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The Massive Liberal Failure on Race
Slate ^ | February 3, 2014 | Tanner Colby

Posted on 02/04/2014 2:16:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Five years ago, while fervently supporting the candidacy of the man who would become America’s first black president, I came to the realization that I didn’t actually know any black people....One,maybe two,was the norm....

I wanted to know why integration—actual,genuine integration—had failed so spectacularly. The result....was Some of My Best Friends Are Black:The Strange Story of Integration in America, which traced the history of the color line back through all the places I have lived and chronicled the various efforts to erase it:school busing, affirmative action, air housing, etc....

...after eight miserable years of George W. Bush and the euphoria of the Yes We Can crusade,I’d been driven pretty far left on the political spectrum. Taking on the issue of race, you’d think I’d have kept heading in that direction. But the more I read and researched,the more I went out and talked to people,I found that a funny thing was happening: I was becoming more conservative.

Which is not to say I was becoming a Republican. Because how could I? At this point,the GOP’s rap sheet of racial offenses is almost too long to recount.....

...The left has been ceded a monopoly on caring about black people, and monopolies are dangerous. They create ossified institutions, paralyzed by groupthink and incapable of self-reflection. To the extent that liberals are willing to be self-critical, it’s generally to flagellate themselves for not being liberal enough, for failing to stand fast with the old, accepted orthodoxies. Monopolies also lead to arrogance and entitlement, and the left is nothing if not arrogant when it comes to constantly and loudly asserting its place as the One True Friend of Black America. And yet, as good as liberal policies on race sound in speeches, many of them don’t hold up in the real world...

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; bussing; fairhousing; innercity; integration; racism

1 posted on 02/04/2014 2:16:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Worth a full read.

There’s the expected “snarky” injection [they just can’t admit they’re responsible for creating this mess] about Republicans and racial politics, but these asides only serve as minor “speed bumps” to the author’s realization that Big Government doesn’t work.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 2:37:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Worth a full read.”

I actually plowed through the whole thing, admittedly skipping the legalese.

I’ll give him his answers and save him the trouble of his part 2

Charter schools. School choice. Local control and ridding the system of the various teachers’ unions.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 2:49:07 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
trotting out candidates like Herman Cain

If that is not a racist statement, I don't know what it.

4 posted on 02/04/2014 2:49:24 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

He’s trying to keep the liberal Slate reader along for the ride while he makes the case that liberals screwed up, big time.


5 posted on 02/04/2014 2:52:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, his opening ripping of Republicans and conservatives is meant to suck the Slate libs into his following trashing of forced integration so loved by the libs who want to control everyone’s life.

Hang in there. Once you get past that opening salvo, he tells us all the things those of us who lived through that era already know. But coming from a Slate lib, the readers might actually start to see the truth in his arguments.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 3:00:43 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: onyx

It’s like a knife through his ribs to “admit” that conservatives were right (so he couches all that “legalese” in a dark light).

Now that this liberal [trending conservative] sees the devastation Democrats brought on the black family, he thinks it’s time to reconsider those choices.

Gosh, what else could they possibly have gotten wrong?

Hmmmmmm?


7 posted on 02/04/2014 3:02:02 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Where's the de rigueur Sarah Palin joke/put-down/denunciation? It's not an authentic Slate/Salon/Nation/MSNBC article without it.
8 posted on 02/04/2014 3:08:22 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: expat1000
When was the last time a rat referred to freedom, our natural rights?

Pushing undemocratic voter ID laws,. . . you can count on Republicans being wrong early and often.

The Left just loves democracy. It is the ruse that keeps on giving. It is so bad that most Americans equate freedom with democracy.

Absent the second democratic house in congress, the senate, there is no way the Left could have built its unconstitutional structures these past 80 years.

It is the second house of demagogues that threaten and may ultimately destroy our republic. The 17th must go.

9 posted on 02/04/2014 3:21:39 AM PST by Jacquerie (To destroy America, destroy Christianity.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s face it, like everything else it was LIBERALISM that ruined racial integration.

The no consequences, if it feels good do it, soft on crime attitude of the left gave black people a license to commit crime. A license that they still hold to this day as even a cursory glance at this website shows.

This made, and continues to make, the idea of living in close proximity to blacks anathema to most non-black people.

Of course, the criminal underclass has now been expanded to include many Hispanics also, who are also given a get out of jail free card by liberal elites.

The sixties was pretty much the worst thing that ever happened to America. Without all that bogus “liberation” things might be very different today and we might have true integration.

But unless and until we get rid of the group-identity obsessed Left, or at least get their paws off the levers of power, we’ll all continue to muddle on. People, as my Irish grandmother used to say, set against one and other by those in power to serve the powerful’s own ends.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 3:37:34 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If we want any kind of long-term solution to this problem, we have to look at housing, zoning, mass transit, property taxes. That’s where the roots of our racially balkanized and economically stratified cities lie.

That's a ironic statement considering all this diversity and multicultural push of the last 50+ years is causing a balkanization from which untold damage is being done and we will never recover. Of course the preceding sentence is the heart of what is trying to be accomplished. They will force by law and gun integration at all levels from housing to schools to even churches and anything else that is deemed too white. I wouldn't be surprised at some point that they would try to force integration into families.

There is only one thing that can stop this destruction.

11 posted on 02/04/2014 3:43:28 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Great article. The author understands what integration is and isn’t. He makes the case against big-government regulation in the education system, but sadly, at the end, he suggests we look at housing, zoning, and property taxes. So while he admits that big-government regulation was a blight on public education and, ultimately, on the black community as a whole, he seems to think we should point the power of big-government regulation at the very fabric of society - the right to pay for better housing and better schools. In short, he wants property tax redistribution from the wealthy and middle class to the lower class. Did he learn nothing?


12 posted on 02/04/2014 3:45:29 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Altura Ct.

Indeed.

We both read the same sentence and realized what he’s really after. Failed through education? Try housing and taxes.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 3:50:17 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: expat1000

We’re supposed to ignore the rodents trotting out their unqualified affirmative action Presidential candidate.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 3:53:40 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Which is not to say I was becoming a Republican. Because how could I? At this point, the GOP’s rap sheet of racial offenses is almost too long to recount....."

Does this fella really want to go down that path and compare BOTH the parties on this account ? The Democrats will lose, and BIG time.

15 posted on 02/04/2014 3:55:08 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

White Guilt, thy name is FOOL


16 posted on 02/04/2014 4:00:02 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When my daughters were in elementary school they had friends of all races and invited them to sleepovers. When listening to them they all sounded the same.

Somewhere around the 8th grade one of them came home crying. She said she had asked one of her black friends why she didn’t hang out with her any more. The girl replied with “You’re not black enough.”

By the time they graduated most blacks had self segregated themselves and they spoke the ghetto talk.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 4:01:09 AM PST by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I couldn’t read the whole thing for once but I did see where he said that Republicans... Well here’s his own words.

“Even when Republicans have a legitimate point to make about the shortcomings of some government program, it’s almost as if they can’t help blowing their own argument. They’ll start off talking sensibly enough about educational outcome disparities and within seconds they’re rambling incoherently about how black men don’t take care of their babies. It’s really astonishing to watch.”

And how about this:

” At this point, the GOP’s rap sheet of racial offenses is almost too long to recount. Pushing undemocratic voter ID laws, trotting out candidates like Herman Cain, calling Barack Obama the “food stamp president” … if it has to do with race, you can count on Republicans being wrong early and often.”

Hmmm, Racial Offenses? The few he mentions don’t seem like offenses to me. Unless of course he means that the republican are wrong to try and stop vote fraud and that only democrats can have Black politicians.

And under Obama food stamp usage has increased and even there it’s in the white population because they are the ones most impacted by his economic policies. Sadly the black population was pretty much already saturated welfare and food stamp wise.

Other than the three he mentioned I would like to see his list of racial offenses.

Now I will give him credit that he’s trying to be fair and point the finger at both political parties but his earlier prejudices and near-automatic assumption of ‘If a Republican proposed it there must be something wrong with it’, is very irritating yet illuminating of his inner conflicts.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 4:17:03 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The conservative position that libs never understand is that we consider blacks to be fully capable and adult humans being that do not require assistance from us to live their lives.

The so-called help provided by liberals has hamstrung multiple generations of blacks and stunted their economic growth.

Sadly, until blacks reject the baby bottle being shoved down their throats by gov they'll never progress.

19 posted on 02/04/2014 4:17:59 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
.The left has been ceded a monopoly on caring about black people,

I practice the outmoded and abhorrent habit of treating people as individuals, rather than as the embodiment of racial, ethnic, gender and class stereotypes. I know that it is wrong, but I can't help it, it's the way I was raised.

20 posted on 02/04/2014 4:18:43 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (In the long run, we are all dead.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The writer admitted to not knowing many black people. He/she obviously knows NO Republicans or conservatives.


21 posted on 02/04/2014 4:21:07 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No surprise , unavoidably most of my friends and acquaintances are Democrat Progressive/Liberal (I live near Albany NY) and, aside from politics, almost none of the these Democrats know or socialize with Blacks. These Democrats are fleeing Albany City for the suburbs where their children attend lily white schools with other children with like minded parents. If anyone should suggest bussing to end the “Segregation” the suburban Democrats would fight it tooth and nail, after all, that sort of self interest is understandable to them, (not like those “Southern school districts”)..... but they certainly don’t acknowledge it.
If they live in Albany City, they send their children to Upscale Private schools which “surprisingly” is generous with their athletic scholarships to Blacks.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 4:37:41 AM PST by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Implicit in the column is the idea that for black Americans to rise, there must be some government program that will do it. What is omitted is the idea that maybe nothing can be done for a very large pct. of black Americans. Government has tried to cure the poverty and pathologies of the black underclass for fifty years. Nothing works.

Liberal policies certainly exacerbated things, but conservative ideas won't work with this group either. It's beyond help. If conservatives think free-market ideas and independence from gov. can appeal to a class of people who love to be victims and sponge off the gov. teat, they're dead wrong.

23 posted on 02/04/2014 4:37:47 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

I started high school the first year of integration (1968). The black kids really resented having to come to our school (of the four white/hispanic high schools, all the blacks came to mine). Before that, the black kids loved their schools, and nearly all graduated. There was very little illigitimacy.
Saw my first riot that year. The liberals own this. If they had left well enough alone, no busing, the racial divide would have healed itself.


24 posted on 02/04/2014 5:15:52 AM PST by TStro (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Tanner wants to talk about race? And blame Republicans?

Abraham Lincoln was a Republican. Does Tanner know what Lincoln did?

Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. Does Tanner know what King did?

Democrats started the KKK to frighten blacks away from voting booths. Does Tanner know what the KKK did?


25 posted on 02/04/2014 5:24:20 AM PST by abclily
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To: TStro

Heeling itself leaves no room for liberals to feel self-righteous.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 5:28:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Silly article written by a superfluous person.


27 posted on 02/04/2014 5:33:48 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What liberals never get is that segregation itself is a result of big government. Jim Crow laws are the proof. Just the fact that governments in the South had to pass these laws proves that at many levels integration was happening organically. There would have been no need to pass these laws if people were not interacting in a voluntary manner. No government passes laws to prevent something that is not happening. As for today, big government has crippled such a vast number of minority people economically that only a few have the resources to move to more integrated situation.


28 posted on 02/04/2014 5:53:00 AM PST by gusty
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To: TStro
Excellent article once you get past the typical liberal snarkiness.

The liberals own this. If they had left well enough alone, no busing, the racial divide would have healed itself.

I have a similar history to yours. I was in the Milwaukee public schools when busing started in 1978. We went from 64 blacks in a school of 2200 kids to 300 blacks.

Prior to busing we had no racial problems at all. Why? Because the black kids that were there were just like us. They (and their families) were already integrated into our school and our community.

Then they started busing and dropped 250 foreigners into our community. These kids were not us. They came from a totally different culture and they were on edge against us as we were on edge against them. We ended up with racial fights almost every day. There were "safe" restrooms for whites and places where you just didn't go unless you were in a large group. Our black kids didn't even like the newcomers.

Integration is not a racial thing. It's a cultural thing. And America in the late 50's was slowly integrating as the cultures of the blacks and the whites were becomming very much the same. My father's generation was more racist than my generation, and my children's generation would have been less racist than my generation.

Then busing happened and we were exposed to the bad part of black culture.

But there was still hope. Blacks were still integrating into white society and racial barriers were still falling. (and the greatest barrier is white perception of blacks as being "other" than us).

In my fraternity we had a handful of black brothers. They weren't thought of as "black" they were thought of as brothers. Just the same as the rest of us. It was in stark contrast to the residents of the neighborhood the house was in. Those people were blacks, they were not us as the culture was that different. And then obama happened and we saw that black inner city culture was against us and practiced violence towards us.

And now we are even more racist than our fathers were. (And our children will be even more racist. They recognize that they cannot trust people who attack them for merely being white)

I live in a small town. We have a small black community. But they are us. They are not "black" culturally so the color of their skin is no big deal. I have no problem at all with any black in my community. They're great people.

But I do not go into the big cities anymore. Those places are foreign war zones controlled by enemies. That culture is against me.

Integration will happen when the blacks once again become us. People want to live and be with people who are just like themselves. We self-segregate into cultural groups. Always have, always will. Until the blacks surrender their inner city culture and start acting like Americans they will be shunned into the ghettos. Integration will only happen when the blacks want to integrate. Because as long as they insist on practicing their inner city "culture" Whites will continue to flee from them.

(sorry for the rant)

29 posted on 02/04/2014 6:47:41 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: driftless2

What needs to be done is to cut off the government teat and let them learn in the school of hard knocks how to survive and even thrive.


30 posted on 02/04/2014 6:55:20 AM PST by chesley
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But there was still hope. Blacks were still integrating into white society and racial barriers were still falling. (and the greatest barrier is white perception of blacks as being "other" than us).

I disagree. Racial barriers in the United States are put up mainly by the blacks themselves. They want to maintain their dysfunctional culture. Until they want to adopt white culture, the one that actually created and maintains the country, they won't progress, for there is no place to progress to in theirs, except maybe neighborhood warlord.

I speak, of course, in the general, not the specific. I know a lot of blacks, work with them in fact, that are fine individuals, and depend only on their own efforts, not the government's.

31 posted on 02/04/2014 7:01:07 AM PST by chesley
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s not just the black family that was devastated, it was the cities. Nearly all of our major cities were turned into waste lands because of this.


32 posted on 02/04/2014 7:05:21 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: jocon307

The real moral of the story is that you cannot make people do something they don’t want to do. Its totally natural for people to congregate to their own kind. Nobody likes to admit it but its true. In Atlanta the govt has bussed the black kids into very upscale areas like Dunwoody so now the whites just put their kids in private school and 95% of the kids in the public school are black. Its ridiculous. You can’t change human nature. In 100 years journalists will still be trying to figure why can’t we get integration?


33 posted on 02/04/2014 7:07:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The author doesn’t go into detail on the subject, but I got something entirely different out of the statement about

“housing, zoning, and property taxes”

near the end.

I think the author means that if affordable housing is allowed to be built (by zoning that allows smaller homes to be built in an area) the property taxes would be affordable enough that integration will happen on it’s own naturally without the need for big government


34 posted on 02/04/2014 7:14:49 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: John O

you are exactly right.

It’s not about race it’s about culture.

Look at that little black girl being excorted into the school by those federal agents. Anyone can see she DESPERATELY wants to be a part of the white culture and should certainly be allowed into that school!

But just imagine that same picture with a black gang banger with his pants hanging down to his knees, ect. and your opinion completely changes.

This isn’t about race anymore, this is about culture and to a certain extent about class.


35 posted on 02/04/2014 7:34:12 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: chesley

I agree with you. We are saying the same thing from different sides. What causes white’s perceptions of blacks? Black’s behavior.


36 posted on 02/04/2014 10:20:22 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
At this point,the GOP’s rap sheet of racial offenses is almost too long to recount.....

And he won't list them.

37 posted on 02/04/2014 11:55:17 AM PST by TomServo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
the GOP’s rap sheet of racial offenses is almost too long to recount.

I, for one, would like to see this so-called rap sheet. WE didn't create the KKK. WE didn't stand in the way of the Civil Rights Act. Who did all that? Guess which party!

38 posted on 02/05/2014 10:46:19 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: NRA1995

As I remember ...

When the public accomodations law was proposed in Congress, which didn’t just outlaw the Jim Crow State laws in the South, but went the extra step to make it a federal crime for any business which served the public to “discriminate”.

Some farsighted Republicans said, “Wait a minute, that expands the scope of the Federal Government way beyond the limits set by the Constitution.”

Liberals responded with charges of racism, and black culture bought it. Republicans have been stuck with the “racism” label ever since.


39 posted on 02/12/2014 8:00:54 PM PST by Mack the knife
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