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Why the U.S. Military Canít Kill the Benghazi Attackers With a Drone Strike
Time ^ | February 2, 2014 | By Mark Thompson

Posted on 02/04/2014 1:17:18 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

It was most assuredly an act of war. Insurgent Libyans, some plainly inspired by, if not directly linked to al Qaeda, attacked sovereign U.S. territory in Benghazi on Sep. 11, 2012. In two separate strikes on diplomatic outposts in that eastern Libyan city, they killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, computer expert Sean Smith, and embassy security personnel (and former Navy SEALs) Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods.

In the 16 months since, the perpetrators remain at large. What is becoming clear is that the U.S. has tied its own hands in trying to bring those responsible to justice.

“The individuals related in the Benghazi attack, those that we believe were either participants or leadership of it, are not authorized use of military force,” Army General Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a top-secret hearing of the House Armed Services Committee Oct. 10.

Dempsey said the U.S. military could do little more than act like a sheriff’s posse, sent out to round up suspects.

“In other words, they don’t fall under the AUMF [Authorization for Use of Military Force] authorized by the Congress of the United States,” Dempsey continued, in testimony declassified Jan. 13. “So we would not have the capability to simply find them and kill them, either with a remotely-piloted aircraft or with an assault on the ground.”

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1 posted on 02/04/2014 1:17:18 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

WTF? They don’t fall under the AUMF? When has that ever stopped Obama from breaking the law?


2 posted on 02/04/2014 1:41:27 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Of course not. However, in this case obastard is protecting his Muslim Brotherhood allies, so use of force under AUMF is unsurprisingly denied...


3 posted on 02/04/2014 1:48:13 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

“So we would not have the capability to simply find them and kill them, either with a remotely-piloted aircraft or with an assault on the ground.”

Sooo, I suppose having them die in a nuclear test
gone horribily wrong is right out too.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 1:54:40 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

...but if a 19 year old American makes a propaganda video for Al Qaeda, 0bama can drone strike him because the kid is on the President’s kill list.

Got it!


5 posted on 02/04/2014 1:59:12 AM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I’m far less interested in killing or capturing the actual physical culprits than I am in finding out what went on in the Obama White House in regard to the attack. Terrorists are a dime a dozen. Finding the liars who helped swing a presidential election: Priceless.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 1:59:42 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

After you feed BS to your own people for months and months you can’t change directions and say, “I know we told you it was just a riot because of a film, but now we’ve decided it was an act of war under the label of terrorism.”


7 posted on 02/04/2014 1:59:45 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
I’m far less interested in killing or capturing the actual physical culprits than I am in finding out what went on in the Obama White House in regard to the attack. Terrorists are a dime a dozen. Finding the liars who helped swing a presidential election: Priceless.

^^^^^This - every day of the week and 6 times on Sunday!!!^^^

8 posted on 02/04/2014 2:07:12 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Benghazi was the site of a ARMS TRADING DEAL where WE, thru Amb. Stevens were ARMING OUR ENEMIES with MANPADS....surface to Air missiles!!!!

MAybe Boehner was briefed about it and that's why he's not going to pursue the investigation!!

9 posted on 02/04/2014 2:12:29 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

I have to disagree with your priorities there. Our dead Navy SEALs deserve justice. There is no reason we shouldn’t pursue killing the actual culprits. We already know who swung a presidential election and we’ll never get justice in that arena as long as Dirty Harry holds the Senate.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 2:16:03 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"When has that ever stopped Obama from breaking the law?"

When the person to whom you refer is the man at the bottom of the rabbit bole. (The power behind the power behind the insurgents, as it were.)

11 posted on 02/04/2014 2:34:05 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Y’create a law that outlaws law and voila! .. castrated !


12 posted on 02/04/2014 3:29:52 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Republicanprofessor; SoConPubbie; Nachum; SeekAndFind; ConorMacNessa; All

BTTT!

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Attention Speaker Boehner: Impeach Obama in 2014, PERIOD!


13 posted on 02/04/2014 3:41:45 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...

Benghazi ping.

Let Republicanprofessor know if you want on or off this ping list.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 3:58:09 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Why the U.S. Military Can’t Kill the Benghazi Attackers With a Drone Strike

...because Obama is saving his drones to kill Tea Party "terrorists"; the real Enemy of the State, at least in Obama's mind.

15 posted on 02/04/2014 4:01:47 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Just a personal suspicion here, but I'm thinking if they were to drone strike some of the real perpetrators of the Benghazi attacks, the strikes would end up being somewhere on the eastern seaboard of CONUS.
16 posted on 02/04/2014 4:11:58 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Right.

Bottom line...if the US had more ‘cordial’ relations with Israel... maybe the Benghazi wrecking crew would be food for the worms, already!


17 posted on 02/04/2014 4:19:17 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They were working for obama and clinton in a black ops gun running trade that if made public... would bring down the US Government and most agencies involved. Think syria and Egypt... Egypt woke up and got lean and mean and dealt with the Butcher of Benghazi and obama’s agenda. This is not rocket science people.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 4:33:51 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Even in the most restrictive ROE, fleeing with intent to regroup in order to do harm justifies shoot to kill.

Dempsey is a windbag putz.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 4:41:04 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I think hillary got money donations or will get campaign donations in the US from these terrorist families. That is all she cares about... campaign money.


20 posted on 02/04/2014 4:42:31 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So we would not have the capability to simply find them and kill them, either with a remotely-piloted aircraft or with an assault on the ground.”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Not true. A simple finding by our so called “president” ( who in all reality is a traitor to America) at the CIA would have the perpetrating ring leaders tracked down and terminated.


21 posted on 02/04/2014 5:06:38 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: BuckeyeTexan

What is it? The United States can’t multitask?

I’m with you, we need to make individual terrorists pay the price themselves, along with their backers, even if they wake up every morning in the White HOuse.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 7:06:49 AM PST by chesley
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To: lavaroise

Yep... her soul belongs to satan under contract.


23 posted on 02/04/2014 7:17:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
This is a formal and largely unilateral decision by the Obama WH on how to interpret the AUMF.

the U.S. government’s narrow definition of terrorists covered by the authorization

Obama and his administration, including Hillary who could have resigned in protest, but didn't, don't want to bring these guys to justice. They didn't want to protect against this attack.

Why? What was going on at Benghazi that made the attack and assassination of an American ambassador worthwhile?

24 posted on 02/04/2014 8:49:12 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; Hetty_Fauxvert

I pick:

C. Both.

We need to hold the Senate to form the committees to pursue Obama through his next two years. It counts against Hillary as well. Drip it out over time.

The sad story is that, if Hetty’s right, there are GOP forces that won’t want the whole truth out ever.


25 posted on 02/04/2014 8:51:41 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

I pick:

C. Both

* * *

Well, yes. You’re right. But I’ve become sort of numb about terrorists now. They seem like rabid animals to me now: impossible to reason with or tame, so you just put them down as quickly as possible.

However, I’d LOVE it if they could capture and waterboard some of the actual physical perpetrators . . . and find out what, if any, connection there was with any U.S. citizens in this whole debacle. Find out if there really was gun-running etc. Find out just how far to the top this whole ugly story travels. I bet it would go pretty far.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 12:00:41 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The torture, abuse, and murder of a POW named Momar Gaddafi was a war crime yet Hillary Clinton and Lanny Davis are cheering that US sponsored activity "WE came, WE saw, HE DIED!!!" - Sec. of Hate Hillary Clinton.

FUBO

Time lies. Boycott Time-Warner-Turner

27 posted on 02/04/2014 3:22:47 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

When Dempsey uses “we” he means “I”, “myself” or “my contemporaries”. Not the POTUS.

He did good by Obama, he can keep his job a little longer and what’s more important than that?!?! There might be a book deal in this yet for him, but not likely.

Otherwise, when did congress approve drone strikes in Yemen or Pakistan...?


28 posted on 02/04/2014 3:44:33 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

[When Dempsey uses “we” he means “I”, “myself” or “my contemporaries”. Not the POTUS.]

This is just another false obstacle the White House has erected to help the killers fade back into obscurity. I believe the Benghazi attack was about destroying or disrupting the U.S. sponsored gun running project supporting the Syrian rebels. I think Syria, Iran or possibly Russia contracted local jihadists to attack the U.S. facilities and personnel in Benghazi employed in the project. The last thing Obama wants is to bring any of these guys to trial.


29 posted on 02/04/2014 4:19:11 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

This article is very critical of Barry’s AUMF interpretation so I am surprised to see it in Time Mag.

Thanks for posting!


30 posted on 02/04/2014 5:41:07 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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