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Theory: Republicans Want to Win the 2014 Election Narrowly, Without the Tea Party
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | February 3, 2014 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/03/2014 2:12:01 PM PST by SMGFan

RUSH: Look, I ran into something over the weekend that I want to run by you very soon here after we get through with this segment and at the start the next segment. Everybody's trying to figure out, "Why in the world are the Republicans acting suicidal with this amnesty business?" Everybody. It doesn't make sense no matter how you slice it, unless the Republicans are trying to damage themselves.

That's the only way it makes sense. The only way a Republican push for amnesty and immediate citizenship and all that makes any sense is if, for example, they don't like the Tea Party base and they're gonna do anything they can to anger them and get rid of them. So I ran across a theory that's being bandied about out there, and I'm gonna run it by you, just to show you how wacko this is getting.

(Excerpt) Read more at rushlimbaugh.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014election; gop; gope; rinos; rushlimbaugh; rushlive; rushtranscript; teaparty

1 posted on 02/03/2014 2:12:01 PM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

When a nation finds a spy from another country, they kick them out or jail them. It’s one thing to label Republicans as RINOs. It’s about time to label some as Democrat infiltrators who are sabotaging the Republican party.


2 posted on 02/03/2014 2:14:50 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: SMGFan

“Everybody’s trying to figure out, “Why in the world are the Republicans acting suicidal with this amnesty business?”

Simple. Huge wads of cash from the open borders lobby.


3 posted on 02/03/2014 2:14:52 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: SMGFan

!


4 posted on 02/03/2014 2:16:40 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: SMGFan

They aren’t going to win squat without conservative voters.


5 posted on 02/03/2014 2:22:53 PM PST by dainbramaged (Windage and elevation, Mrs. Langdon; windage and elevation.)
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To: SMGFan

Rush is on to something.
The GOP wants to depress Tea Party votes, but not enough for them to
lose the house.


6 posted on 02/03/2014 2:23:21 PM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: SMGFan

Interesting theory that does make sense.

Why would the RINO Establishment want to win and win big IF that means that they will then be in a position to be held to account for their actions/inactions?

If they can maintain the stauts quo, they get to enjoy all of the perks and privileges of “power” without having the headache of accountability or responsibility.

How many times have we been told that “right now, we don’t have the votes to actually do something about these outrages of the day, but in the NEXT cycle, when WE have control...yada, yada, yada....”

I have a better idea. Let’s replace these spineless cowards with some REAL Patriotic Americans that will actually place the Country above their own personal interests?


7 posted on 02/03/2014 2:24:07 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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Vote out the RINOs this 2014!


8 posted on 02/03/2014 2:24:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dainbramaged

It is not clear that they can win anything without conservative and moderate and small l libertarian voters. I, and more than a few others, are not sure they can win without all three of these voting bases, which I wish was not so but sadly that is how it seems to be. And so we have a fairly sticky situation here quite frankly.


9 posted on 02/03/2014 2:24:37 PM PST by freedom462
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To: SMGFan

I agree.

The hogs do not want the trough moved.

They are being furnished with cash, booze and willing women.

RINO’s want you to send them back. How dare someone care about the constitution.


10 posted on 02/03/2014 2:24:45 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: SMGFan

Our response, sadly, will have to be GO OUT AND VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT in order to PUNISH the cretins who came up with this.

We’ll still be going to Hell, just at a slightly faster pace.


11 posted on 02/03/2014 2:26:19 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SMGFan; All

As mentioned in related threads, please consider the following. If patriots can win 2/3 conservative majority control of both Houses of Congress in ‘14, then Congress will be positioned to do the following.

Congress will have the power, under the Constitution’s Clause 2 of Section 7 of Article I, to override presidential vetoes. In other words, Congress will be able to repeal Obamacare without Obama’s signature for example.


12 posted on 02/03/2014 2:26:44 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: SMGFan

I think that the old guard Republicans are afraid that the TEA Party will take over the party and throw them in the street. Which is exactly what we intend to do.


13 posted on 02/03/2014 2:27:29 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: SMGFan

Later, Rush rejects the theory, in favor of Occam’s razor.

“The simple answer is that moneyed Republican donors, as epitomized by the Chamber of Commerce, are demanding it, and money is the mother’s milk of politics.

These donors are saying, “If you want our money — and further, if you want a high-paying job with my trade association when your career is over in Congress — then you’ll give me this.” That’s the simple explanation. They’re simply responding to the money people. But that’s not good enough for some. “It’s got to be more. It can’t be that. They wouldn’t be willing to commit suicide.”

Well, they’re not. The people who are gonna score with high-paying jobs after doing this are not committing suicide. They are, in effect, greasing the skids.”


14 posted on 02/03/2014 2:28:02 PM PST by Hugin
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To: SMGFan
I see. Let's take our team and go in and plan to win the Super Bowl by one point, no more.

What could possibly go wrong with a great plan like that?

15 posted on 02/03/2014 2:28:03 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: SMGFan

They{Tokyo Rove ect) think they are h0t $#1t, when in truth they are arrogant little bitc##5. F them.


16 posted on 02/03/2014 2:30:05 PM PST by Manic_Episode (F the Whigs)
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To: Manic_Episode

“Wanting to win” isn’t going to cut it WITHOUT the Tea Party and they damn well know it. The repub RHINO’s had better wake up and accept that the Tea Party is here to stay no matter with or without the Repubs.


17 posted on 02/03/2014 2:33:44 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: SMGFan

Some people are happy playing for the Washington Generals - they can maintain gainful employment with no pressure to perform well or win and still get to mug for the crowd once in a while.


18 posted on 02/03/2014 2:40:08 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: tennmountainman
--The GOP wants to depress Tea Party votes, but not enough for them to lose the house.--

So...kind of like a hard core junkie who wants to take enough for a super high but not enough to kill them. What a plan!

19 posted on 02/03/2014 2:45:08 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: SMGFan

Video – 19 minutes
RUSH: GOP Want A Narrow Win With Amnesty, To Anger Tea Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6ir0PFiwzE


20 posted on 02/03/2014 2:45:54 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: aimhigh
I don't think there are Democrat infiltrators in the GƠP. The GOP is itself a division of the greater Democrat Party. The GOP's function is to operate as a show Opposition for so long as the Democrats feel a visible Opposition is still needed. And there are not Democans and Republicrats. They are all just Democrat Socialists. The Tea Party is the only actual Opposition now and a certain percentage of Tea Party types immediately become functioning Democrats upon election, Rubio, for instance.
21 posted on 02/03/2014 2:46:49 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: headstamp 2

I’ve often wondered how many have been promised positions on the right boards after they’re voted out.


22 posted on 02/03/2014 2:47:18 PM PST by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: hadaclueonce

“They are being furnished with cash, booze and willing women.”

Damn! I shoulda gone into politics!


23 posted on 02/03/2014 2:51:10 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SMGFan

They will probably end up losing it narrowly without the TP.


24 posted on 02/03/2014 2:56:15 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: SMGFan

Theory has too many moving parts. There has never been any intention to have a house vote on amnesty in this Congress.


25 posted on 02/03/2014 3:07:56 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Right Wing Assault

As much sa I hate to say it; but, it looks to me like Savage was right. There really is no difference between the 2 parties. I wonder when Rush is goiong to get around to doing the same?


26 posted on 02/03/2014 3:12:18 PM PST by Jean2
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To: SMGFan

I couldn’t believe it when I heard Rush say that today. It’s exactly what I’ve been thinking - or close to it. The GOPe doesn’t want a Republican majority in Congress, they’re happy just to win their own seats back. They don’t want to change the status quo, and they think the TEA party is the opponent even more than the Democrats….which they are of course.


27 posted on 02/03/2014 3:52:00 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: Jean2

The TEA party has made astounding successes for such a new grassroots movement. We are changing the Republican Party and taking it back to it’s conservative positions. We are the first group to infiltrate the upper eschelons of government with any success. In the 2014 elections, we will
we will add to those numbers. There is and will be a difference between the DP and the RP. Yes we can!


28 posted on 02/03/2014 4:00:31 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (Unite in the primary to unseat RINOs...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: SMGFan

The GOP simply do not want to be an engaged opposition party while Obama is in the WH. They would happy take the Senate but don’t expect them to govern in a Conservative manner.

McConnell has already let the cat out of the bag. He has said: “We need to wait until 2016”.


29 posted on 02/03/2014 4:05:34 PM PST by lodi90
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To: SMGFan

I USED to be a conservative Republican, but the Republican Party elite does not want anything to do with actual conservatives. I’m one of the people Mitch McConnell would like to punch in the nose. (It would be fun to see him try...)

I’m still a Conservative, but no longer a Republican. I’m part of a movement looking for a leader.

Sarah Palin is a natural for this, but as far as I can tell she has decided NOT to pick up the mantel of leadership.

Personally, I think she decided demonization by both parties and the national media has damaged her so much that any campaign by her would not be in the best interest of the country or the conservative movement. She is still helping from the sidelines, and I am still sending her money. But I no longer expect her to carry the burden of leadership.

Ted Cruz may be our best hope. He does not have Sarah’s charisma, and so far I do not see him catching fire. Both parties and the national media are trying to destroy him, of course. So far they have not, so perhaps I am under-rating him.

Regardless, the Republican Party will never see another dime of my money and not a minute of my time.


30 posted on 02/03/2014 4:08:25 PM PST by EternalHope (Be ready.)
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To: arthurus
I don't think there are Democrat infiltrators in the GƠP. The GOP is itself a division of the greater Democrat Party. ----- Disagree. There are true believer marxists in the Dem camp. The careerist moderate Dems have moved over into the GOP tent and take whatever position is necessary to keep the checks coming in. They are the only reason the GOP has a House majority now.
31 posted on 02/03/2014 4:09:44 PM PST by lodi90
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To: stilloftyhenight

There were ten GOP members of the House willing to oppose Boehner’s leadership and I consider them the real Conservatives. Folks like Massie from KY and Amash from MI and Stockman from TX.

Maybe there are a few more but not that many in the House right now.


32 posted on 02/03/2014 4:10:36 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

If we don’t get enough constitutional conservatives in office to save the US, there’s no point in slowing down the total collapse of the US. We just might be better off if there’s some memory of the way things used to be, when localities have to start over.


33 posted on 02/03/2014 4:14:04 PM PST by grania
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To: SMGFan

Without Tea Party Support, the GOP will not win the Senate. The GOP leadership are the stupidest politicians I have ever seen in my life.


34 posted on 02/03/2014 4:14:35 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Jean2

Savage? What about George Wallace? “There ain’t a dimes worth of difference between them”


35 posted on 02/03/2014 4:17:28 PM PST by mistfree (Their & There, they're not the same)
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To: Howie66

I’ve always said a third party is needed. And if that party when a few seats in congress ask the republicans to caucus with them and see what they say. I guarantee if a third party won 40% of the house the republicans would help elect Pelosi speaker.


36 posted on 02/03/2014 4:19:21 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Howie66
Why would the RINO Establishment want to win and win big IF that means that they will then be in a position to be held to account for their actions/inactions? If they can maintain the stauts quo, they get to enjoy all of the perks and privileges of “power” without having the headache of accountability or responsibility.

Their behavior makes sense IF you assume that the real objective of the Republican Establishment is to maintain the PRETENSE of there being actual opposition to Socialism.

In other words, the Democrat Leadership and the Republican Leadership are just a matching pair of sock-puppets for the Ruling Class.

As long as the Republican Leadership maintains just a pretense, without reality, then they can engage in graft, get invited to the best parties, sleep with cute lobbyists, etc, and the press will not "notice". The nightmare for the Ruling Class, though, is if the "bought" Republicans get replaced by Tea Party candidates who might rock the boat.

37 posted on 02/03/2014 4:21:33 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

We don’t need a third party.

We do need a second party.

As it stands with the GOP Establishment, we only have one.

We have to take our party back.


38 posted on 02/03/2014 4:21:50 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: PapaBear3625

I couldn’t have said it better!

Thanks!


39 posted on 02/03/2014 4:24:09 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Howie66

I recommend the link. It’s to an excellent American Spectator article:

http://spectator.org/articles/39326/americas-ruling-class-and-perils-revolution


40 posted on 02/03/2014 4:27:12 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Will check it out!

Thanks!


41 posted on 02/03/2014 4:48:21 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: SMGFan

Republicans winning a majority without the Tea Party is like Democrats winning a majority without organized labor, Blacks and the rest of their Marxist supporters.


42 posted on 02/03/2014 5:16:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: lodi90
The GOP simply do not want to be an engaged opposition party

To paraphrase Barbie, "Being the opposition party is hard work!"

43 posted on 02/03/2014 5:45:46 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: mistfree

That is certainly true.


44 posted on 02/04/2014 12:51:39 PM PST by Jean2
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