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Jordanís FM Rejects Recognizing Israel as Jewish State
INN ^ | 2/3/2014, 4:45 AM | Elad Benari

Posted on 02/02/2014 9:10:57 PM PST by Olog-hai

Jordan’s Foreign Minister said Sunday that he was against recognizing Israel as a Jewish state, the Jordanian website Ammon News reports.

The minister, Nasser Judeh, also rejected the idea of Jordan being an alternative home for Palestinian Arabs.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: foreignminister; jordan; palestinians; rop

1 posted on 02/02/2014 9:10:57 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Jordan wants no part of the Palestinians on it’s soil. Nobody wants them on their soil. They start causing unrest, and soon there’s a move to topple governments.

I thought Jordan had long ago recognized Israel.


2 posted on 02/02/2014 9:13:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: Olog-hai
Top of page:

Israel maintains full diplomatic relations and open borders with two of its Arab neighbours, Egypt and Jordan, after signing peace treaties in 1979 and 1994 respectively.

LINK

3 posted on 02/02/2014 9:27:01 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“he was against recognizing Israel as a Jewish state..”

not quite the same thing.


4 posted on 02/02/2014 9:31:32 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: DoughtyOne
Wikipedia still prefers their liberal sources as references, don’t they.

This is certainly interesting (from the introductory section):
During the 2000s, the foreign ministry warned that the increasing influence of the EU, largely pro-Palestinian, would further isolate Israel in global affairs. …
Big mistake even allowing the EUSSR to exist.
5 posted on 02/02/2014 9:31:49 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: RitchieAprile

Well I’m not convinced this is anything more than Jordan quashing any discontent related to it’s relationship with Israel. It’s a Jewish ‘state’ nation and there’s nothing going to change that.


6 posted on 02/02/2014 9:44:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’m not convinced the E.U. will stay in tact. There is a lot of discontent IMO.


7 posted on 02/02/2014 9:45:40 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh, there is . . . just like there was in the USSR. Top-down government has a way of keeping a lid on it. Of course, the biggest way to distract everyone is to suddenly get hawkish in a military sense.


8 posted on 02/02/2014 9:54:48 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s all about hate. Hate, hate, hate.

If these Arabs chose peace they’d soon have an operation that would be even the envy of Israel’s, and without chopping anybody else’s head off, either.

Only one thing, in principle, could do it... the gospel.


9 posted on 02/02/2014 10:11:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Olog-hai
Of course, the biggest way to distract everyone is to suddenly [for the EU to] get hawkish in a military sense.

Ukriane, maybe?

10 posted on 02/02/2014 10:12:20 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Too much to lose right now; Europe needs the gas that comes through there. But it will certainly accelerate agreement on defensive cooperation.


11 posted on 02/02/2014 10:15:32 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: DoughtyOne

Jordan is Arab Palestine. Thats what they don’t want to recognize. Old Palestine was divided into two pieces; a sliver for the jewish settlers renamed Israel, and the remaining bulk of the territory for the arabs, renamed Jordan. Jordanians are ethnic Palestinians.

The royal family is from what is now Saudi Arabia. They were the rulers of Mecca until the Sauds drove them out, and they were given Arab Palestine, Jordan, as their consolation prize.

If they ever admit this, they would have to explain why Mecca arabs are ruling Palestinian arabs. So they walk a fine line, backing the US, backing Israel even, against Fatah. And, as you say, they want no part of Fatah, they fought their own bloody war to drive Arafat and his Fatah out of the country. They don’t want them back. The jihadists, for their part, would like nothing better than to overthrow the current Jordanian government. Israel shares intel with the Jordanians as needed to make sure the Jordanian royals keep Fatah and the other jihadists at bay.


12 posted on 02/02/2014 10:46:27 PM PST by marron
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To: Olog-hai

Of course. He’s a true islamic believer.


13 posted on 02/02/2014 11:04:43 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: marron

Thank you for the explanation.


14 posted on 02/02/2014 11:18:56 PM PST by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: Olog-hai

Jordan comprises some 2/3 of “palestine” and has a majority “palestinian” population. It remains under the “leadership” of a saudi king, however, and there’s the sensitivity. Many Jordanians don’t approve of, or don’t even recognize the legitimacy, of the foreign king. Many also don’t like his somewhat more practical politics - preferring a radical Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Hezbellah type “leader” instead.

The king has a peace treaty with Israel and the treaty has been working out quite well for him, right now he doesn’t want to unnecessarily upset his domestic ‘palestinian” jihadists so he says and the Israelis just ignore it.

Someday he will probably get tossed out and the “palestinians” will get their way? Right now he keeps buying time...for himself.....


15 posted on 02/03/2014 1:44:12 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Only one thing, in principle, could do it... the gospel.

That is true. Some day, I believe God will break the power of Islam. It will not be this month, but it will happen eventually. I just wonder if Harold Camping is making any more predictions on when this will happen?

16 posted on 02/03/2014 2:44:12 AM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Olog-hai

Honestly, the politicians of 1914/1914 appears to have been intellectual giants compared to the ones we have today.

At the recent Munich meeting (last weekend) not only Kerry but several “EU-leaders” attacked Russia in a way that one could only come to the conclusion that they had all forgotten the fact that Putin sits with his hand resting on the valve to their gas supply.


17 posted on 02/03/2014 3:43:30 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: marron
You nailed it.
Jordan was created for the “Palestinians.”
18 posted on 02/03/2014 5:12:50 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Olog-hai

As I recall Jordan is the original homeland of the Palestinians.


19 posted on 02/03/2014 5:16:10 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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20 posted on 02/03/2014 5:24:33 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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To: elpadre

It isn’t. That’s why the Jordanians don’t want the so-called “Palestinians” there. “Palestinian” is a false demonym anyhow.


21 posted on 02/03/2014 5:28:59 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Agreed...


22 posted on 02/03/2014 8:06:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I pretty much think that’s on target.

Islam sure doesn’t preach forgiveness that I can see.


23 posted on 02/03/2014 8:07:42 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: marron

Agree with the over scheme of things you’re discussing, from your perspective, and perhaps you’ve got it a lot more nailed down that I do.

The Palestinians have caused just about everyone who wanted to help them, to get angry and cast them out.

As you mentioned, Jordan did. So did Lebanon. I believe there have been others too. The Palestinians haven’t found happiness anywhere. Perhaps this is because they were treated unfairly, but my take on it is that what most folks think is an ardent hatred for the Israelis, seems more at time to be a manifestation of what they sooner or later think of everyone they have to work with.

It’s always the other guys fault. The Palestinians always play themselves off as the persecuted ones.

I don’t buy into it


24 posted on 02/03/2014 8:14:28 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: Mark17

Didn’t Camping pass from this mortal coil finally? But not until God had an earthly laugh at him by granting him a ripe old age.

Personally, I feel the gospel has gotten short shrift, because folks assume it is no more powerful than our relatively wimpy modern churches. I think that when the church accepted an invitation to take over a government it embraced a factor that was destined to make it mediocre. It garnered that church a nicer society to live in, all right. But it also dumbed down the concept of Christian.

God’s clock may still have more time on it than we think. America looks very well like it could be an example of what happens when institutionalized Christianity gets jettisoned. The spiritual and moral vacuum WILL end up getting filled. HOW it is filled will involve evangelism, but it won’t look like the warped evangelism of yesteryear that basically hectored believing Christians to be more Christian lest they go to hell when they die (and a false premise, I now hold it to be, on biblical grounds). It will look like evangelism to rank unbelievers, starting from ground zero, with almost no pre-existing biblical knowledge that can be counted upon.

With Muslims, the battle of bible vs. Koran has its work cut out for it. God bless the few, staunch Christian missionaries to Islam. They will have to help lead the way. It would need to be an effort that lasts for generations.


25 posted on 02/03/2014 9:26:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Didn’t Camping pass from this mortal coil finally? But not until God had an earthly laugh at him by granting him a ripe old age.

Yes he did, but I did not know it till you mentioned it. I try not to throw the baby out with the bath water, as Walter Martin used to say. I talked to Walter Martin 3 different times on the Bible Answer Man. One time he said over the air, next we have Mark from Travis Air Force Base. He asked me if I was career military. Camping did say something I would agree with now and then. I listened mostly for the old fashioned Gospel music, that is lacking on other Christian stations. There was another guy that agreed with Camping on the 2nd coming, named Gunther Von Haringa senior. I have not heard anything from him either, since it was a false prediction.

26 posted on 02/03/2014 9:57:09 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

Well, there sure is no lack of apprehension of a heavenly recall of earth’s Christians today.

The problem I see with a lot of these apprehensions is that they seem to lack a sense of perspective. Is America, the world’s largest display of the gospel to date, having obvious troubles with evil? Yes. Has it become Sodom? No. (Check Abraham’s arithmetic, for one thing.)

Also, happily, the troubles seem to be rousing Christendom out of its complacency. The bible seems to suggest that the actual rapture will come at a time of great complacency and little faith. (”Peace and safety.”) The worries, ironically, are part of God’s proof that the worries are, as yet, unnecessary.


27 posted on 02/03/2014 10:08:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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