Skip to comments.Jordanís FM Rejects Recognizing Israel as Jewish State
Posted on 02/02/2014 9:10:57 PM PST by Olog-hai
Jordans Foreign Minister said Sunday that he was against recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, the Jordanian website Ammon News reports.
The minister, Nasser Judeh, also rejected the idea of Jordan being an alternative home for Palestinian Arabs.
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Jordan wants no part of the Palestinians on it’s soil. Nobody wants them on their soil. They start causing unrest, and soon there’s a move to topple governments.
I thought Jordan had long ago recognized Israel.
Israel maintains full diplomatic relations and open borders with two of its Arab neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, after signing peace treaties in 1979 and 1994 respectively.
“he was against recognizing Israel as a Jewish state..”
not quite the same thing.
During the 2000s, the foreign ministry warned that the increasing influence of the EU, largely pro-Palestinian, would further isolate Israel in global affairs.Big mistake even allowing the EUSSR to exist.
Well I’m not convinced this is anything more than Jordan quashing any discontent related to it’s relationship with Israel. It’s a Jewish ‘state’ nation and there’s nothing going to change that.
I’m not convinced the E.U. will stay in tact. There is a lot of discontent IMO.
Oh, there is . . . just like there was in the USSR. Top-down government has a way of keeping a lid on it. Of course, the biggest way to distract everyone is to suddenly get hawkish in a military sense.
It’s all about hate. Hate, hate, hate.
If these Arabs chose peace they’d soon have an operation that would be even the envy of Israel’s, and without chopping anybody else’s head off, either.
Only one thing, in principle, could do it... the gospel.
Too much to lose right now; Europe needs the gas that comes through there. But it will certainly accelerate agreement on defensive cooperation.
Jordan is Arab Palestine. Thats what they don’t want to recognize. Old Palestine was divided into two pieces; a sliver for the jewish settlers renamed Israel, and the remaining bulk of the territory for the arabs, renamed Jordan. Jordanians are ethnic Palestinians.
The royal family is from what is now Saudi Arabia. They were the rulers of Mecca until the Sauds drove them out, and they were given Arab Palestine, Jordan, as their consolation prize.
If they ever admit this, they would have to explain why Mecca arabs are ruling Palestinian arabs. So they walk a fine line, backing the US, backing Israel even, against Fatah. And, as you say, they want no part of Fatah, they fought their own bloody war to drive Arafat and his Fatah out of the country. They don’t want them back. The jihadists, for their part, would like nothing better than to overthrow the current Jordanian government. Israel shares intel with the Jordanians as needed to make sure the Jordanian royals keep Fatah and the other jihadists at bay.
Thank you for the explanation.
Jordan comprises some 2/3 of “palestine” and has a majority “palestinian” population. It remains under the “leadership” of a saudi king, however, and there’s the sensitivity. Many Jordanians don’t approve of, or don’t even recognize the legitimacy, of the foreign king. Many also don’t like his somewhat more practical politics - preferring a radical Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbellah type “leader” instead.
The king has a peace treaty with Israel and the treaty has been working out quite well for him, right now he doesn’t want to unnecessarily upset his domestic ‘palestinian” jihadists so he says and the Israelis just ignore it.
Someday he will probably get tossed out and the “palestinians” will get their way? Right now he keeps buying time...for himself.....
That is true. Some day, I believe God will break the power of Islam. It will not be this month, but it will happen eventually. I just wonder if Harold Camping is making any more predictions on when this will happen?
Honestly, the politicians of 1914/1914 appears to have been intellectual giants compared to the ones we have today.
At the recent Munich meeting (last weekend) not only Kerry but several “EU-leaders” attacked Russia in a way that one could only come to the conclusion that they had all forgotten the fact that Putin sits with his hand resting on the valve to their gas supply.
As I recall Jordan is the original homeland of the Palestinians.
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It isn’t. That’s why the Jordanians don’t want the so-called “Palestinians” there. “Palestinian” is a false demonym anyhow.
I pretty much think that’s on target.
Islam sure doesn’t preach forgiveness that I can see.
Agree with the over scheme of things you’re discussing, from your perspective, and perhaps you’ve got it a lot more nailed down that I do.
The Palestinians have caused just about everyone who wanted to help them, to get angry and cast them out.
As you mentioned, Jordan did. So did Lebanon. I believe there have been others too. The Palestinians haven’t found happiness anywhere. Perhaps this is because they were treated unfairly, but my take on it is that what most folks think is an ardent hatred for the Israelis, seems more at time to be a manifestation of what they sooner or later think of everyone they have to work with.
It’s always the other guys fault. The Palestinians always play themselves off as the persecuted ones.
I don’t buy into it
Didn’t Camping pass from this mortal coil finally? But not until God had an earthly laugh at him by granting him a ripe old age.
Personally, I feel the gospel has gotten short shrift, because folks assume it is no more powerful than our relatively wimpy modern churches. I think that when the church accepted an invitation to take over a government it embraced a factor that was destined to make it mediocre. It garnered that church a nicer society to live in, all right. But it also dumbed down the concept of Christian.
God’s clock may still have more time on it than we think. America looks very well like it could be an example of what happens when institutionalized Christianity gets jettisoned. The spiritual and moral vacuum WILL end up getting filled. HOW it is filled will involve evangelism, but it won’t look like the warped evangelism of yesteryear that basically hectored believing Christians to be more Christian lest they go to hell when they die (and a false premise, I now hold it to be, on biblical grounds). It will look like evangelism to rank unbelievers, starting from ground zero, with almost no pre-existing biblical knowledge that can be counted upon.
With Muslims, the battle of bible vs. Koran has its work cut out for it. God bless the few, staunch Christian missionaries to Islam. They will have to help lead the way. It would need to be an effort that lasts for generations.
Yes he did, but I did not know it till you mentioned it. I try not to throw the baby out with the bath water, as Walter Martin used to say. I talked to Walter Martin 3 different times on the Bible Answer Man. One time he said over the air, next we have Mark from Travis Air Force Base. He asked me if I was career military. Camping did say something I would agree with now and then. I listened mostly for the old fashioned Gospel music, that is lacking on other Christian stations. There was another guy that agreed with Camping on the 2nd coming, named Gunther Von Haringa senior. I have not heard anything from him either, since it was a false prediction.
Well, there sure is no lack of apprehension of a heavenly recall of earth’s Christians today.
The problem I see with a lot of these apprehensions is that they seem to lack a sense of perspective. Is America, the world’s largest display of the gospel to date, having obvious troubles with evil? Yes. Has it become Sodom? No. (Check Abraham’s arithmetic, for one thing.)
Also, happily, the troubles seem to be rousing Christendom out of its complacency. The bible seems to suggest that the actual rapture will come at a time of great complacency and little faith. (”Peace and safety.”) The worries, ironically, are part of God’s proof that the worries are, as yet, unnecessary.