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US State Dept: Without Keystone, Oil Trains May Cause 6 Deaths Per Year
Rig Zone ^ | February 03, 2014 | Reuters

Posted on 02/04/2014 8:47:21 AM PST by thackney

Replacing the Keystone XL pipeline with oil-laden freight trains from Canada may result in an average of six additional rail-related deaths per year, according to a U.S. State Department report that is adding to pressure for President Barack Obama to approve the line.

The long-awaited study, released on Friday, focused on the environmental impact of TransCanada's $5.4 billion pipeline, but also spent several pages analyzing the potential human impact of various ways to transport oil, using historical injury and fatality statistics for railways and oil pipelines.

Although it excluded the runaway oil train derailment that killed 47 people in Lac Megantic, Quebec, last summer, the tragedy that first shone a critical light on the rapidly expanding trend in shipping crude by rail, the findings highlight the risks or railway transport versus pipes.

Shipping another 830,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude "would result in an estimated 49 additional injuries and six additional fatalities for the No Action rail scenarios compared to one additional injury and no fatalities" per year if Keystone XL is built, according to the report.

Keystone XL would carry 830,000 bpd from Alberta's oil sands U.S. refiners, but has been awaiting a presidential permit for more than five years. The "No Action" options refer to the likely alternative outcomes if Obama rejects the permit or the project is not built for some other reason.

The report also showed that carrying crude by rail, instead of by pipeline, was likely to result in a higher number of oil spills and a larger amount of leakage over time.

(Excerpt) Read more at rigzone.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Montana; US: Nebraska; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: energy; keystonexl; oil; rail
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1 posted on 02/04/2014 8:47:21 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney
I’ve wondered lately if trains are unsafe these days due to flouting the FRA’s regulations—or due to complying with them. Transporting oil by train isn’t a new thing after all; oil tankers have been around since the 1880s at least.
2 posted on 02/04/2014 8:52:16 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Transporting oil by rail isn't new, but the volume has climbed quite a bit.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 8:55:19 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

How many dead people piled on Obama’s doorstep because of his indecisiveness does it take to stop voting present.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 8:56:31 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: thackney
Our nation energy policy run by OPEC has left us much to be desired to us people. The pResident wants to keep supplies low and prices high to maximize profits for OPEC. Big oil is one of the most controlled industries in the US and are held to low production to keep OPEC happy. With the cold and shortages it creates a death panel to cause Americans to freeze to death.
5 posted on 02/04/2014 8:56:40 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: thackney

On top of that, there are fewer main lines for trains to travel over—thanks to liberal government policies.

We’ll need the pipeline anyhow, but the FRA ought to back off and let the railroads handle the traffic without having to worry about being micromanaged from DC. Same goes for Canada and RAC.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 9:01:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: thackney
Keystone XL would carry 830,000 bpd from Alberta's oil sands U.S. refiners

This offsets 830,000 bpd of crude brought in by ocean-going tankers.

If the environment was the primary concern, this would be a good thing. If you could eliminate an endless parade of tankers crossing the Atlantic, or the Caribbean, why would you not?

I of course believe the point of denying Keystone is to protect the 830,000 bpd brought in from overseas. Denying Keystone hurts the environment but helps OPEC.

7 posted on 02/04/2014 9:05:17 AM PST by marron
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To: marron
Denying Keystone hurts the environment but helps OPEC.

BTTT

8 posted on 02/04/2014 9:08:42 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Olog-hai

You could not imagine how absolutely burdensome FRA compliance is. With every issue of the Federal Register, there is some new “Final Rule” published... cramming stuff up the railroad’s ass... The regulation, actually interferes with interstate commerce. Original intent, be damned.

You know, not every railroad in this country is a big Class 1 with shiny new 4400HP GE locomotives... there are hundreds and hundreds of shortline roads that are just trying to serve their local customer base and remain profitable... it’s often very difficult in the face of some looming Regulatory Watchdog like the FRA.

Once upon a time, railroad best practice was based on what worked and was profitable and safe. Safety was a continuous improvement process... this safety culture has existed was before it was regulated into being...

Now, railroads see the burden of compliance and say, “OK... well if THAT is the law, we will follow the law and NO MORE. We have been commanded to do so, and this way, there shall be zero deviation from 100% compliance and ZERO civil penalties”.


9 posted on 02/04/2014 9:20:52 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: thackney

Shipping by rail adds something like $15 bucks a barrel to the cost.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 9:34:19 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

The oil they ships by rail is discounted at the source so that the landed price at the refinery is the same or less as buying by ship.

There is also probably a higher cost to unloading a trainload of tanker cars than there is offloading a supertanker at your dock. Each tanker needs to be hooked up individually to the pipe and then unhooked when it drains out. With a tanker you many only hook up once or twice. Less labor involved, is less cost to the refinery.


11 posted on 02/04/2014 9:44:00 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: thackney
Since oil-by-rail will eventually, if they haven't already, kill someone from a racial, ethnic or sexual-preference minority (i.e. someone who "counts" to liberals), let me be the first to say:

Stop the Hate Trains!

12 posted on 02/04/2014 9:46:50 AM PST by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: marron

“Shipping by rail adds something like $15 bucks a barrel to the cost.”

Thus enriching the obama supporters who own rail lines.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 10:04:27 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: thackney
"oil-laden freight trains from Canada may result in an average of six additional rail-related deaths per year, according to a U.S. State Department

LOL, probably the same government computer modelling team that has been predicting the disappearance of the polar ice caps due to CO2 induced global warming...
14 posted on 02/04/2014 11:44:40 AM PST by indthkr
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To: thackney

Get on with it, build the darn thing already !


15 posted on 02/05/2014 4:52:17 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: thackney
Thackney I don't know all the engineering and such, but ?
I saw a video recently in how they make those drainage corrugated steel tubes.
These drainage corrugated steel tubes are made on a machine where they take a roll of steel and send it into some kind of break ? press ? that forms the corrugations.
Then it is some how extruded out of the machine and then it rolls the steel into the tube form.
From that point it is still on this machine that welds it.
All of this is done on one huge machine and then when it is at it's proper length it is cut.... cool to watch.
Could they build a pipe line like this ? or does the pipe line piece by piece and the steel tubes have to be steel tubes with welded straight seams ?
What I am hoping ? that they can build the Keystone pipeline in record time like they did with the Empire State building during the depression and 1930s.
16 posted on 02/05/2014 5:03:50 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist
Rolled welded pipe is used in some pipeline application. I am more familiar with seamless pipe for higher pressure applications, but I am not an metalurgical specialists. I don't think the pipe fabrication is going to be an issue delaying the pipeline.

It may even be already fabricated waiting for approval to install. This line has been in the works for a long time.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 5:13:58 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Actually, at this point I would be more conserned with the Pump Station equipment. That size stuff has a long lead time.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 5:16:16 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
I can guess so, just like the landing gears on jetliners, those type of things on a jetliner have a long lead time.
Another thing to take into consideration are those companies that do build those pumps, they won't be building one until they are sure they have orders from their costumer, it's not like these are off the self type of things that they could keep in stock.... they want their money first before they invest in their time and money to build one.
More like it's made to order.
19 posted on 02/07/2014 6:05:44 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: thackney

I would guess those seamless pipes are extruded.... I don’t think they would be forged.


20 posted on 02/07/2014 6:08:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

http://midstate-steel.com/how-pipe-is-manufactured.html


21 posted on 02/07/2014 6:45:23 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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