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Obama Stumbles Over Latest Promise: “If You Like Your Retirement…”
Townhall.com ^ | February 2, 2014 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 02/02/2014 6:51:20 AM PST by Kaslin

Our imperially inclined President is already acting on the promise he made during his State of the Union to take unilateral “action” outside of the normal legislative process. And at the top of his non-legislative agenda is the reformation of American retirement. Utilizing his oratory prowess and an executive memorandum, the President is promising to give Americans a new way of saving for retirement… Or something like that. Maybe “oratory prowess” was a bit of an overstatement. It turns out that his teleprompter was never taught about avoiding double negatives – let alone triple and quadruple negatives:

Obama: 'I'm Not Going to Wait for Congress' "Now, I'm hoping that Congress goes along with this, but I'm not going to wait for Congress. I could do more with Congress, but I'm not going to not do anything without Congress, not when it's about the basic security and dignity of American workers."

Well… Good. Now we’re all confused. It’s nice that we have a leader who can unite us. (What happened to his fantastic oratory skills? Was the teleprompter set on “stutter”?) He’s “not going to not do anything without Congress.” The point was still clear, despite the obfuscatory wording. Our all-powerful Campaigner-in-Chief will not wait for the legislative wheels of Constitutional government to be set in motion.

So what is he signing into non-law? Obama has directed his Treasury Secretary, Jack Lew, to create a new savings bond called the “MyRA”. (Cute name. It rings of Orwellian double-speak given that the MyRA will be a government program.) With mildly more competent sentence structure than before, the President outlined his cure for America’s retirement woes:

“And we're calling it "MyRA." Not IRA -- MyRA.”

Thank you, Mr. President. I get it. You replaced the “I” in “IRA” with the word “My” to make me feel like I have ownership over the money I invest in this governmental financial instrument. Very clever.

“And what it is, it's a new type of savings bond that we can set up without legislation that encourages Americans to begin to build a nest egg.”

Wait! We’re creating a new savings bond!! And to think I was planning on not saving anything until I started collecting Social Security. Quick! Where do I sign up! (My kingdom for a sarcasm font.)

“Workers can contribute through automatic deductions…”

Am I supposed to be excited that the Treasury Department will allow me to “invest” with the same technological tools that allow me to subscribe to Netflix?

“MyRAs are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government.”

Oh, that makes me feel good. Anyone know if S&P is planning on downgrading the US again?

“[You] can keep the same account even if [you] change jobs.”

Oh good! So if you like your retirement, you can keep it.

“And it's affordable. You can open an account with as little as $25. You can contribute as little as $5 at a time.”

Because nothing helps build a comfortable retirement more than occasional $5 contributions to a government savings bond.

The Administration’s push to portray some gimmicky treasury bond as the solution to America’s retirement woes, only highlights the White House’s comically incompetent leadership on fiscal issues. The real problem, aside from Mr. Obama’s dependence on an apparently glitchy teleprompter, is far deeper than an insufficient choice of treasury bonds. Artificially low interest rates, declining household wealth, income stagnation, and an abysmal jobs market are far more painful to the retirement prospects of American workers than anything Treasury can singlehandedly address. The President’s adoption of extra-legislative gimmicks only serve to illustrate the leaderless incompetence of this White House.

It is becoming more apparent that the remainder of Obama’s tenure will be a hopeless mess of legislative gridlock, and executive politicking. The MyRA is nothing more than the first of many attempts to convince the American people that Obama will dictatorially go around Congress for “the greater good” of the nation. Or, as the President put it, he’s “not going to not do anything without Congress”.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: economy; myra; obama; obamasotu

1 posted on 02/02/2014 6:51:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

0bama, the TOTUS of “not”.


2 posted on 02/02/2014 6:53:08 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Kaslin

And the term MyRA is already in use by a South Dakota financial services company so, in a just world, Obama will not be able to use that name for his new boondoggle. How embarrassing for him — unless he does the fascist thing and just uses the term anyway.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 6:54:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: Kaslin

Sure...we’re going to give the government an additional opportunity to confiscate our savings.


4 posted on 02/02/2014 6:57:59 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin

Other than the government gets to use your money rather than a bank how is this MyRA different than a bank savings account?


5 posted on 02/02/2014 6:58:48 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Kaslin

“Did I say MyRA? I meant ‘OurRA’. You didn’t build that, so you don’t get to keep it.”


6 posted on 02/02/2014 7:01:47 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Kaslin
Its just to put the initial structure in place. Then between the GOPe and Democrats, legislation will make this structure "legit". Unchallenged, the same characters will then make it mandatory.
There are those floating around Washington that are very eager to get their dirty claws on all that money sitting in private retirement accounts.
7 posted on 02/02/2014 7:02:14 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Artificially low interest rates, declining household wealth, income stagnation”

I’ll digress a tad here. Did my tax return yesterday. I encourage everyone to do as I did. I looked back on my returns of the past (I have them back to 1972). One thing that jumped out to me: My interest income is now lower than when I was working while in college. Yup, my cash savings while 100 times as much as then is actually lower. My disposable income has been in constant decline for the past ten years due to this. One other thing I noticed. In 1972 I reported about 12K in gross revenue. I paid $1200 in TAX. That would be an effective rate then of 10%. Today, those making the equal in inflated dollars pay zero and probably get a check called a tax credit. No wonder we are in decline.


8 posted on 02/02/2014 7:05:29 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Fzob

a better question is how is it different than this?

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/products/prod_payrollsavings.htm


9 posted on 02/02/2014 7:06:29 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: Fzob

There was a brief someplace that mentioned no early withdrawal.


10 posted on 02/02/2014 7:06:41 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Kaslin
“Workers can contribute through automatic deductions…”

Oh, joy. Lemme see, what else do we 'contribute' to through automatic deductions? Withholding, FICA, Medicare. our wonderful 'voluntary' income tax system.

Can't wait...

11 posted on 02/02/2014 7:08:19 AM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: Mouton

Bookmark.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 7:09:59 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: Kaslin

” ... (My kingdom for a sarcasm font.)”


LOL. Now there we have true artistry in writing. Freepers everywhere are in universal need of such a font. It would be invaluable on this forum. Hours and hours would be saved each day.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 7:10:04 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: DugwayDuke

Thanks, I never knew that program existed.


14 posted on 02/02/2014 7:10:25 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Fzob
Other than the government gets to use your money rather than a bank how is this MyRA different than a bank savings account?

Not sure what the rate of return is, but it must be better than the .25 % to .50 % a saving account will get...

15 posted on 02/02/2014 7:11:58 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fzob

No, no, I think they are going to put it in the same lock box they put the Social Security in, that way it will be safe and it will be there when you need it.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 7:12:58 AM PST by depenzz ("Winning and grinning")
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To: Sirius Lee

When Obama refers to our IRA’s as “MyRA”, then you know who really owns it.


17 posted on 02/02/2014 7:13:12 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Kaslin
The Administration’s push to portray some gimmicky treasury bond as the solution to America’s retirement woes, only highlights the White House’s comically incompetent leadership on fiscal issues.

Gee Mr. President, did you think of this all by yourself? Or did you assemble all of the best liberal strategists in the country and hash this out as a team?

In baseball they call this playing "small ball".

18 posted on 02/02/2014 7:14:12 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Kaslin

I have not heard this question asked yet- I can’t believe it hasn’t so let me know if I have missed it, but...

Does ‘MyRA’ money go into the general fund and get spent? Like Social Security?

Is that what makes it different than the current LEGAL ‘IRA’ accounts? (that the government has been dying to get its hands on....)


19 posted on 02/02/2014 7:17:42 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Fzob

The camel’s nose protruding into the 401k tent. The left wants to make savings bonds the only investment eligible for 401k plans, which will eventually become akin Social Security and therefore liable to government confiscation at any time. Congress can change Social Security on a whim, (for instance Social Security payments used to be exempt from Federal Income Tax), instituting means tests lowering payments, increasing withholding. If Fidelity tried something like that they’d be frog walking Peter Lynch into Boston Federal Court. When Congress does it, tough cheese.


20 posted on 02/02/2014 7:18:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: Sacajaweau

It’s another obama boondogle in the making. How long before the minimum contribution arbitrarily changes?


21 posted on 02/02/2014 7:18:30 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Tench_Coxe

MYRA? SD WARNED YOU IN 2012: OBAMA BEGINS PUSH TO CONFISCATE IRA’S & 401K’S

With last night’s announcement by President Obama of his new MyRA, the “No Risk, Guaranteed Return” Retirement Savings Bond Program, we thought it apropos to bring back AGXIIK’s November 2012 warning that President Obama had begun a push to confiscate Americans’ IRA’s & 401k’s, and force retirement assets into treasury bonds.
While many have scoffed, we have long warned at SD that Americans’ retirement plans are the last remaining bastions of wealth for the criminal banksters to pilfer, and that they will ultimately be confiscated via forced allocation into treasury investment vehicles.
With President Obama’s State of the Union speech on 1/28/2014, the process has officially begun.
As AGXIIK warned, Please realize that this is 100% about funding $1.5 TRILLION annual deficits using Americans’ retirement funds, as there is simply no other remaining pool of wealth able to soak up $1.5 Trillion in T-bills annually.

http://www.silverdoctors.com/obama-begins-push-to-confiscate-iras-401ks/


22 posted on 02/02/2014 7:21:25 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Popman

I think the rate is the same as that paid to federal employees on their individual 403b accounts when invested in the “G fund”. This pays the average rate of what government long term bonds pay I believe. The rate has been far above the bank savings rates for the past few years. The point being is they do not own the bonds so there is no potential of losing money because open market rates rise. So, it is as guaranteed as is the T bond. It is one of the sources that the government goes to when they will exceed the debt limit. They just borrow these funds in a paper exercise. The truth be known, there is no one who knows exactly how much the government is on the hook for above the stated 17 trillion in debt when funds like these plus the unfunded pension promises are included. We are not just broke as a nation, we are broken beyond repair.


23 posted on 02/02/2014 7:21:28 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Kaslin
Am I supposed to be excited that the Treasury Department will allow me to “invest” with the same technological tools that allow me to subscribe to Netflix?

You'd be better off investing in Netflix, (NFLX). I bought it in MY (Roth) IRA at $50/share. Beat that MyRA.

24 posted on 02/02/2014 7:25:36 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Yup, remember it was originally called a contribution to Old-Age and Survivors Insurance and Social Security Trust Fund. Today it is the social security tax. Insurance means you own it, tax means the government owns it. Say goodbye to it.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 7:26:32 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Sirius Lee

What’s MyRA is OurRsA.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 7:26:40 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin

Wow! (My kingdom for a sarcasm font.) I’m thinking of changing my tag line.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 7:34:42 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Kaslin

If the critters in DC want CW-II, grabbing our IRAs will most certainly suffice.

Bring it, Obamaholes, and prepare to perpetually watch your six.


28 posted on 02/02/2014 7:34:59 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Kaslin

I’m willing to bet you could go to Dean Whitter, Morgan Stanly or any number of financial entities and set up an IRA that is automatically funded through your checking account with monthly deductions.. You would also have the added benefit of having more options of investment vehicles.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 7:37:19 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Sacajaweau
There was a brief someplace that mentioned no early withdrawal.

The problem comes after you convert it to a Roth IRA. Once you open a Roth IRA you have to wait 5 years or pay a 10% penalty to withdraw the principal. If you spend the earnings before 59 1/2, there is a 20% penalty.

30 posted on 02/02/2014 7:41:01 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The camel’s nose protruding into the 401k tent. The left wants to make savings bonds the only investment eligible for 401k plans, which will

You might be on to something, but high earners (ie those with influence) absolutely love 401K's. It is a great way to save tax free money if you have lots of discretionary income. Plus 401K's feed Wall Street a large investment stream to make money. So if the left wants this it will be a tough road as the left has lots of rich people.

31 posted on 02/02/2014 7:55:09 AM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: Kaslin

My money held by DC for my later use in retirement?

Isn’t that called “Social Security”


32 posted on 02/02/2014 7:56:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Forty years ago my employer put on a drive to get everyone to enroll in payroll savings to be “invested” in US savings bonds. I refused, I may have been the only one to do so, spoiling their drive for 100% participation. I will never forget the strange look I got when I told the guy who was doing his best to persuade me that I considered it UNpatriotic to buy savings bonds because doing so just encouraged the government to throw away more money and if the feds would stick to the constitution they would not need to borrow money.
More and more every day I see proof that I was right.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 7:57:58 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Fzob

Clintons’ Secretary of Labor, Donna Shalala, wanted to “capture” all the unpaid taxes on 401k’s since her first day in office. The left has been salivating to get their grubby filthy hands on 401k’s from the day Reagan instituted them.


34 posted on 02/02/2014 8:05:04 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s interesting. Has the company made any statements?


35 posted on 02/02/2014 8:07:08 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Tench_Coxe

January 30, 2014 (PLANSPONSOR.com) – Proposed legislation from Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) would expand access to privately run, portable retirement plans for all workers.

“The plan would be shaped as a lifetime stream of income,” Harkin said in a press conference. Unlike 401(k) plans, there would be no lump sums and no borrowing. The assets would be annuitized at retirement age.

http://plansponsor.com/Senator_Harkin_Proposes_USA_Retirement.aspx


36 posted on 02/02/2014 8:09:36 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

Is it just me, or does the “MyRA” sound like another “semi-optional” social security tax?


37 posted on 02/02/2014 8:14:32 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Kaslin

If Obama can dupe or coerce people to pay more for health insurance but get less coverage, does anyone think it’ll be long before he can convince people that “investing” in government bonds paying little to nothing, is also a good thing?


38 posted on 02/02/2014 8:20:04 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Fzob
How is this MrRAl different than a bank savings account?

For starters, it's unnecessary for the feds to get involved woth holding the money. The Roth IRA is already a very easy way to set up retirement savings. The problem is people aren't bothering because (1)interest on savings is so low and (2)they don't have extra money to save.

The difference is that if the money is with the feds, you have to go to the feds to get your money back. What if they decide not to, to change it to an annuity, or to consfiscate it if you don't pay for Obamacare or whatever?

39 posted on 02/02/2014 8:25:30 AM PST by grania
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To: Kaslin
“MyRAs are backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government.”

You turn over your real dollars to us, and, we give you fake dollars in the future.

40 posted on 02/02/2014 9:05:03 AM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: InterceptPoint
” ... (My kingdom for a sarcasm font.)” LOL. Now there we have true artistry in writing. Freepers everywhere are in universal need of such a font. It would be invaluable on this forum. Hours and hours would be saved each day.

BUMP!

41 posted on 02/02/2014 9:22:51 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of ObamaÂ’s America)
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To: Rusty0604

CEO is aware of the issue:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3118212/posts?page=24


42 posted on 02/02/2014 9:45:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

43 posted on 02/02/2014 1:22:41 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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