Skip to comments.Ham-on-Nye debate pits atheists, creationists
Posted on 02/03/2014 5:44:47 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
Bill Nye may be The Science Guy, but Ken Ham is the Answers in Genesis man, and a debate between the two over the origins of life has nonbelievers and Christians wringing their hands.
Nye, host of a beloved television science series, and Ham, president of a creationist apologetics ministry, will meet at the Creation Museum, where Ham is also the president, on Feb. 4. In what some wags are calling the Ham-on-Nye debate, they will weigh this question: Is creation a viable model of origins?
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
In recent years, however, they have adopted the "shut up" method of discussion...many evolutionists are NOT HAPPY about Bill Nye taking on Mr. Ham.
By the way, I believe this debate will be available on a LIVE STREAM tomorrow, February 4.
Yes, it will be available for free online. Many churches are hosting live events to watch the debate.
What model ?? ID says ‘its here, just appeared one day long ago. we can never go beyond that. Now try to prove that wrong’
That's hardly a model.
Back in the 1700s and 1800s Creationism was the paradigm.
But then the Ark got overloaded by new finds and sunk it.
When IDers propose a model for how ID got it all here then there is something to debate,.
Ham will soundly defeat Nye
Any discussion on the anger Nye will show at his being ignored?
That is an incredibly inaccurate description of the ID position. Perhaps you should watch the debate.
You could start by reading this entire post here:
“Information Theorypart 1: overview of key ideas (article)”.
Then you could get a copy of Werner Gitt’s book, write a rebuttal to it, get it published, present and/or debate the issue live in a few dozen places, and that would be a good start.
Here is my prediction on the debate: (I’m hosting a local simulcast, btw.)
Ham will win the debate,
he will lose in the media,
and he will be vindicated by God in heaven, at the end of time
(which, by the way, is also one of God’s creations).
,,, I gotta admit, that’s a clever headline!!!!
Robert M Hazen, “genesis: The Scientific Quest For Life’s Origin”
Also some of his lectures on YouTube are very interesting. And he’s not beyond God doing it. It’s just that he sees biogenesis as a very vexing problem.
Heh heh. Does want to calculate the odds that life or the universe could appear spontaneously?
It should be noted that in the famous Darrow/Bryan “Scopes” court case, ALL those from local and regional newspapers thought Bryan won. It was only the national metropolitan reporters who thought Darrow won.
Hmmm.... that’s interesting.
Not surprising at all.
Yep, and the vast majority of the public was backing Bryan too.
Lawyers basically followed a similar tactic in Roe vs Wade, they simply wanted a landmark case they could use to try to change public opinion.
I don’t see anything that looks like a theory or model at they link you gave me.
Its still ‘What they say cant be true because....’ which is no different than ‘Scientific’ Creationists scam.
“It is all a big mystery and we can never guess how everything came to be’ is not an alternative, which is why they love debating. Ya cant disprove nothing, only something can be falsified.
I imagine it's for two reasons. One, nothing will be accomplished. When the dust settles, the supporters of Creationism will still support creationism and the supporters of evolution will still support evolution. All is does is give creationism a thin covering of science. And two, come on. It's Bill Nye, a kids show host. Do you want people to think he's speaking for you?
Yeah, OK, like evolution strictly follows the scientific method - anything historically-based is not a hard science. It does not follow the scientific method. It is neither observable nor repeatable. And it is not falsifiable so it really doesn’t matter who is included in the debate, just a bunch of hot air [no, not referring to global warming - another hoax of our times].
You realize you just describe creationism to a tee as well, don't you?
Spoken like a true product of public school education.
There is some truth to that, however the fact that evolutionists have falsified different evolutionary theories when new finds didn't fit them sets it apart from Creationist science.
Creationism Science is just ‘Look over there, don't look over here. Everything just appeared a few thousand years ago and that's all there is too it. Now lets get back to those missing bones’
Well, Bryan actually won the local court case too.
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