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Homemade gun range on owner’s residential yard is legal, according to Florida statute
Yahoo! News ^ | 1/27/14 | Charlene Sakoda

Posted on 02/04/2014 5:12:24 AM PST by Joe Brower

Homemade gun range on owner’s residential yard is legal, according to Florida statute
By Charlene Sakoda
January 27, 2014 6:00 PM

The gun control debate is always a hotly contested one pitting the sides against each other. So, it’s attention grabbing when a state law giving gun owners more freedom causes Second Amendment advocates to demand more regulations. The Miami Herald recently spoke to Doug Varrieur, a gun owner and homeowner in Big Pine Key, Florida. For the past month, Varrieur has exercised his Florida state right to shoot guns on his residential property every Wednesday from 3-4 p.m. in his homemade gun range.

Neighbors were concerned for the safety of citizens and pets, but were surprised when they found out that Florida statute 790.15 makes discharging a firearm on a residential property legal. It’s a law that not only surprised Varrieur’s neighbors, but also Varrieur himself.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; florida; rkba

1 posted on 02/04/2014 5:12:24 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
I wasn't sure if Yahoo! articles were restricted on FR, so I just published the excerpt. Needless to say, this has all the sheep wetting themselves, but Florida Statute 790.15 is quite clear.

Yes, some areas are too crowded to be practical or safe, but I guess it's too much to ask to trust our fellow citizens to know for themselves where the limits must be drawn -- no, gotta have a politician or a cop involved.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

2 posted on 02/04/2014 5:15:34 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


3 posted on 02/04/2014 5:16:24 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Joe Brower

Let the bedwetters whine.
Just don’t let them try and change the law.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 5:18:46 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Joe Brower; MHGinTN

ping


5 posted on 02/04/2014 5:19:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: RandallFlagg
I guess I can go out and again start blasting the squirrels off my roof.
6 posted on 02/04/2014 5:21:09 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Joe Brower
I wasn't sure if Yahoo! articles were restricted on FR

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts

Jim and the Admins keep this link updated.

7 posted on 02/04/2014 5:21:55 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Joe Brower

The dream of every shooter, their own personal range....


8 posted on 02/04/2014 5:43:42 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Joe Brower

Smart CCW holders know that its not the target, but whats beyond the target that limits what’s safe.

Almost no responsible gun owner will try this at home without acreage. I got 20 acres with a berm or two so yes, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of safe places in Florida to shoot on private property. And we don’t need no govt oversight, especially individual counties.


9 posted on 02/04/2014 5:46:19 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Joe Brower

Be that as Florida-legal as it might be, I’m not awfully impressed by his backstop. When I go to the range, I often notice that there are a bunch of little bullet craters in the ceiling. People do manage to hit stuff that they’re not aiming at. I wonder if his homeowners insurance company knows what he’s doing.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 5:47:26 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: thackney

Thanks for the link. I looked for this and could not find it. Perhaps putting it on the home page might be a good idea.


11 posted on 02/04/2014 5:47:31 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Mouton

I trap ‘em. $37 for a two trap deal at TCS. They’re a real menace with their nut shells and branches they break constantly hitting my roof. I also have a deer feeder in the front yard they plunder. I probably have the fattest squirrels in the county.

My understanding of this is all that’s needed is a back stop, like a pile of dirt, to convince the responding officers that it’s not a threat to neighhbors. I.e., some way of showing the round stops within the property. Other than that there’s the potential for a noise complaint so reasonable hours need to be observed.


12 posted on 02/04/2014 5:49:54 AM PST by Justa
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To: Joe Brower

I live in a VERY gun-friendly area, and this is handled at the local level. Some localities allow shooting, with sensible rules - like no shooting in the direction of roads and houses, ect. Outside of cities/towns, you can shoot as much as you like. Where I live, on some days it literally sounds like a war zone. Our nearest neighbor is over a mile away, so we shoot in our backyard as much as we like. We don’t shoot often though, because I don’t like using the ammo. Some calibers we’re a bit more free with than others. I’ll shoot 5.56 and 9mm quite a bit. I’ve stopped shooting any .22 completely. Have several thousand rounds of it, but until I see it as being easily replaced, I won’t be shooting it. Funny how we used to shoot .22 rather freely to avoid using more expensive ammo. Now .22 is ‘unobtainium’(compared to how it used to be).

Our property is several acres of fairly flat yard and woods. There was a good sized sand/dirt pile on the tree line in the back yard, and we thought it was so cool that the house we were buying came with a ready made good backstop.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 5:51:34 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Joe Brower

I’ve added it to my link page on FR.

At times when I’ve lost that due to poor editing, I seach for Admin Moderator. It is always there on their home page, along with other useful stuff.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 5:53:38 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Joe Brower

An open-air range per se might not be a good idea in many suburbs, but a place to test fire weapons would be.

Here’s an idea that works. Take a stout cardboard box about a foot cubed. Line the inside with rubber carpet pad material, adding up to at least an inch. Glue in square sheets of this rubber so they overlap in the corners, you’ll figure it out, it doesn’t take a master craftsman.

Cut an “X” in the top about 6” x 6”. The cuts obviously go through each sheet of rubber as well as the cardboard.

Put the box on the ground, stick the muzzle into the X and fire away. Your neighbors will never hear a thing, and the ground makes a fine bullet trap.


15 posted on 02/04/2014 5:55:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Justa

They love getting under the eaves and cutting through the screening into the attic. When I figure out their schedule, I just await their usual departure time and pop em with my 22 HandR 999 Sportsman. The 22 is undefeated in one shot kills.
Not too noisy and so far the neighbors just think it is me with my firecrackers!


16 posted on 02/04/2014 6:07:44 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Dutch Boy

Everybody in my neighborhood had their own personal gun range.

The roads are bad, it’s a long ways to the store and the county won’t get around to clearing our road for a week but it’s worth it.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 6:28:48 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Dutch Boy

That dream a reality for 20 years.....15 acres in heavy forest, my front yard is my range. Live out in the country where all my neighbors know, “if you hear shooting, grab your gun and come join us. If you don’t have one, we’ll let you use one of ours....”

A number of friends: “Hey, can we come shoot at your place today?” “Sure! Just be safe!”


18 posted on 02/04/2014 6:30:18 AM PST by Arlis
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To: Joe Brower

I wonder how his insurance company feels about insuring a gun range?

Yes we want to be able to shoot our guns, but we also have to use common sense regarding where it’s safe, or a good idea, to fire them.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 6:40:06 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Mouton
I guess I can go out and again start blasting the squirrels off my roof.

BB gun or air rifle will do the trick. Less noise and same effect.

20 posted on 02/04/2014 6:42:37 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: dangerdoc
I had a 500 yard range when I lived in Pennsylvania, off the porch.

Here in Alaska, along the Yukon; I have a 200 yard range. Nice to reload, set up chrono, and shoot off my back porch T bench.

I have one neighbor,(200 yards away), viet vet, shooting really gets him upset, bothers him; so to get along I usually only shoot when he's gone, and he travels often so it isn't such a big deal. For several years, we went around about my range. When I started shooting, every couple days for an hour or two; he'd start blowing off this air horn. I guess he was ready to call the cops which are 200 miles away and no restrictions where I call home. So When another friend told me it was all about Vietnam, I stopped shooting and approached the neighbor to see how we could settle this. I got a good neighbor now, not one that is ready to shoot me. Best thing I ever did actually. I reload, then when neighbor goes on one of his trips, I shoot for a few hours for several days in a row.

Funny, my neighbor told me that when I shot the 30-378, it shook his windows. I think the biggest problem with neighbors is the noise.

21 posted on 02/04/2014 6:44:46 AM PST by Eska
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To: Eska

Lucky for me, all my neighbors shoot and the guy closest to me is my brother and we frequently shoot together.

The only person I was afraid would give me trouble lives on the other side of a hill and I put my range directly across from the hill minimizing the noise.

One of my neighbors has a full auto I hear ripping off rounds from time to time, I need to get to know him.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 7:07:11 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Joe Brower

nice thing about here in Maine. It’s legal here in the town I live in. They even have a code page on how to build it. Basically your backstop has to be up to NRA range code, and be Oked by the town code officer!


23 posted on 02/04/2014 7:20:02 AM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Joe Brower

No matter how good a shot you are, you are being reckless and negligent shooting that close to other homes.


24 posted on 02/04/2014 7:21:19 AM PST by bgill
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To: Sooth2222

Exactly what Sooth2222 said: it might be legal but it sure doesn’t appear safe. I would not shoot under the conditions shown.

TC


25 posted on 02/04/2014 7:31:40 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Travis McGee
I fashioned a bullet trap/backstop for a range in my garage. It is a box 4 ft by 5 ft and 18 inches front to back, on heavy duty casters, filled with shredded rubber mulch. I use a bullet trap (steel) for .22 up to 32acp, with the constructed mulch holder as a backstop. If I want 15yards range, I just shoot from the kitchen, through the laundry opened door, into the garage.

A wheel carriage under the box raised the backstop 16 inches off the floor of the garage so I can roll it around out of the way when not shooting. I can test fire anything short of fifty cal by shooting into the end of the box of mulch. Traps the lead, also. I have made bullet traps for 9mm, 7.62x25, 9x18, and 45 acp using a tall cat litter bucket filled with rubber mulch and the top snapped on to place targets there. Shredded rubber mulch makes an excellent energy absorber. So far neighbors have not mentioned the muffled sounds from my garage.

26 posted on 02/04/2014 7:53:43 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Joe Brower
From the linked article: "This isn’t about the right to own and bear arms. "

In the minds of the anti-gunners, nothing ever is.

27 posted on 02/04/2014 9:19:20 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Mouton

solution...cut 1/4” hardware cloth to the size of your soffet vents and use this as backing behind the screen. they won’t chew through that. I paint it black first to if isn’t even visible. Keeps the fruit rats out of the attic here in Florida.


28 posted on 02/04/2014 9:25:23 AM PST by woollyone ("The heart is deceptive above all things and beyond cure...who can understand it?")
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To: dangerdoc
Actually, it's kinda funny. When Big Ears got elected first time, I started reloading; and of course a T bench & range were part of the whole game. The local Indians have a range but for the life of me, I wasn't going to use their range once I built my own; especially if a neighbor started telling me I was. So even though we live quite rural in Alaska, I had a neighbor upset. Once my buddy said it was Vietnam that haunted the neighbor and convinced me it was for real; I felt bad and wanted to settle this. My neighbor was with the riverines, in Mekong Delta. He showed me picts from on those boats, had a bunch of friends killed on river ambushes and such. But the good thing was once I looked for a solution, we became friends. Now the neighbor has key to my place and checks on my dog a few times a day when we go to town. I learned not to jump in a guys face until I got the entire picture, good lesson for me too.

Funny that I live further out in the wilderness than anywhere in lower 48; and had a complaint about gun noise, ha ha.

29 posted on 02/04/2014 2:12:04 PM PST by Eska
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To: Justa

I probably have the fattest squirrels in the county.


A fat squirrel is a mighty tasty squirrel. Enjoy.


30 posted on 02/04/2014 2:16:33 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: bgill

No matter how good a shot you are, you are being reckless and negligent shooting that close to other homes.


Speak for yourself.....none other.


31 posted on 02/04/2014 2:20:43 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Arlis
Reminds me of what I told an urban visitor to my place... He heard some shots and asked if we should call the Sheriff?

I replied that, here in the country we shoot and let shoot!!!

Same answer I gave to new residents in the area belonging to our "Loose" HOA who called me up in a panic about hearing gunshots!!!

32 posted on 02/07/2014 9:18:22 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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