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ABC Uses Children in 'Young Guns' Experiment to Demonize Firearms
Townhall.com ^ | 2/1/2014 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 02/02/2014 5:49:24 AM PST by rktman

“Tonight is not whether people should or should not own guns,” Sawyer insisted.

Right.

ABC’s Diane Sawyer and David Muir joined forces Friday night for their 20/20 special, Young Guns, traveling to neighborhoods in which guns are a presence in the home in their effort to characterize guns as threats to children, rather than tools of self-defense. As you’ll see, the producers’ anti-gun agenda was apparent from the start.

First, the journalists conducted a little experiment to discover the obvious: kids like playing with guns.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; banglist; dianesawyer; fraud; guncontrol; guns; mediabias; secondamendment; tyranny
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To: rktman
***Didn't some "gun safety advocates" do this once before?***

The news Media do this every few years since 1968. Gives them a chance to keep up the demonization of self defense.


41 posted on 02/02/2014 8:30:30 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: KeyLargo

Remember when the news media wanted to show how deadly the AK-47 was? They shot at some melons but could not make the melon explode!

So they shot the melons with a different gun with hollowpoint bullets designed to come apart. When showed on TV, it showed a person firing an AK, and then cut to the melon exploding.

Then there was the filming of another AK shooting demonstration in which a semi-auto AK was fired against bricks, and the bricks seemed to explode. Then they did the same with a FULL AUTO AK, and none of the bricks exploded. Therefore “proving” the legal AK was more deadly than the military version.

Years ago, there was an anti-hunting film on TV (SAY GOODBY)in which a polar bear hunt was conducted from a helicopter(very illegal!). You see them hazing the bears, a polar bear with cubs, a hunter raises his rifle, shoots, then closeups of the momma bear’s face slowly dying while the babies cower in fear.

After the broadcast, it was found the bear was shot with a tranquilizer dart gun for testing. If you look close, you can see the dart leave the muzzle of the gun.

NEVER TRUST A NEWS MEDIA DEMONSTRATION!


42 posted on 02/02/2014 8:46:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

***we all grew up with guns...and nobody took one to school...***

When I was in school, if a kid took a gun or big knife to class you knew he was in leathercraft class. There was no panic about it.


43 posted on 02/02/2014 8:49:41 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Back in the 1950s and 60s, kids often shot themselves doing something stupid, like resting the muzzle of their .22 rifles on their boot and accidentally pulling the trigger.

There were several who shot themselves in the foot.


44 posted on 02/02/2014 8:54:25 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

we all grew up with guns...and nobody took one to school...***

I meant no kid was able to just take one from the house...

Guns were not an exciting curiosity to us...they weren’t an intriguing, unknown and desirable plaything..they were everyday ...MEH...No other kid would have been impressed...

our Dad’s locked their guns up so the little kids or thieves couldn’t get them..

My Dad built himself a gun cupboard that was attached to the kitchen wall and locked..

Dad put his guns away (double barreled shot gun, rifle, 22, 303, German Luger etc) unloaded..the ammo was locked up in another place..

We all learnt to shoot with that old German Luger my uncle brought back from WWII...

We would shoot targets on the side of the old barn ...My Dad built a new barn when I was 10 which means I was younger than 10 when he taught me to shoot..We weren’t allowed to mark up the new barn.. LOL

I don’t remember anyone complaining that he taught his children to handle guns while we were still in elementary school...

Although most kids I went to school with had someone who fought in WWII, I don’t remember anyone saying they were going to shoot another kid or a teacher...


45 posted on 02/02/2014 9:43:32 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

***I don’t remember anyone saying they were going to shoot another kid or a teacher...***

My dad, a WWII vet, always said to NEVER say you wished so and so was dead! If they were found dead, you would be the first suspect.

Never heard of anyone shooting up a school back then. If it did happen, it was considered strictly local news.


46 posted on 02/02/2014 10:00:37 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Johnny_cash
In the mid-1970s, I was on the JROTC rifle team at my high school, and we shot in the basement of the school. The US Army supplied Remington and Winchester target rifles, as well as W/W T-22 practice ammo, all of which were stored in the school's "armory," which was vault in the basement. We had a 50' range and would practice after school or during free periods.

Mark

47 posted on 02/02/2014 11:07:55 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: rktman

The Dana Loesch response came in context of a rebuttal by the Blaze that fact checks the abc statistics:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/31/theblaze-fact-checks-abc-did-diane-sawyer-use-misleading-stats-in-2020-report-on-children-and-guns/

Basically, abc used teen gun misuse to push up the numbers, then packaged those numbers to make it seem as if they described accidental gun injury among the younger children pictured in the report, leading to intentional (IMHO) confusion. This is not sloppy journalism. This is sophisticated propaganda designed to marginalize gun owners, to promote distrust and the kind of “turn in your neighbor” mentality so typical in other Marxist regimes.


48 posted on 02/02/2014 1:01:23 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Not journalism at all. Maybe reporterism. Like somebody said, you’re entitled to your opinion, you are NOT entitled to the facts. Good job by Dana btw.


49 posted on 02/02/2014 1:09:52 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Yorlik803

Yep, they stuffed the numbers with “gun injury” stats from “children” as old as 20, i.e., the gang demographic. So yes, badly skewed, and never a hint they were effectively lying via misdirection. See my post #48 above for more info.


50 posted on 02/02/2014 1:26:04 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

What the article won’t say is a few of the teachers are worried that as a gun free zone anyone meaning harm can get into the schools knowing that there are no guns there.

School officials are no fans of gun ban signs

BY DONNA VICKROY dvickroy@southtownstar.com February 2, 2014 4:48PM

Updated: February 3, 2014 2:06AM

A black gun with a red slash through it.

It is a sign of the times, as well as a sign that is sure to become ubiquitous.

School officials want the public to know that in compliance with state law (House Bill 0183), schools, churches, government agencies and liquor stores statewide will be posting 4-by-6-inch stickers reminding the public, particularly those with a concealed-carry license, that there are limits on where a gun can be carried.

While schools didn’t allow guns even before the concealed-carry law was passed, they still are required to display the reminder. Some officials are questioning the mandate, and some find the sticker image disturbing.

Several Southland schools already have the stickers posted at entryways, including Reavis High School in Burbank, Incarnation School in Palos Heights, all four Lincoln-Way high schools, schools in North Palos School District 117, schools across Oak Lawn and Hometown, plus Eisenhower High School in Blue Island, Richards High School in Oak Lawn and Shepard High School in Palos Heights.

Others expect to have them visible within the next few weeks.

While complying with state law isn’t a point of contention, some school administrators find the sticker’s image to be a bit alarming.

“One of my biggest concerns as a principal is safety and security,” Tinley Park High School Principal Theresa Nolan said. “It is bothersome to have to post a sticker of a gun that says, ‘Hey, folks, leave your guns at home.’ ”

Nolan said she is not opposed to posting it, she’s just worried that not enough people are aware of what it means and could misinterpret the new signage.

“I think the general public will be alarmed by it and wonder if people have been allowed to bring guns to school in the past,” she said. In her 22 years with Bremen Community High School District 228, she said, “I have no knowledge of guns ever being in this building.”

Nolan, and others, take issue with the sticker’s design.

“I would have appreciated something more subtle, yet still recognizable — a logo, perhaps, not a gun,” she said.

“You can’t look at this (sticker) and not think about Sandy Hook,” she said, referring to the 2012 school shooting in Newton, Conn., in which 20 children and six teachers were killed.

Tinley Park Associate Principal Randy Couwenhoven said, “The intent of the stickers is to inform those with a concealed-carry license that they are not allowed to bring a gun into this location. It is a reminder to this particular audience, an audience that should already know this.”

Because the law extends the gun ban to all school property, including football stadiums and parking lots, Nolan said it won’t be long before schools are posting this same symbol, at their own expense, at those locations, as well.

Tinley Park Police Chief Steve Neubauer said the design was developed by the Illinois State Police. Certain entities, including schools, churches and government agencies, as well as liquor stores, are required to post them. But any business owner can download the image from the state police website and post it if they desire their property to be gun-free.....

Read at:

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/25301892-418/school-officials-are-no-fans-of-gun-ban-signs.html


51 posted on 02/03/2014 6:59:35 AM PST by KeyLargo
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