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Congress seeks to jack up fees on home heating oil in midst of frigid winter
The Washington Times ^ | February 2, 2014 | Jacqueline Klimas

Posted on 02/03/2014 12:36:01 PM PST by ZULU

Congress‘ mammoth farm bill restores the imposition of an extra fee on home heating oil, hitting consumers in cold-weather states just as utility costs are spiking.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: congress; farmbill; homeheating; homeheatingoil; taxes
More little piggies at the food trough.
1 posted on 02/03/2014 12:36:01 PM PST by ZULU
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To: ZULU

Is this only on “home heating oil” or all diesel ?


2 posted on 02/03/2014 12:37:33 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: ZULU
The peasants are just another crop to be harvested.
3 posted on 02/03/2014 12:39:00 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The only way women can "have it all" is if men aren't allowed to have anything.)
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To: ZULU

Ø won’t sign it... he’s for the little guy, and won’t allow this. /sarc


4 posted on 02/03/2014 12:39:22 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: ZULU

WHY?........................


5 posted on 02/03/2014 12:40:00 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Don’t know.


6 posted on 02/03/2014 12:41:13 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU

Using Karl Marx’s ideas to help the middle class is like using Adolph Hitler’s ideas to help the Jews.


7 posted on 02/03/2014 12:41:27 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: ZULU

I’m sure that will affect the states that vote democratic mostly, so good. You wanted one party rule, choke on it.


8 posted on 02/03/2014 12:41:58 PM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: ZULU

You don’t understand. According to the article, the fee lowers energy costs for the consumer.

Why wouldn’t that be a good thing? /sarc


9 posted on 02/03/2014 12:42:09 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
1 cent on 5 gallons isn't exactly a big deal. But it's all these incremental bumps for funding a bureaucracy that is weighing done the economy. Encourage new equipment my arse.
10 posted on 02/03/2014 12:42:11 PM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: C210N

The bastards in Congress LOVE these Omnibus bills. They hide ALL KINDS of critters in there.

Omnibus Bills should be unconstitutional. What citizen has the time to read all this crap?


11 posted on 02/03/2014 12:42:39 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU
Off road diesel is dyed red and moves into home heating and mining, logging, etc.
How will anyone know which gallon to tax ?
12 posted on 02/03/2014 12:43:39 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: ZULU

Next come the smallpox blankets.


13 posted on 02/03/2014 12:44:16 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: hosepipe

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Remember, the bastard in the White House and his party believe Americans are too warm in winter, too cool in summer, too well-fed, too well clothed and too medicated. They think we should live like third world people.

Just part of the grand scheme.


14 posted on 02/03/2014 12:44:33 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: dblshot

It is if you don’t account for it.


15 posted on 02/03/2014 12:44:38 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: ZULU

...and then Joe Kennedy can blame it on greedy oil companies and kiss Venezuela’s ass to get “free” heating oil for poor people.


16 posted on 02/03/2014 12:44:41 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: hosepipe

Because they can.


17 posted on 02/03/2014 12:45:13 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Around here LEO’s have little transparent dipsticks they’ll use to check truckers fuel tanks. If the little dipstick shows red, trucker is in big trouble.


18 posted on 02/03/2014 12:45:17 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mase; expat_panama

Rent-seekers . . . and look at their arguments, seen them here before?


19 posted on 02/03/2014 12:47:58 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: ZULU

From the article:
“...The bill prohibits oil companies from passing the fee on to consumers...”
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Our lawmakers are such a bunch of morons.
Money is money, it has to come from somewhere.

The only thing that requirement does is keep the fee
from being itemized on the customer’s bill so that
the consumer won’t blame their politicians for the 2 cents/10 gallons.


20 posted on 02/03/2014 12:49:45 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: ZULU

Tried to access their website (not the article but the organization that this money is funding)

Seems like most of the pages are unavailable.


21 posted on 02/03/2014 12:50:22 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Don’t know about those two but my natural gas bill just doubled from a frigid January last year!


22 posted on 02/03/2014 12:51:55 PM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Eagles6

Freeze in the dark, peasants, and thank your betters for it.


23 posted on 02/03/2014 12:52:02 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Black Agnes

DOT you mean. It’s a long narrow transparent straw and if it comes out of the tank red you’re dead.
I have had this done at a road check.

Ain’t nothing a sweet as a long nose “ Pete”


24 posted on 02/03/2014 12:52:12 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: ZULU

Global corporations want to bust the small farmer, they want all the land.

I know sounds like a conspiracy theory.

So What!


25 posted on 02/03/2014 12:53:22 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ZULU

Well the Republicans in the House won’t allow something like that to happen. Oh wait they are all RINO’s. Nevermind. :-)


26 posted on 02/03/2014 12:54:55 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ZULU

The EXEMPT Congress is smart enough
and has enough mendacity
to make “laws” for others from which THEY,
THEIR FAMILIES, and THEIR STAFF are exempt.


27 posted on 02/03/2014 12:55:29 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I do not know how they tax it. However, commercial diesel fuel for fishing boats puts out exhaust fumes that are a different color that regular diesel for highway trucks & cars. There is no federal or state highway tax on this fuel. I believe you can also use this in your commercial farm tractors, combines, etc.

If you get caught with it in the tank of your sailboat or other personal craft it is a big fine.


28 posted on 02/03/2014 12:57:03 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: South Dakota

Well, DOT then. But if they can impound your vehicle/etc, they’re not too much different than LEOs.

They relaxed after katrina for a bit since the fuel situation was so dire.


29 posted on 02/03/2014 12:59:08 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: MrB

Exactly.


30 posted on 02/03/2014 1:02:36 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Black Agnes

True. You are right about the LEOs


31 posted on 02/03/2014 1:06:16 PM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: ZULU
The heating oil fee was backed by Northeast lawmakers who said it would fund important research to benefit consumers

There you go, someone is getting a kickback.

32 posted on 02/03/2014 1:08:26 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: ZULU
Omnibus Bills should be unconstitutional.

Omnibus is very ominous...

Locally, in my town government, we now regularly see an all-encompassing one-humongous budget to vote on at town meeting. Basically, all the town employees join with town leftists that believe in big government, come the 1st night to town meeting, and place one vote, for the "town budget" no matter what is inside it.

33 posted on 02/03/2014 1:09:20 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Here in PA, we have ag-approved, non-taxed diesel fuel, for farm use, and it’s dyed red/pink. If you get caught with it in a commercial vehicle, unless it’s a farm truck, it’s a fined offense. When I had my Family Farm Business, all my farming & construction equipment ran on it, but personal vehicles were gas-powered.


34 posted on 02/03/2014 1:13:02 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: ZULU

The bill prohibits oil companies from passing the fee on to consumers, but taxpayer advocates said that’s a sham and that the money has to come from consumers.

More proof congress doesn’t understand economics...


35 posted on 02/03/2014 1:16:51 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: carriage_hill

I am familiar with it because all the lobster fishing boats out on the ocean put out a different color exhaust than pleasure boats.


36 posted on 02/03/2014 1:39:09 PM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: ZULU; All
Thank you for referencing that article ZULU.

I haven't seen the farm bill, so I'm not sure why Congress is calling it a farm bill. But as mentioned in related threads, this bill has significant constitutional problems imo.

More specifically, regardless what FDR's pro-unconstitutionally big federal government activist justices wanted citizens to think about the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers in Wickard v. Filburn, both Thomas Jefferson and the Supreme Court had previously clarified that Congress has no business sticking its big nose into intrastate commerce. Using terms like "does not extend" and "exclusively," Jefferson had essentially indicated that intrastate commerce is off limits to Congress.

“For the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively (emphasis added) with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.” –Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

But since enemies of the Constitution will argue that the Supreme Court's interpretation of the Constitution is the only one that matters, please note the following. The Supreme Court later reflected on Jefferson's words by clarifying the following limits on Congress's Commerce Clause powers. Not only does Congress have no constitutional authority to interefere with intrastate commerce, but Congress cannot tax such commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress. (emphases added)” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

And since bill in question is a farm bill, note that before Constitution-ignoring FDR had a chance to establish an activist justice majority, Constitution-respecting justices had clarified the following about "government" power to regulate agriculture. Expressed in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless, justices had essentially clarified that the states had never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate agriculture.

“From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden (emphasis added).”—Mr. Justice Roberts(?), United States v. Butler, 1936.

Note that I have yet to find a reference to United States v. Butler in the Wickard v. Filburn opinion, corrections welcome.

The reason that corrupt federal lawmakers have been getting away with usurping state powers and stealing associated state revenues in the form of constitutionally indefensible federal taxes as evidenced by this farm bill is the following imo. Sadly, parents are not making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as the Founding States had intended for those powers to be understood.

37 posted on 02/03/2014 1:50:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: ZULU

bastards.


38 posted on 02/03/2014 2:03:34 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

The FET of $.0015 is on every gallon.


39 posted on 02/03/2014 2:16:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: ZULU

2/10 of cent per gallon. It’s not really the fee, but one more stinking form for the companies to fill out and track.


40 posted on 02/03/2014 2:19:36 PM PST by glorgau
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To: ZULU

Right now K1 heating fuel is over $700.00 for 150 Gallons(minimum delivery). 1 traditional fuel tank holds 275 Gallons. Multiply that by a couple of tanks for best case. Then do the math on what it is costing many people to heat their homes.


41 posted on 02/03/2014 2:31:49 PM PST by Revel
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To: hadaclueonce

There you go, someone is getting a kickback.


Possible that commie f*ck-wad Joe Kennedy (aren’t they all?), friend of Hugo Chavez and the “Venezualan people.” Joey-boy ran the commie Hugo’s oil-for-kennedys program.


42 posted on 02/03/2014 3:14:53 PM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Off road diesel is dyed red and moves into home heating and mining, logging, etc.
How will anyone know which gallon to tax ?


They know. Mrs. Peet works for a small regional fuel company and does taxes and suchlike accounting. Record-keeping is finnicky to say the least. You can cheat if you want, but you better be willing to do the time if you get caught...

I buy dyed diesel by the 5-gallon can for my Cub Cadet tractor. You can not use it (legally) in on-road vehicles since the (same as gasoline) tax for highway maintenence isn’t levied on dyed diesel.

Reminds me of a joke (doesn’t EVERYthing?)

[Orvill and Cooter are sittin’ on the front porch after a long day workin’ in the fields.]

Orvill: Hey, Cooter, lookey there.

Cooter: Wut?

Orvill: Ain’t them city folk siphonin’ fuel out of your Deere?

Cooter: Yep.

Orvill: Aintcha gonna do anythin’ about it?

Cooter: Nope.

Orvill: Why not?

Cooter: I wanna see how far that fancy automobile goes on deisel...


43 posted on 02/03/2014 3:30:27 PM PST by Peet (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: ZULU

Nah, this is for the common good, trust them.


44 posted on 02/03/2014 5:55:01 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: 12th_Monkey
You are right. Most home heating oil is used in the backwaters of the Northeast and New England, blue cesspools all. 'Rats must be pretty confident that they have those suckers in the bag.
45 posted on 02/03/2014 10:22:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Drumbo; ZULU

D’joo read this crap? No matter, by the time I can put some oil in the now-empty tank, I’ll have survived a third winter on it anyways!


46 posted on 02/03/2014 11:08:48 PM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: ZULU

I don’t think the Feds will be happy until people start burning garbage inside their houses to stay warm in the winter.


47 posted on 02/04/2014 2:07:49 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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