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Parents upset over ‘game' at middle school that asked questions like ‘Do your parents drink?’
Yahoo News ^ | 2-4-14 | Will lerner

Posted on 02/04/2014 9:57:17 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

The game was called “Cross the Line,” an ironic title because that’s exactly what parents of students at a middle school in Marinette, Wisconsin think the educators did. WLUK Fox 11 News is reporting that Marinette Middle School played the game in which 5th through 8th graders were grouped together and asked to step forward if they had a “yes” answer to questions like, “Do your parents drink?” and “Has anyone in your family been to jail?”

It’s unclear who exactly was leading the game. Parent Amanda Fifarek was not happy with the activity, telling WLUK, “It was too personal. It’s just things your kids don’t need to be disclosing to other kids.” It’s hard to argue with Ms. Fifarek. 6th grader Sarah Maitlin told the station, “[The school employee] asked if you ever wanted to commit suicide to step forward and then after that she asked if you ever experienced or wanted to cut, to step forward.” I’m going to say maybe that kind of conversation is best left to a one-on-one.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: childrenofthestate; commoncore; commoncoregame; crosstheline; education; forcedgame; marinette; personalquestions

1 posted on 02/04/2014 9:57:18 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; ...

Prying questions in Marinette Middle School

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

What is the matter with schools and ‘educators’ these days?


2 posted on 02/04/2014 9:59:53 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Gestapo Training.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 10:01:35 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What is called a game these days was called a survey when mine were in school. Same thing but prettied up. Told the kids then it was ok to lie on all those questions. The more outlandish the lie, the better.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 10:04:52 AM PST by bgill
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To: afraidfortherepublic

EVERY parent should teach their children what IS an appropriate question and what isn’t. I have done this with mine.. all 3. By Middle School, they are usually very adapt to answering anything they aren’t comfortable with. Elementary school is a bit trickier.. you have to detail what they SHOULDN’T answer. Yes.. this includes items like alcohol, smoking, guns, voting history, etc....


5 posted on 02/04/2014 10:05:23 AM PST by momtothree
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I get what the school is trying to do, but it crosses too far into looking like the school is collecting information about the parents using their own children against them. Let parents decide and teach their children what is right and wrong, not the schools.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 10:05:47 AM PST by Marko413
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Stalin would be proud.


7 posted on 02/04/2014 10:06:16 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: bgill

“.. was called a survey when mine were in school”.

What has happened now is most schools HAVE to require parental notification and permission before any “survey” is done. Sounds to me like this school got around the parental notification/permission by playing a “game”.


8 posted on 02/04/2014 10:07:15 AM PST by momtothree
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Let me guess...

If a parent has a gun.
If a parent gees to counseling.
If a parent goes to church.
If a parent is Republican.
If you live with your father.

9 posted on 02/04/2014 10:10:22 AM PST by polymuser
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Children are easily the best source of information on their families as they mostly want to please their teachers.

I can see the same thing happening to the teachers as I do the police now. Remember ‘Officer Friendly’ and how the police were looked upon as being ‘safe’. Well keep this sh@t up and the education establishment will be in the same boat.

Don’t talk, don’t snitch... Police,(Teachers), are NOT your Friends is what will happen. They will turn the rest of the populace against them.

Also as a side note... Police and public schoolteachers are both paid out of taxes that are quickly becoming extortion to the rest of the populace that ‘support’ them.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 10:10:38 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: afraidfortherepublic; null and void

Ping................


11 posted on 02/04/2014 10:11:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

One parent said her daughter was threatened with suspension if she didn’t participate. The school said they will notify the parents the next time the school decides to play the game again.

What the heck is wrong with these parents? They should go down to the school en masse and tell the school under no circumstances will their kids participate. Then they should tell their kids never to answer a question of a personal nature asked by any school employee.


12 posted on 02/04/2014 10:14:10 AM PST by goldi
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Yes,.. Coffee, tea, milk, orange juice, apple juice, grapefruit juice, soda pop, & Welches grape juice.


13 posted on 02/04/2014 10:15:21 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat
The data base will show: yes, your parents drink. A lot.

The same data will be used to allow the sober and caring State to remove you from your parents' bad influence.

14 posted on 02/04/2014 10:19:00 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
It’s unclear who exactly was leading the game.

BS, it's stupid union rules that prevent the disclosure of the names of dumb ass teachers or counselors who should be allowed near children to begin with.

15 posted on 02/04/2014 10:22:16 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Looks like the “game” is wide spread: http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22cross+the+line%22+game&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=%22cross+the+line%22+game&sc=8-15&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=9cbd0bbf42914cdea214bb89e4a4b6aa


16 posted on 02/04/2014 10:23:32 AM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Folks here without kids have no idea how bad it is

Private schools often no better about this


17 posted on 02/04/2014 10:24:52 AM PST by wardaddy (wifey instructed me today to grow chapter president beard back again....i wonder why?)
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To: goldi

Yes, this should result in angry crowds carrying pitch-forks and torches surrounding the next school-board meeting. Unfortunately in today’s America there are probably only a few parents who even care enough to complain. The rest are probably of the mindset of “Who cares, I’m not doing anything wrong anyway.”

Is is any surprise that the teacher’s union and the Democrat party are so closely aligned here? What this is is children being trained to accept the State’s intrusion into and dominance over their family lives while being conditioned to see themselves as part of the great Socialist collective.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 10:25:22 AM PST by Junk Silver
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Fascists. Training kids to turn their parents in.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 10:30:32 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Junk Silver

OK Little Suzzie, how many guns are in your house?

Wow, How many of these are loaded?

Wow, Where are they located?

Really, can you easily reach them if you need to?

Ok thanks. Wait here while I call the authorities.


20 posted on 02/04/2014 10:30:34 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

It’s almost chid abuse to send your kid to public school. They’re doing everything they can to take your lovable child and turn him into a statist minion with no morals or values.


21 posted on 02/04/2014 10:31:40 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: Junk Silver

Well, maybe the parents should go to a board meeting en-mass and demand all board members stand up play it, right there, right then. And not leave until it is played.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 10:32:14 AM PST by polymuser
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To: momtothree

Frankly my boys will light up a stupid teacher quick and challenge her

Or an activist principal

Teachers experience this and learn which parents will buck libtard teachers or just stupid apolitical 25 year old bobbleheads regurgutating crap the board pushed

Even in conservative areas libs swarm to boards

You fight back....they wither

Its like the screechy Jewish momma thing

It works.... they don’t want to deal with you

We did have one libtard teacher who was actually very fair and respected our sons awareness

Its the daft young girl teachers who are more harmful

They just spew what told oblivivious....drones

And when challenged you are amazed how uninformed they are......


23 posted on 02/04/2014 10:36:15 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://mms.marinette.k12.wi.us/


24 posted on 02/04/2014 10:37:07 AM PST by polymuser
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To: wardaddy
its the daft young girl teachers who are more harmful

2nd generation of progressive education. It's pretty "effective"

25 posted on 02/04/2014 10:37:57 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

2nd???

When referring to “generations” in Public School terms, that’s about 20 years, the way I count.

This was going on in the late 60’s.

Prayer took an exit in 63.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 10:44:20 AM PST by G Larry
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To: G Larry

I should have phrased it more accurately.

I was thinking the teacher’s profs that she learned from were 2nd generation progressive ed.


27 posted on 02/04/2014 10:49:54 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: wardaddy

They are also vindictive and immature, so it can create a great deal of trouble for your kid to make an enemy of them.

The average parent adopts “the don’t make waves” paradigm.


28 posted on 02/04/2014 10:50:30 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Questions from ‘Cross the Line’
MARINETTE - Editor’s note: Last Friday the EagleHerald requested the list of questions and statements given to Marinette Middle School students during the “Cross the Line” activity. School principal Shawn Limberg provided the lists on Monday.
Grade 5:
- Cross the line if you:
- Participated in a Cross the Line activity before
- Flown on an airplane
- Enjoy sports
- Enjoy school
- Find school to be pretty easy
- Find school to be very difficult
- Ever received an F on a report card
- Ever had straight A’s
- Ever earned a grade that was lower than what you know you are capable of
- Wish you tried harder in school
- Believe you are respectful
- Wish you could be almost anywhere but school
- Like to build things
- Consider yourself good at art
- Believe your teachers see you as respectful
- Have ever been hurt by someone you consider to be a good friend
- Are often lonely
- Feel you have at least one close adult in your life that you can trust
- Wish you had more friends
- Feel you do not have at least one close friend
- Ever felt embarrassed about how much money your family has
- Ever been called things that have made you feel anger, hurt, sad
- Ever made mean comments to someone else
- Ever witnessed name calling, but have stood by and did not intervene
- Wish people are here were kinder/nicer to one another
- Plan to go to college
- Would like to go to college but are not sure it’s possible
- Are nervous you will not graduate from high school
- Feel very different than everyone else
- Are an only child
- Have more than 4 kids in your house
- Parents are divorced, separated, or never married
- Parents live in 2 different houses
- Have had someone close to you pass away
- Feel like your teachers are proud of you
- Feel like your parents are proud of you
- Ever been afraid at school
- Ever been afraid at home
- Felt peer pressure to do something you did not want to do
- Are adopted
- Have a brother or sister that was adopted
- Feel loved
- Get angry when you hear classmates say mean cruel names
- Ever had such negative thoughts that you thought about hurting yourself
- Experienced the effects of alcoholism or drug addiction in your family
- Have had a family member go to jail
- Crossed the line at any time today
- Didn’t cross the line at some point today - even though you could have
- Would like to have had a hug at any point today.
Grades 6, 7, 8
Cross the line if you:
- Participated in a Cross the Line Activity before
- Flown on an airplane
- Enjoy sports
- Enjoy school
- Find school to be pretty easy
- Find school to be very difficult
- Ever received an F on a report card
- Ever had straight A’s
- Ever earned a grade that was lower than what you know you were capable of
- Believe you are respectful
- Believe your teachers see you as respectful
- Ever been hurt by someone you consider to be a good friend
- See yourself differently than others see you
- Think people have the wrong impression of you
- Are often lonely
- Feel you have at least one close adult in your life that you can trust
- Wish you had more friends
- Feel you do not have at least one close friend
- Ever looked in the mirror and didn’t like what you saw
- Ever thought losing just 5 lbs would make you feel better
- Ever felt embarrassed about how much money your family has
- Ever been hurt because someone said something mean to you
- Ever said something mean to someone else
- Ever saw someone getting picked on, but stood by & did nothing
- Wish people around here were kinder/nicer to one another
- Plan to go to college
- Would like to go to college but are not sure it’s possible
- Are nervous you will not graduate from high school
- Take care/help raise someone in your family or take care of an elderly member of your family
- Feel very different than everyone else
- Are an only child
- Have more than 4 kids living in our house
- Are adopted
- Have a brother or sister that was adopted
- Have parents who are divorced, separated, or never married
- Live in 2 different houses
- Have had a parent pass away
- Feel like your teachers are proud of you
- Feel like your parents are proud of you
- Know you could try harder in school
- Ever been afraid at school
- Ever been afraid at home
- Felt peer pressure to drink, smoke, or take drugs
- Get angry when you hear classmates use the word gay or retard or other cruel names
- Have been hurt by someone on social media (Twitter/Facebook)
- Hurt someone by posting something mean on social media
- Ever had such negative thoughts that you contemplated suicide
- Ever thought about hurting yourself in other ways like cutting, burning, rubbing
- Experienced the effects of alcoholism in your family
- Experienced the effects of drug addiction in your family
- Have had a family member go to jail
- Had had more than one family member go to jail
- Crossed the line at any time today
- Didn’t cross the line at some point today - even though you could have
- Would like to have a hug at any point today


29 posted on 02/04/2014 10:50:38 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: afraidfortherepublic

30 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:44 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

31 posted on 02/04/2014 10:53:45 AM PST by DannyTN (A>)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I looked up the game and found that it was intended as anti-bullying. It is still pretty stupid, but the i didn’t find any questions like the ones that were used in the Wisconsin school. The questions that I read had to do with the kids that had been bullied. They asked if the students had contemplated suicide and if so, to cross the line. They said that the object of the game was acquaint the students with the issues that bring on the bullying, that once the students understood the stories behind the bullying it would be more difficult to bully them.

It didn’t make any sense. It looks as though the Wisconsin tried to expose the bullies, not to the understand the victims. My guess is that these teachers were going to try to prove that bullies came from families who drank alcohol and owned fire arms.


32 posted on 02/04/2014 10:54:30 AM PST by Eva
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Little Johnny: “My father curses, throws things and gets really mad when the President comes on TV”.


33 posted on 02/04/2014 10:58:14 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: knittnmom

Did you notice the questions in there about “your national service?” Just what the hell is that about?


34 posted on 02/04/2014 10:59:11 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://www.sa.sc.edu/fsl/files/2010/12/CrossTheLineActivity.pdf


35 posted on 02/04/2014 10:59:19 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: null and void
Well,.....they'll have to do something we know they can't do; Get into Heaven, because that's where my parents are now.
36 posted on 02/04/2014 11:03:37 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Welcome to the USSA, comrades!


37 posted on 02/04/2014 11:06:04 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Valpal1

In Oregon yes.

In the rural South no.

They as I said populate boards and staff....not so much actual teachers but principals and counselors

But in my county we are 70-75% voters against democrats

And the state ....TN....we are about 65%....in a state 20% black.....Oregon is only 2% black.....crazy how so many whites are nuts there

Oregon...I state I know fairly well lately

Is very lib.....I never knew so many freaky folks and white libs existed

Beautiful place and even Portland is gorgeous city but man..

Its like just weird

Eastern rural Oregon...Gods country and decent folks as a rule

And other pockets here and there

Its a travesty how the left ruins beauty


38 posted on 02/04/2014 11:13:50 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Even a long time ago, when I was a kid, my parents were *very* clear that “no stranger wants to know *anything* about you for *your* benefit.”

Strangers being those outside of the family. And the same rule applies to strangers asking about the family. It *especially* includes reporters and those who you can see are recording you.

“Reporters are willing to ruin your life, and the lives of everyone in our family. That’s what they do.”

This is serious enough to be lumped into the training against “stranger danger”. Such people are psychological child molesters.

This was not an uncommon approach even among my peers at the time. In 5th grade, the teacher passed out a “survey” by a person or persons unknown, that asked all sorts of intrusive questions. As 5th graders, for heavens’ sake, we could tell that the “survey” was intended to generate some pretty horrible conclusions. And it was obvious that this was being done to change public policies. The law.

As a class, we told the teacher as much, and we refused to take the survey. And to his credit, he agreed that it was the work of scoundrels, so refused to order it.

I imagine he took a big hit for that. Scoundrels don’t like to be thwarted. We eventually concluded that it really didn’t matter *what* we wrote, they would have twisted it all around anyway. Vile people.


39 posted on 02/04/2014 11:15:11 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Do the good little Mao soldiers also get the ‘little red book’, too?


40 posted on 02/04/2014 11:17:28 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: SandRat

Not to worry, your own kids can easily say something The State will use against you.


41 posted on 02/04/2014 11:18:10 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: null and void
Yeah....I own guns, I'm a Tea Party Voter, I'm a Christian, I'm Pro-Miltary, & Global Warming is a CON
42 posted on 02/04/2014 11:40:19 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

so what happened when the student who came forward on yes my parent drinks, does dope, etc was the child of the teachers giving the test ???


43 posted on 02/04/2014 11:49:05 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: momtothree

http://www.lifeskillstraining.com/overview.php?t=overview

On the contrary, most parents unknowingly authorized the activity because they were too damn lazy to do a little research about the drug prevention education program chosen by the school.

My school district uses the above program. The overview that the school sends home sounds oh-so-benign. When you look at the actual lessons, you realize what it is. 300 students - mine was the only child opted out. Lazy parents.


44 posted on 02/04/2014 12:44:18 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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