Skip to comments.On Immigration, What Are the Republicans Thinking?
Posted on 02/02/2014 12:14:46 PM PST by fifedom
The GOP has announced that it will pursue an immigration reform bill later this year. This surprised most observers. Why would the party entertain a civil war when everything seems to be going well for it?
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There is no cure for stupid, except voting it OUT!
Here’s what they are thinking...
“If we make a bunch of people who broke the law become citizens, then all hispanics will LIKE us”!!!
Good luck with that.
They’re not called the stupid party for no reason.
Republicans don’t think, they just cave.
The GOP will be dead if they pass amnesty. And a true Tea Party will
emerge from it’s ashes.
#4 is what I read. I don’t like it either but they have to look like they tried to do something.
They want to be rid of the need to make concessions to conservatives they view as “embarrassing” as defined by the media, knowing that together with moderates afraid of Democrats, enough of us will vote for them to keep them in power with which to hand out favors to their financial backers.
they believe evrything the libtard mmedia tells them.....FORGET ABOUT THE 70% OF THE AMERICAN CITIZEN THAT WANTS STRONG BORDER SECURITY AND NO AMNESTY....their gullible morons
They are thinking that "you", whether you take that to mean Christian Conservative or non-Hispanic white, did not produce enough future voters to make Conservative candidates relevant. And unless something changes drastically and soon, they're right.
Praise God you’re here!
How about a variation of #5? Maybe the Republicans fear they’ll win, and then the minority of Republican amnesty supporters won’t be able to join with Democrats to pass amnesty. Maybe they see this as a last chance, in their political careers, to do an amnesty cram down on the American people.
Paul Ryan said the legislation is in trouble. It would be remarkable for the House to pass a bill that would be reconciled in conference with the Senate. Senator Menendez, the Democratic fornicator from New Jersey has said that the conference will be hijacked by pro amnesty people and through parliamentary maneuvers will not need a second vote in the House. However it would seem that there will be no chance for any immigration bill passing in the next Congress if as expected more rock solid conservatives are elected.
Sure, amnesty would mean more legal Democratic voters, but the Democrats don't care if a vote is cast legally as long as it cast for a Democrat.
I go with option #5 which supports the position that the GOPe truly wants conservatives to leave and form 3rd party giving them a strong #2 position to fight for scraps at the table of their socialist overlords.
“Republicans dont think, they just cave.”
I think it’s a mistake to underestimate the GOPe. They DO think, and that is why they cave. They aren’t irrational. I’m sure they know they aren’t really going to win over Hispanics, so there has to be some other logical reason. It’s also possible they believe what they say. Some of them clearly seem convinced an amnesty is going to help the economy. We can disagree on that, but they definitely have known or unknown reasons for doing what they do.
BTW, I bet they also know an amnesty might very well cost some of them their jobs, but I also bet they aren’t worried about that. Have you ever heard of a politician starving after leaving office? No. They’ll be taken care of regardless.
I think they know the Tea Party cavalry is coming, so they want to act now while they can.
Bonehead bends over so much that Bawney still sends him Valentine cards.
The GOP is dead, dead, dead.
Save your money for the upcoming CW-II.
God bless and keep you.
So, pass it now primarily with Dem votes, and kill the chances for a big Republican win in 2014, thus cementing the win for another 2 years, which means forever.
Boehner, McConnell and big business all want to avoid having too many Tea Party types in congress who might actually force them to do anything conservative. Boehner and McConnell's jobs are only to preserve enough of a cutout in the socialist program to allow (certain) big business to have big profits.
I noticed Braveheart on TV last night, and the plot around the perfidious Scottish barons strikes a familiar note.
Generally, the South Of the Border crowd does not like, respect nor trust the Republicans. Frankly, if I were a S.O.B. person, I would be inclined not to respect a country's laws that does not care about enforcing immigration laws and protecting its citizens.
The Republican party is likely to get more respect by protecting the border, and our sovereignty from invaders.
That's my suspicion. The liberal repubs want the Dems to share the blame on this, so both groups can play the old finger-pointing game. They don't want to go it alone and their window of opportunity is sliding closed.
BTW, there’s precedent back when the Democrats lost the House. Remember that lame duck session when they were passing everything possible with GOPe votes before it was too late? We know some of our guys can’t wait to pass amnesty. Maybe they see what’s coming, a tidal wave of pissed off voters, and want to act while they still can.
Regardless of the reasons though, a Party that would rather see the enemy take the prize instead of one of their own just because he believes in a much stronger version of the same thing, deserves to be torn apart as a waste of space.
Oh. BTW the part that I quoted above is my personal belief for why they want it.
Attempt to manufacture a new base as they have alienated their old base.
Here’s what they are thinking:
Conservatives are a minority in the party and need to be beaten down.
The GOPe is under pressure from big donors who want the cheap and willing labor. There is a case to be made that Mexican laborers are easier to handle and work harder than spoiled Americans.
This isn’t new, it’s been the case with immigrants for a century.
Take a look at the farm bill and you will understand what motivates the GOP insiders.
I would love to know who was for and who against Amnesty during this retreat.
Hope there was a vote on it and the vote is leaked out by someone. I would like to know the idiots who support Boner.
> The GOP will be dead if they pass amnesty. And a true Tea Party will
emerge from its ashes.
And every RINO will br removed from office and replaced with candidates that represent the will of The Peopla and rightly so.
If the Republicans were smart, they would also add that from now on immigrant babies born on USA soil are no longer immediate American Citizens.
That should stop the anchor baby illegals wanting to come here....
I heard on the radio the other day that if Republicans don’t pass an immigration bill Obama will do an EO and make illegals legal..and if he does, well, he knows the Republicans won’t do a thing about it...
Instead of giving tuition subsidies (TAX DOLLARS) to ILLEGALS to go to College, HEY RINOS, Why not use those scarce funds to help both our vets and over-50 US citizens get/stay healthy, retrain, continue contributing LEGALLY to the economy?
WHY ARE WE FUNDING ILLEGALS — WHEN OUR OWN ‘SEASONED’ U.S. CITIZENS NEED CONSTANT RETRAINING & HEALTH SERVICES TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE, PRODUCTIVE AND PROSPEROUS!!!!
Cut the nonsense, Keep AMERICA strong! It’s our education & health care Money, not “The World’s”!!!!
Ca$h > principles. It’s that simple.
Oh YES, Mr. Obama, since the country isn't going down the crapper fast enough, let us help you add 11 to 20 MILLION new DemonRAT voters to the rolls. Thank you, sir, may we have another?
They’re thinking how much further up 0’s backside they can crawl.
I too was racking my brain for an explanation. Then it hit me... the Dems and the R's are supposed to take turns. That's pretty much been the Washington way for over 200 years.
The R's are the stupid party because they haven't realized the Dems are playing for keeps now and don't want to give them any more turns.
I personally believe part of why the GOP-e are going against the tide of good rightful thinking on immigration is that they are being shoved (aka blackmailed) into this by the pro-Business lobbying group the Chamber of Commerce of USA and other open border lobbyist’s. The group has been pumping umpteen millions into the pols campaigns and now the CoC is demanding payback or else. They’re now demanding ‘QUID PRO QUO’.
Being a true conservative means believing in a small(er) federal government. In Washington this means having to say “I want less power in my own hands because that’s what’s best for the country”.
Very, very few pols think this way. This is why most conservatives are hated in Washington. They’d take power away from the pols who want it.
In short, this is why the republcian party is always at war with its conservative base - because most republicans are fine with big government as long as they are in charge. This is why #5 on the list is spot on - the big government republicans can’t stand the thought of more Ted Cruz’s making their life hell, forcing them to actually act conservative.