, even a hand from time-to-time, reaching across to touch the knee of the other. We’ve seen all this before. Nothing new; same old puke!


33 posted on 02/02/2014 4:01:03 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: AlexW

I agree. FOX is about as good as we can hope for,...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I hope Beck has success with The Blaze.


34 posted on 02/02/2014 4:02:13 AM PST by wintertime
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To: PROCON; All

You have to be pretty much a Communist to think Fox News is Conservative

Fox News supports Illegal Alien Amnesty, Open Borders, destructive anti American Free Trade deals...is anti Tea Party and attacked Obama Eligibility folks


35 posted on 02/02/2014 4:34:15 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: PROCON

Key word here is former, nudff sed. he is the former of the soon to be former! ha ha ha ha ha ha


36 posted on 02/02/2014 4:34:26 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: PROCON
Here's the situation: Rich is right...although FOX News is the clear leader in its field, it still draws a very small audience compared to the alphabet networks. Which makes the liberal paroxysms over FOX semi-hilarious. They're basically getting their collective knickers in a twist over a news outlet that only a very small percentage of Americans watch.

Conversely, if the shoe were on the other foot and the only lib media outlet was MSLSD er MSNBC, does any conservative believe we'd be working ourselves into a lather about one tiny lib/leftist channel? Obviously not. The whole liberal outrage about FOX just proves what petty fascists and latent totalitarians are most libs. They can't stand any form of dissent. All dissent must be crushed.

37 posted on 02/02/2014 4:51:19 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Olog-hai
"Rich's head explodes"

I'm highly amused by the way lib media outlets get their "experts." Rich was the drama critic for the Slimes, and then all of a sudden he gets promoted to head lib pundit supposedly qualified to write about weighty subjects...well, alongside The Queen of Snark, Mo Dowd. Other media outlets have hired sportswriters like Keith Olbermann and Mike Lupica to wax liberal about politics. What sane media org. does those things?

38 posted on 02/02/2014 4:58:45 AM PST by driftless2
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To: PROCON

Love the narrative of fox news viewers being in a bubble and surprised on election night. Go back and look at the polls. Gallup, National Journal, Politico, NBC etc (hardly right wingers) had the race a dead heat. Google archives. Every politico and talking head had the race too close to call. So the idea that conservatives were living in a cocoon is a joke.


39 posted on 02/02/2014 5:05:01 AM PST by nhwingut (This tagline is for lease)
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To: PROCON

Every day, Neil Cavuto has a breastister segment

He does not feature the backward, old fashioned British Barristers, he has leggy all American Breastisters

It is fair and balanced argument

The objection to Fox is that it is not balanced, it has a conservative bias


40 posted on 02/02/2014 5:05:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: driftless2

Well, that is merely more proof that liberalism and sanity are diametric opposites. Liberal European papers are even worse, using outright lies as doctrine.


41 posted on 02/02/2014 5:09:46 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: cynwoody
Having more viewers than all the other channels combined qualifies as "losing" according to liberal logic.

democraps: the party of envy.

42 posted on 02/02/2014 5:12:57 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: PROCON
Frank Rich??
Who ever listened to that asshole?
BTW, he spent a lot of time at the Times when it was steadily sinking into irrelevance.
43 posted on 02/02/2014 5:16:19 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: PROCON
Rich was sent out by his master. He attempts an on the face of it LUDICROUS charge against Fox and also drags in testimony from his ‘colleagues’. All they have is the low info ass. That's it.
44 posted on 02/02/2014 5:36:04 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: PROCON

Fox news has the babes. As long as that continues it will never die.


45 posted on 02/02/2014 5:40:49 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: right way right

The answer is yes to all. Buy a shortwave radio. We are behind the iron curtain.


46 posted on 02/02/2014 5:45:33 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: right way right

The answer is yes to all. Buy a shortwave radio. We are behind the iron curtain.


47 posted on 02/02/2014 5:45:33 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: PROCON

I bet he blew out a circuit breaker when his wife plugged in the Prius while he was watching Fox on TV. That would explain it.


48 posted on 02/02/2014 5:48:44 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: PROCON
 photo Bagdadbob.jpg Fox news is dead....their doors will close tomorrow!!!
49 posted on 02/02/2014 5:50:39 AM PST by ontap
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To: wintertime

Beck is succeeding beyond even his expectations!!


50 posted on 02/02/2014 5:53:24 AM PST by ontap
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