Skip to comments.Election 2014: Kentucky Senate - Rasmussen (McConnell in REAL trouble! Bevin LEADS Grimes!)
Posted on 02/03/2014 9:43:17 AM PST by mn-bush-man
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Feel free to support McConnell. I certainly feel free to support his challenger Matt Bevin.
I agree completely. The Precinct Project is a good start and so is the Leadership Institute. FReepers or those interested in being or developing a candidate or managing a campaign need education and experience. We need a farm club and it really starts at the lower offices. I am much more confident in electing someone who gets politics and you don’t always find the kind of effective political leaders in business. There is a beneficial art to political experience. We talk a lot about level one: getting elected. But being able to implement an agenda as an executive or move policy as a legislator is critical. As we can see with Obama no experience = big mess. Seeing him disclaim any responsibility for the poor management and implementation of his signature legislation/policy just shows how utterly incompetent he is. He must live in a good news only bubble. I’d be worried about everything that did go wrong. But it’s somebody else’s money and...he’s Obama.
That wasn't the Green Mile thing with Carlo3 IMO. That was full scale suicide by ZOT!
Hey, it’s a free country.
I’ll make you a deal: if Bevin wins the primary, I’ll hold my nose and support him against Grimey (as she lrefers to be called). Will you likewise promise to support McConnell if he wins the primary?
I’m always glad to find a fellow FReeper who recognizes the importance of the GOP building a strong farm system to provide us with a stable of experienced conservative candidates for higher office. A conservative can win a statewide election in Delaware; a conservative nobody can’t, though.
Excessive Troll harvesting ,eh?
Best we spray their fur in Orange Paint and set up a Charity against Troll clubbing...
It is just so cruel and unnecessary when synthetic alternatives are available...
“Hey, its a free country.
Ill make you a deal: if Bevin wins the primary, Ill hold my nose and support him against Grimey (as she lrefers to be called). Will you likewise promise to support McConnell if he wins the primary?”
If McConnell wins the primary I’d vote for him in the general against a Democrat if I lived in Kentucky (which I don’t). However, I’d never donate a dime to his campaign (I’ll leave that up to the GOPe’s NRC and their other committees) or do volunteer GOTV phone calls in support of his campaign. I do contribute to Bevin’s campaign and organizations that support candidates such as his.
Boy, talk about a “conservative” eating a conservative. Your post looks like it could have come directly from the McConnell campaign playbook.
MIT issue — put down the McConnell Super Purple Kool-Aid for a second and step away from the cheap, political soundbite. I invite you to read:
Anyone who actually LOOKS INTO the McConnell claim will see it’s bogus. Most serious people have moved well past this garbage.
It’s disappointing that you resort to name calling (”Paultard” - is this 4th grade??).
Foreign Policy - again, if you look past your McConnell playbook script and actually go read what Bevin says about his foreign policy stance, you’ll be embarrassed. From his own page:
“America has the strongest military in the world and we must keep it that way. But we cannot be reckless in how and where we use that strength. As a veteran, Matt personally appreciates how important this is. Before voting to send our soldiers to war, Matt will be guided by two key questions: Is it in our national interest and is it in keeping with our constitutional principles? Matt will oppose all engagements that do not meet these two fundamental criteria. Anything less is unfair to the soldiers who put their lives on the line and unfair to the taxpayers that pay the bills.
“Matt will also fight to reform our broken foreign aid system that sends billions of taxpayer dollars to entities or countries that support terrorism and dont enhance our interests. Finally, Matt will fight against any foreign treaty, such as the New START and LOST treaties, that weaken our sovereignty and appease our enemies.”
If that’s a different position than you’re interested in supporting (i.e., being guided by our constitution and our national interests, not lining the pockets of our foreign enemies), perhaps you’re a member of the wrong Internet forum.
LOL Darksheare!!! Looks like I missed another meal! Dang, and I was hungry. Ain’t nothin’ left!
My experience with actual voters - liberals to conservatives - is that competency counts. Essentially, if you can run the organization well, so that it doesn’t annoy the voter - raising taxes, lowering services, etc. - you’ll be elected for life.
If you exude competency your actual views on matters don’t count that much with voters. They want good government in every sense of the word. Conservatives make the mistake of having to declare themselves in an absolute sense. The voter just wants it cheap, good and fast - pick two.
“...The Bug remains silent....”
The Bug hit the Flyswatter known as “Lord Of Zot”.
In some places, it’s also known as “Zotzilla”... although, from the Old High Latin, it’s called “Zottus Swattis Maximus”.
At that point last night, bug was still with us.
But not for much longer.
It was somewhere after that post that Bug got sprayed.
It’s primal man!
Can’t help it, we see a troll and it’s all “hissy, slashy, meow!” until there’s nothing left!
“...Bug got sprayed...”
I like it!!!
Seems like they’ve been out in droves lately...
Yes, they have been.
Especially due to the stupid amnesty crap going the rounds.
The delousing happened somewhere/when between posts 60 and 65.
I’d checked around the time post 58 or so last night and bug was still there.
I didn’t check again until after the post that said “Bug go squish”.
Yeah, I was reading through the postings and saw the sudden disappearance...
Inspiring... the Mods are good!!!
I love the smell of Zot in the morning... you know, that “zot” smell hanging in the air... smells like... Victory....
I don’t live in KY either, and I’m not going to donate or do GOTV for either Bevin or McConnell irrespective of which one wins, so we’re even. : )
Yeah, by “support” I meant that I’d encourage my aunt and uncle (who live in Louisville) to vote for Bevin if he won the primary, and I’d refrain from badmouthing him until past the election (just as I did with Johnny Isakson in 2004, Rand Paul in 2010, etc.).
I maintain it’s a “cultural thing.” We’ve been clubbing baby trolls since the dawn of time, and the only culturally sensitive thing to do is to continue the clubbing, with gusto.
She’s dead Jim.
We slap the trolls we make their faces sting.
We slap the trolls before their big zotting.
We slap the trolls we make their mommies cry.
We slap the trolls we slap the trolls.
Barry Manilow did serve a purpose.
JudiBug was not too chatty.
Ozone is my favorite scent.
Evidently, she was chatty enough to draw the ire of the Mod gods....
“....The snap of a few sparks, a quick whiff of ozone, and the lamp blazed forth in unparalleled glory...”
-Ralphie, “A Christmas Story”
She only made one comment the rest of us kept the chat going.
Must be Italian. It says fra gel lay.
LOL, *Hisssss hissss*(Orange marker paint) *whoooommmp* (The Club),
Yep, looks like a good partnership. :) (Effective in low light situations)
Well, she pissed off somebody for sure...
One of the best movie lines of ALL time...
“No, dear, I think it says “Fragile”...”
Love that movie. A kid, his BB gun, and a leglamp... all the makings of a TRUE Classic!!!!
We the Rank & File peoples don’t get to CHOOSE our candidates. We have to evaluate the options from the ones who volunteer. I spent several months looking at Bevin; listening to him, speaking with a few friends who know him. To a person, the answer I get back is: Matt Bevin is “genuine”. He IS, the image that is being put forward.
I’m convinced he’s GOOD ENOUGH to beat Grimey (as she apparently LIKES?? to be called?). That’s the main thing.
Matt is NOT a politician. That’s pretty clear. But, he’s improved significantly in a very short time. His message is getting more and more focused. NO ONE ELSE in this state (and, yes... I DO live in Kentucky) had the courage to take on Mitch. The ‘undertaker’ is powerful, and vindictive. Fight him and lose?? Well... let’s just say it’s “bad news”.
I’m sending my tiny bits of money. More significantly, I’m talking with the few people I know who have MUCH MORE money. I will also volunteer for phone banks, which are being organized, and will help with canvassing as much as I can.
In my 50+ years, this election looks like it may be one of the most exciting ever. THIS, is our chance to show the GOPe that we REALLY MEAN it! Status quo has GOT to change. What better way to send the message than to replace the GOPe leader, who is hip-deep in the good ‘ol boy network.
For the life of me, I don’t understand you guys who seem to LIVE for the thrill of kicking people OFF the site?
Are you THAT unable to defend your own beliefs? The first sign on the mildest kind of dissention, and you’re ready to FIRE UP the electric chair.
Makes no sense to me... at all.
Thank heaven McConnell is going down.
McConnnell has clearly worn out his welcome. He’s a great strategist and legislative tactician, but he’s been there for 30 years. Some of these elderly Senators need to retire.
Check your email when you get a chance.
I can’t understand people who get bent out of shape over obvious trolls like judibug.
“McConnnell has clearly worn out his welcome. Hes a great strategist and legislative tactician, but hes been there for 30 years. Some of these elderly Senators need to retire.”
(I get it, fear of retribution from McConnell scares off the best potential challengers—heck, it even scared Rand Paul into endorsing McConnell’s reelection over a Paulistinian challenger—but that doesn’t make his challengers any better.
Whatever happens in the primary, the most important thing is that the GOP nominee defeats Alison Lundergan Grimes (or Grimey, as she prefers to be called).
Darks is right. JudiBug made his/her statement and had no intention of responding to any questions or challenges. I will debate anyone who wants to debate if it’s a subject I’m interested in. Darks, Cyber, moose, many others and I are just tired of obvious trolls. Nothing to gain letting them do hit and runs on multple threads flinging their drivel and running away. I tell you what next time I see one I’ll try to remember to ping you and see if you can engage them in conversation. Basically the dead give away troll says “You are a liar and you hate America” then they run away. I’m 60 years old and I have known a troll when I see or hear one since I was 5 years old.
Judibug had no intention of “debating”.
[Nevermind that FR is not a liberal debating society, irrelevant to the point at the moment.]
They were here to toss a turd into the window, then go back to wherever they were from to hoot, beat their chest, and pretend they did something brave.
We merely cracked jokes and laughed at them on our own time afterwards.
Troll posters like Judibug are like the driver of this blue car:
Darks, I swear that person works at my building. LOLFNL
I’ve seen some driving semi trucks in that fashion.
I see these people no matter where I go. On the interstate they drive in the left lane 10 mph below the speed limit even if the right lane is empty. Then they look confused when you blow by them in the right lane. In the south, these people are usually from Indiana or Ohio.
Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey, or even Quebec at times here in NY.
Or, flipside, the Massachusetts driver is doing twenty to thirty over and looks confused when he finally finds out that the speed limit is 65.
No... you hijacked an important thread. If the Bug had nothing else to say? Then, great! We could continue. Half the responses in this thread are your high-fiving over ZOTTING a newb. And, threatening to Zot other newbs.. and, gloating over Zotting an "old timer".
This is not a conservative ZOTTING society, either.
We don’t allow amy of those states to pass through Alabama.
No one on the thread banned the Bug, Jim or a Mod did. My guess is they were a retread. No poster has the power to ban anyone.
No, if you want to see a real hijack, look up keyword “undeadthreadhere”.
Obviously your undies are in a bunch over the troll getting the ouster.
Instead of whining at us, whine to the site owner.
No, you don’t know what an old-line KY “moderate” Republican is like, the heirs of the old John Sherman Cooper people. He would definitely prefer Grimes over Bevin. And McC got his start lauding John Sherman Cooper.
Yes that is correct.
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