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Gibson Sticks Thumb in Obama Administration's Eye with 'Government Series' Guitars
Breibart ^ | feb 1, 2014 | by Jeffrey Poor

Posted on 02/02/2014 8:21:52 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie

In 2011, the Department of Justice raided Gibson Guitar facilities in Memphis and Nashville, alleging a violation of the so-called Lacey Act, a law that bans the importation of certain kinds of wildlife, plants and wood.

At the time of the raid, Gibson Guitars CEO Henry Juszkiewicz told Hugh Hewitt on his radio show that the feds confiscated tonewood imported from India for the guitar Gibson manufacturers which would result in a cost of $2 to $3 million for his company.

At a great expense in legal fees and time, Juszkiewicz fought the federal government tooth and nail. But in August 2012, he settled with the Department of Justice by agreeing to pay a penalty of $300,000 and a $50,000 community service payment to the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation.

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If I played guitar, I'd play only Gibson, and haul it around in my gunrack on Ford Pickup.
1 posted on 02/02/2014 8:21:52 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Already posted twice. Go to the Gibson website and read the comments. Lots of useful idiots.


2 posted on 02/02/2014 8:24:55 AM PST by Mercat
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3118413/posts


3 posted on 02/02/2014 8:25:47 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I love it!


4 posted on 02/02/2014 8:25:54 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Their competitors must have contributed big sums to 0bama.
5 posted on 02/02/2014 8:29:36 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I dreamed of those glossy Cherry Red Gibson’s pegged on the wall of the music stores as a kid

Maybe it’s time for me to finally buy a guitar


6 posted on 02/02/2014 8:30:05 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("Four dead in Benghazi")
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Ignore the this-has-already-been-posted Nazis.

Some of us aren't able to sit around all day and see every single thread that is posted.

Except for the Mods, that is.

As for the guitar, it can't be a government guitar. It looks like it works.

Oh. Wait. It LOOKS like it works. Now I get it.

7 posted on 02/02/2014 8:34:11 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Rusty0604

Lagunita brewing co in California of all places has some very creative names for their beers. I buy them and keep the empty just for the label...about three years ago they put out “Wilco Tango Foxtrot jobless recovery ale”, and last year they had “undercover investigation shutdown ale”, and “censored copper ale”.

I sort of think they just might be mocking the current administration.

And their brewers are good.


8 posted on 02/02/2014 8:43:37 AM PST by kevslisababy
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I don’t play guitar, but if they’d named the series “Obama Sucks” or something similar, I’d buy one.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 8:43:55 AM PST by Lawgvr1955 ( Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
So many people, even moreso than this Gibson manufacturer, have been ruined, just comprehensively and irrecoverably ruined, by the Obama Regulatory Extermination of Small Business policies.

Someday they will fight back. And won't be by ironically renaming their product.

10 posted on 02/02/2014 8:48:01 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Without justice, what else is the state but a large band of robbers?" - St. Augustine of Hippo)
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To: Lawgvr1955

So broke I just had to sell my 1979 mint Les Paul.

And before that a mint BC Rich warlock barely played.

Thinking about a kidney next.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 8:50:31 AM PST by bicyclerepair (TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS TERM LIMITS)
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To: Lawgvr1955



12 posted on 02/02/2014 8:54:42 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ("When you meet the unbelievers, strike at their necks..." -- Qur'an 47:4)
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To: bicyclerepair

WOW! You are broke. I guess if it came down to it I’d unload a few from my quiver. Wouldn’t want to but I would. More so than any firearm I may or may not have. ;>}


13 posted on 02/02/2014 8:55:44 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: reg45
Their competitors must have contributed big sums to 0bama.

Fender is the other major marketer of guitars. And, yes, they are a big Demo donor.

This was nothing more than Eric Holder doing a number on his big donor's competitor. Croney Capitalism at its worst.

14 posted on 02/02/2014 8:56:02 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kevslisababy

But a few and keep them full, keep them a few years and sometimes items like that make a good investment.


15 posted on 02/02/2014 8:57:17 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

So I wonder if these government series guitars are heavy, too big, bloated, and complicated to work. If they have a milspec number they’ll cost 400 times more than an identical model without the milspec number.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 9:00:27 AM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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17 posted on 02/02/2014 9:04:03 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Wahoo! I think I need one of those.

In 1994, my home was robbed and "they" decided they needed my late 70s wine red Les Paul Deluxe and a few more things more than I did. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford to replace it.

GuvCo did a similar thing when they raided Gibson a couple of times and confiscated their supply of ebony, forcing them to find something else to make their fretboards with.

So, on the last day of 2011, obama "forced" me to buy one of the last Gibson Les Paul Customs with an ebony fingerboard before they switched to Richlite.

I don't really need another guitar, but I sure do love my Les Paul and Gibson's attitude.

I might just have to have one of their "Government Series" guitars...as a matter of principle, doncha know.
(Rationalization is a handy thing to have when you're shopping for something you want but don't need.)

18 posted on 02/02/2014 9:13:48 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Here's the new Gibson spokesman with the new Gibson Guitar!


19 posted on 02/02/2014 9:14:18 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: reg45

In fact they did, CF Martin benefited mightily while being Big Obama Donors.


20 posted on 02/02/2014 9:15:53 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: GBA

Learn to play “Devil Comes Down to Georgia” on your Les Paul, and rename it “Obama Comes Down to Georgia” and be the life of the party.


21 posted on 02/02/2014 9:19:10 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: kevslisababy
I missed my one chance to get:


22 posted on 02/02/2014 9:21:27 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: bicyclerepair

I feel your pain. We’ve got homeless people bringing us pizza today...


23 posted on 02/02/2014 9:22:56 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: okie01

Yep, and Fender buys exactly the same wood from the same suppliers. No raid, no hassle.


24 posted on 02/02/2014 9:29:48 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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25 posted on 02/02/2014 9:30:43 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Thanks, good idea. I like it!

I'm thinking about re-writing the lyrics for Jerry Jeff Walkers' "Redneck Mother", since I can't get this revised chorus line out of my head:

"And it's "Up against the wall, GuvCo mothers!"

Oh yeah, that's got potential...

26 posted on 02/02/2014 9:31:20 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
I'm no fan of Woodie Guthrie, but a graphic on them saying..."This Machine Kills Fascists" would be a plus.
27 posted on 02/02/2014 9:43:52 AM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
he settled with the Department of Justice by agreeing to pay a penalty of $300,000 and a $50,000 community service payment to the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation.

So basically, all the money will get funneled into democrat, eco, wacko groups to further destroy our economy.

28 posted on 02/02/2014 9:46:09 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

This thing has been hotly debated in the guitar forums and unfortunately the anti-Gibson side (invariably liberals) has come out on top, at least on the question of whether Gibson broke the law. It looks like Gibson did violate the Lacey Act and probably did so knowingly. The question of whether Gibson was targeted for political reasons is still out there, but without more solid evidence those who make the argument don’t have much to fire back with when they are dismissed as conspiracy theorists.

What’s funny is how arguing about Gibson is a direct proxy for arguing politics on musical instrument forums. After a big hot Gibson thread you pretty much know everyone’s politics.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 9:47:56 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Colorado Doug
I recommend they use the Exxon Valdez payment plan.
30 posted on 02/02/2014 9:49:04 AM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: bicyclerepair

Are you sure you have your priorities right? You have two kidneys, how many 1979 mint Les Paul’s did you have? :-)

I hope you recover quickly from your financial situation.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 9:53:19 AM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Yardstick

Selective Enforcement and Targeted Waivers is the hallmark of this administration. They have lost all moral authority and respect for the “Rule of Law”.


32 posted on 02/02/2014 10:02:20 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

This is a GENIUS marketing move! VERY VERY SMART and VERY
creative thought!


33 posted on 02/02/2014 10:08:14 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Saw the president of Gibson being interviewed on Fox today. He said a 30 member SWAT, in full battle dress, and armed with automatic weapons invaded his business.

This proves beyond a doubt that Holder a d Obama are capable of anything.


34 posted on 02/02/2014 10:13:54 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: null and void
Yep, and Fender buys exactly the same wood from the same suppliers. No raid, no hassle.

Representatives from Fender and Martin were on the same sourcing trip to Madagascar as Gibson employee Gene Nix. That's the trip where Nix reported to Gibson that Roger Thunam's wood was under government seizure and could not legally be purchased because it was new wood, clearly harvested after the 2006 ban.

Fender and Martin didn't buy any Madagascar ebony from Thunam. Gibson did.

35 posted on 02/02/2014 10:14:10 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
He said a 30 member SWAT, in full battle dress, and armed with automatic weapons invaded his business.

I've seen photos from the raid other than those released by Gibson's PR department. I've also spoken to Gibson employees and executives present at the 2009 raid, the 2011 raid, or both.

There were agents in SWAT gear.

However, most of that 30-member invading crew were dressed in khakis and navy polo shirts, and carried handguns.

36 posted on 02/02/2014 10:19:42 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: Scoutmaster

OK. Thanks. Still horrible. I’m glad that they’re standing up to these thugs.


37 posted on 02/02/2014 10:23:51 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: okie01
--- Fender is the other major marketer of guitars. And, yes, they are a big Demo donor. This was nothing more than Eric Holder doing a number on his big donor's competitor. Croney Capitalism at its worst. ---

Didn't know that. Thanks.

38 posted on 02/02/2014 10:27:28 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Yardstick
he question of whether Gibson was targeted for political reasons is still out there

At the time of the 2011, second, raid, Gibson CEO Henry Juszkiewicz had made exactly one political contribution to a Republican. You may confirm this at www.opensecrets.org.

At the time of that raid, Juszkiewicz was a founding member of the Rainforest Alliance, providing global warming educational materials to children and promoting programs to save the rainforest. Gibson (wholly owned by Juszkiewicz and David Berryman) was one of the first members of the Clinton Global Initiative. Clinton had hosted Gibson's 100th Anniversary party at the White House.

Juszkiewicz served as a presenter at MTV's Rock the Vote program at which Barack Obama was honored, and Bill Clinton received the Lifetime Achievement Award. Two weeks after the 2011 raid, Juszkiewicz attended a jobs program with Obama at the White House. Juszkiewicz was a member of the Environmental Defense Fund, and a director of the We Are Family Foundation, which promotes the benefits of diversity through programs for schools.

If Juszkiewicz had some private falling out with Obama, I don't know about it. I only know he's not the conservative hero conspiracy theorist paint him to be.

39 posted on 02/02/2014 10:32:41 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: okie01
Fender is the other major marketer of guitars. And, yes, they are a big Demo donor.

Chris Martin of Martin guitars is a big Democrat donor, but Fender?

I checked www.opensecrets.org after the 2011 raid and again today. I see no evidence of any Fender donations to Democrats.

Could you tell me where you got this information?

40 posted on 02/02/2014 10:36:11 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: okie01

I’ve also checked Fender CEO Larry E. Thomas. No political donations.


41 posted on 02/02/2014 10:47:13 AM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I can only play ONE Les Paul at a time...but just DAy-yum! I want one o’ those! LOL!


42 posted on 02/02/2014 10:54:50 AM PST by left that other site
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To: MeshugeMikey

Rock On, Gibson!








ML/LTOS


43 posted on 02/02/2014 10:57:37 AM PST by left that other site
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To: Scoutmaster

Yeah, that sounds about right.


44 posted on 02/02/2014 11:07:12 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Scoutmaster

It’s details like these that make defending Gibson difficult.


45 posted on 02/02/2014 11:16:27 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Scoutmaster; St_Thomas_Aquinas; null and void
It is Martin guitars that donates to the Democrat party, not Fender.

Apologies for the mistake. Credit Scoutmaster for the correction.

46 posted on 02/02/2014 12:02:51 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Thanks.


47 posted on 02/02/2014 12:03:26 PM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Even though I hate Les Pauls, I may just go ahead and get one of these...


48 posted on 02/02/2014 1:09:26 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: MeshugeMikey

With HIS signature on it?

I’d burn it first.


49 posted on 02/02/2014 1:11:00 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

Like going to see Lone Survivor, I didn’t enjoy it much but considered it taking one for the team.


50 posted on 02/02/2014 1:49:29 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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