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Gay refugees find shelter after fleeing hate in homelands
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 1, 2014 | Kevin Fagan

Posted on 02/02/2014 8:55:48 AM PST by artichokegrower

In America, Carine can hold Gertrude's hand and not be beaten. It's amazing to them both.

On Market Street in San Francisco, they can push their baby in a stroller and not be spit upon for being witches or demons of sin - as lesbians are back in their home villages in Cameroon.

In that West African country, being convicted of homosexuality brings years of prison, just as it does in Uganda, Afghanistan and 74 other nations. That's why Carine and Gertrude have fled to America, as have an increasing number of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people each year from countries including this month's Winter Olympics host, Russia.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexualmafia; moralabsolutes; sodomy
From the Department of Homeland Security Website

Coming to the United States

If you are approved as a refugee, you will receive a medical exam, a cultural orientation, help with your travel plans, and a loan for your travel to the United States. After you arrive, you will be eligible for medical and cash assistance. For more information on benefits available to refugees, please see the Health and Human Services, Office of Refugee Resettlement page.

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr

From the HHS website

Refugees and the Affordable Care Act August 28, 2013

Refugees and asylees in the United States meet immigration status eligibility requirements for immediate access to Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and the health coverage options under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Many other immigrant groups in the U.S. have to wait five years before they are eligible for public benefits. Learn more with ORR’s new Fact Sheet, “Refugees and the Affordable Care Act”.

1 posted on 02/02/2014 8:55:48 AM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

So now homosexuality qualifies people for refugee status? Interesting.........


2 posted on 02/02/2014 8:57:03 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: artichokegrower

How did people in their home countries know that they were queer?


3 posted on 02/02/2014 8:57:58 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: artichokegrower
filthy queers get in, but... the guy that fingered 0bama er Osama was left to die in Pesh

wonderful

4 posted on 02/02/2014 9:01:02 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Meanwhile, US Christian find hate in the homeland:

http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Religious_news_clippings.html

Homosexual activists are often seen as engaging in specious argumentation, such as attempts to controvert the consistent teaching of the Bible on homosexual relations (see homosexuality and biblical interpretation), and using false analogies, in order to gain acceptance of homosexuality. One common argument used by homosexual activists seeks to compare their quest for equal rights to that of others.[32] This argument is countered by the observation that blacks were able to peacefully argue that mankind should not be "judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"[33], as the former yields no certain moral distinction. In contrast, homosexual activists seek acceptance of an immoral practice(s), and in addition, engage in certain coercive and manipulative means to do so. This includes the use of demonstrative protests, which appear to be designed to censure and intimidate those who oppose them in any way.[34][35][36][37][38][39][40][41][42][43][44] In addition, one pro-homosexual commentator recently took the homosexual community to task for being racist in their practice of homosexuality.[45] Another strategy used by supporters of the homosexual agenda is to publicly deny that such an agenda exists.[46]

While not all homosexuals agree with the use of deceptive psychological tactics, these have been promoted by leading homosexual activists. The aforementioned book, After the Ball, is widely regarded as the handbook for the gay agenda, in which two Harvard-trained (homosexual) psychologists [47] Marshall Kirk (1957 - 2005) and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill, who was also schooled in social marketing) advocated avoiding portraying gays as aggressive challengers, but as victims instead, while making all those who opposed them to be evil persecutors. As a means of the latter, they promoted jamming, in which Christians, traditionalists, or anyone else who opposes the gay agenda are publicly smeared. Their strategy was based on the premise that, "In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be portrayed as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to adopt the role of protector. The purpose of victim imagery is to make straight people feel very uncomfortable."

"Jamming" homo-hatred (disagreement with homosexual behaviors) was to be done by linking it to Nazi horror, advised Kirk and Madsen. Associate all who oppose homosexuality with images of Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered, hysterical backwoods preachers, menacing punks, and a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed. Thus, "propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths..."[48][49]

5 posted on 02/02/2014 9:01:30 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Cowboy Bob
How did people in their home countries know they were queer?


"They LOOK like they're queer."

6 posted on 02/02/2014 9:01:59 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
So now homosexuality qualifies people for refugee status? Interesting.........

If I was living in Somalia, and I could get into the US by just holding another guy's hand and claiming to be gay, I would do it.

7 posted on 02/02/2014 9:03:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I know this won’t go over well here, so here it goes anyway.

No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.


8 posted on 02/02/2014 9:04:37 AM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: artichokegrower

This is all about building numbers and a constituency to forward a political agenda.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 9:05:45 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: artichokegrower

Just what we need, more pervert freeloaders from some Third World craphole.


10 posted on 02/02/2014 9:06:27 AM PST by Argus
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To: PapaBear3625

This brings up, how do you prove you are gay. This gay avenue could prove to be something which people claim to be gay just to be granted refugee status in America, get public benefits, etc.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 9:06:37 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: artichokegrower

Refugees go to the top of the line for subsidised or senior housing.

What a country,huh?

.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 9:07:03 AM PST by Mears
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To: sean327

I agree with you that nobody deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay. But is it really a reason to grant refugee status? People in totalitarian regimes around the world are tortured in various ways by their governments.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 9:08:46 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: sean327

I said about the same thing a few weeks ago. People, to say it politely, wholeheartedly disagreed.


14 posted on 02/02/2014 9:10:35 AM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: artichokegrower

America, soon to be the modern day ‘Sodom & Gomorrah’.


15 posted on 02/02/2014 9:11:37 AM PST by mulligan
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To: sean327

“No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.”

Exactly. This why they need to work to change things in their home countries.

Similar as to how the illegals from Mexico need to stay in Mexico and agitate for political and economic change. Nothing like millions of disgruntled young men in their prime earning years to get some economic reforms going.

You see, this is how real, beneficial change takes place thoughout the world without adding more weight to the sinking ship called the USA.


16 posted on 02/02/2014 9:11:38 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
people claim to be gay just to be granted refugee status in America, get public benefits

Choice of bathrooms, locker rooms/showers, hiring preference, housing etc, etc, etc...

Everybody....claim you're "gay"!

(which actually means happy)

17 posted on 02/02/2014 9:12:24 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: sean327

And on the other hand, no one deserves a visa and a free ticket to America for being gay.


18 posted on 02/02/2014 9:13:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: sean327
No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.

They do if they're also a child molester.

19 posted on 02/02/2014 9:14:51 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: artichokegrower
I was in San Francisco in the 70s and saw a man dressed as a woman sitting at a lunch counter. I looked at him (btw- really bad makeup job) and I pitied him. I looked at the other people looking at him and they too were pitying him. It was quite evident that the guy was blatantly nuts.

A day later I went to Pier 39 and saw a guy with his arm around his female girlfriend holding the hand of his boyfriend.

San Francisco is the safe haven for phags.

20 posted on 02/02/2014 9:22:40 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: artichokegrower

Oh, San Francisco should just LOVE their new neighbors! Finally, a triple-oppressed group for them to sign up for all kinds of benefits! Also, new voters for the dems! And some new criminals in there to coddle, as well. What a day!

Our prayer to you:

“Thank you Gaia, mother of us all, for your generous gifts of these new humans to patronize and to play with. To show our love, we will find some more conservatives to trash.”


21 posted on 02/02/2014 9:23:45 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: artichokegrower
"In that West African country, being convicted of homosexuality brings years of prison, just as it does in Uganda, Afghanistan and 74 other nations."

While not agreeing with the homo lifestyle, gotta say that's pretty harsh. However, giving them special status here in the USA and other countries is also not warranted. Often times I think that there should be heterosexual marches and parades. Just to show them they are no one special because of their sexual preferences.

22 posted on 02/02/2014 9:23:49 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: artichokegrower

More black queers from foreign countries!

The one in the White House isn’t enough?


23 posted on 02/02/2014 9:26:16 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: sean327
No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.

Nobody deserves to get beaten or tortured for being Christian.

But I suspect the US won't be opening their doors to them.

24 posted on 02/02/2014 9:26:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

They are good at urban renewal without the government being involved. The Castro district was once a slum. I say let them all in and let them settle in Detroit.


25 posted on 02/02/2014 9:29:52 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: artichokegrower

The simple fact is that the USA can’t fix the problems of the world by inviting distressed citizens of elsewhere to move here. We simply can’t afford it.


26 posted on 02/02/2014 9:31:43 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Have you been to San Francisco lately, the place smells like piss, because of all the bums.


27 posted on 02/02/2014 9:33:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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28 posted on 02/02/2014 9:35:41 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: sean327
I know this won’t go over well here, so here it goes anyway.
No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.

Why is that the problem of American taxpayers when it happens in a foreign country?

There is a lot of injustice in the world and we are not Texas Rangers to the world.

Christians are being slaughtered every day by muslims with little, if any, outcry from the federal government.

Yet the Obama governmemt continues it's perverted preoccupation with homosexualism.

Thanks to Obama and the federal government we have taxpaying, law abiding American citizens who can't get the medical care they need, but we are giving it for free to foreign homosexuals.


29 posted on 02/02/2014 9:36:47 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I loved the baby stroller reference to make it look like the average family! Well SF I guess they fit the bill!


30 posted on 02/02/2014 9:38:43 AM PST by DocJhn
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To: artichokegrower

Won’t be too much longer before they make heterosexuality a crime.


31 posted on 02/02/2014 9:42:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: sean327

What makes you think anyone here, in their right mind, promotes beating & torturing gays? That’s an absurd insinuation!


32 posted on 02/02/2014 9:42:45 AM PST by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: artichokegrower

The Statue of Liberty should have kept her mouth shut about wanting the wretched refuse.


33 posted on 02/02/2014 9:43:32 AM PST by bgill
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To: artichokegrower

“push their baby”

You don’t have a freakin’ baby. You can’t make one, morons.

Just the Democraps bringing in more voters. President Cruz should have them extradited to Cameroon


34 posted on 02/02/2014 9:49:30 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: christx30

People posting here were in favor of guys being beaten and tortured??? Really? Do you recall the thread title?


35 posted on 02/02/2014 9:52:38 AM PST by Bob
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Homeschooling German family being forcibly deported by the rat admin.


36 posted on 02/02/2014 9:52:49 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Bob

People are under threat all over the damn world. Do we let everyone in? Everyone to suck off the welfare state and drive up our debt?


37 posted on 02/02/2014 9:53:56 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: artichokegrower

Son: “Mom, they beat me up for kissing a man in public and talking about our bedroom activities.”

Mom: “Then don’t do that.”

If people want to defile one another in the privacy of their homes, I say go for it. But I don’t want to hear about it or know about it, and I certainly don’t want my children to hear about it or know about it. Homosexuality and its associated acts should be put back in the closet (read: away from public display) as it always has been.

Sodomy laws weren’t enacted to stop sodomy; sodomy laws were enacted to keep sodomy from public display. Time for the SCOTUS to reverse Lawrence v. Texas.


38 posted on 02/02/2014 10:05:37 AM PST by MikeyB806
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To: Viennacon

Of course we can’t let everyone in the world immigrate here. The whole idea of doing that is ludicrous.

What’s being put forward here is an equally ludicrous proposition:

Anyone who opposes throwing open our borders to accept every refugee in the world is by definition, supporting the beating and torture of those refugees in their home countries.


39 posted on 02/02/2014 10:18:20 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

No, the point is, why are these people being favored over others? Could it be because they are potential rat voters?


40 posted on 02/02/2014 10:19:32 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon

Did you read the post to which I replied?

An earlier poster had asserted that FReepers would have a problem with his objection to gays being beaten and tortured.

The poster I replied to claimed that he had gotten a negative response from FReepers when posting similar thoughts. I was asking him to back up that claim with a thread title so that I could see the replies for myself.


41 posted on 02/02/2014 10:45:39 AM PST by Bob
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To: Bob

Oh, okay


42 posted on 02/02/2014 10:47:02 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Dilbert San Diego

But if you face having your children taken from you because you want to homeschool them, off you go.


43 posted on 02/02/2014 11:07:26 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: dfwgator

Exactly


44 posted on 02/02/2014 12:15:56 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Bob

There are many threads out there. Especially the ones about the anti-gay laws in Nigeria and Uganda. Jailing gays just for being gay. And anyone that doesn’t think that jail in that part of the world doesn’t equal torture or beatings is wearing blinders.
Thread title: Nigeria begins arrests after anti-gay law passed. They are “rightly” arrested and jailed for 10+ years.
And see any thread about Alan Turing.


45 posted on 02/02/2014 1:38:36 PM PST by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: sean327; christx30
"No one deserves to get beaten or tortured for being gay.

I don't think anybody on this thread will disagree with you. Ping me if they do, and I will bop over and give them some Remedial Catechism.

This seems to be my role.

46 posted on 02/02/2014 4:34:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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