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DOD staff on military flight delayed for hours by US Customs
Stars & Stripes ^ | February 3, 2014 | Nok-Noi Ricker

Posted on 02/04/2014 10:31:21 AM PST by Timber Rattler

What was expected to be a routine stopover at Bangor International Airport for a plane filled with returning U.S. troops and defense contractors Sunday night instead became a frustrating ordeal for many of those aboard.

For the 102 U.S. troops returning from Afghanistan and Kuwait on Delta flight 8964, getting off the plane was fairly routine and featured a hero’s welcome from the Maine Troop Greeters in attendance.

It was a different story for the 112 Department of Defense contractors — those hired to fly drones, do intelligence analysis, fix computers and other jobs — some of whom were kept on the plane for more than seven hours as their baggage was methodically inspected and cleared through U.S. Customs.

(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Maine; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cbp; customs; dod; dodcontractors; uscustoms
Illegal aliens and Muslims though are waved on through with a smile...
1 posted on 02/04/2014 10:31:21 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

I think everyone returning from Afghanistan should be allowed one functional AK/trip.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 10:34:22 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler

They should have just spoke Spanish and say Viva Mexico...and would be waived right thru

If we can overly harass US citizens...we can seal our borders and deport all illegals


3 posted on 02/04/2014 10:36:50 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (A Theory is not a Fact....It is not called the "Fact of Evolution")
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To: Timber Rattler

DOD contractors are supposed to be issued Red Passports that allow them easier egress.


4 posted on 02/04/2014 10:37:00 AM PST by AU72
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To: Timber Rattler

Sounds like Asian torture. Death by a thousand cuts, or maybe Chinese water torture. Where is John Wayne?


5 posted on 02/04/2014 10:40:28 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: AU72

if possible, you really want a black passport. they are sweet to have.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 10:41:38 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Giving idiots uniforms and badges guarantees disaster!!


7 posted on 02/04/2014 10:42:36 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Roger that.

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8 posted on 02/04/2014 10:44:49 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Paladin2

AK-47`S WERE BROUGHT regularly right thru San Francisco airport in 1965-1968 by returning G.I.`s,- not a wink from nobody COZ IT WAS NORMAL THEN,

-I did military transport for home-bound G.I.`s.

Now the anti-American ABBYNORMALS and perverts control our govt.

Let`s take it BACK!


9 posted on 02/04/2014 10:51:14 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Timber Rattler
BANGOR, Maine

Dang ... best guess is Maine seceded again.

10 posted on 02/04/2014 10:55:04 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: bunkerhill7
"AK-47`S WERE BROUGHT regularly right thru San Francisco airport in 1965-1968"

Those were the days (just like after WWII)...

11 posted on 02/04/2014 10:55:09 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Timber Rattler
the delay had more to do with the verbal confrontation between two contractors and a CBP officer, who responded by “being obstinate and slowing things down.”


12 posted on 02/04/2014 10:55:40 AM PST by DManA
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To: bunkerhill7
"AK-47`S WERE BROUGHT regularly right thru San Francisco airport in 1965-1968 by returning G.I.`s,- not a wink from nobody COZ IT WAS NORMAL THEN,"

What planet were you on in 1965-1968?

13 posted on 02/04/2014 11:02:38 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I. Don’t. Care.

You’re not in the military. You’re a government employee. You shouldn’t get through customs any quicker than I do.

I don’t want a system where you have to know someone or be a big shot to receive decent treatment. If everyone — big, powerful people — has to experience the misery involved with getting on an airplane, inflicted on us by our own government, then maybe something will be done about it.

We’re already behind the eight ball by not screaming out heads off that congressmen, senators and their staffers quietly enacted “special” security lines for themselves and their hangers-on.

Only members of the military should not have to deal with this nonsense.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 11:09:27 AM PST by Blue Ink
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To: Timber Rattler
It was a different story for the 112 Department of Defense contractors — those hired to fly drones, do intelligence analysis, fix computers and other jobs...

The ones we need to ID, track and be prepared to neutralize when the SHTF.

15 posted on 02/04/2014 11:23:14 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: DJ Taylor

I was in SF transporting GI`s from SFO to Travis AFB under Federal contract with high security clearances..

What planet was DJ one on in 1965-68? Musta been Venus coz it appears DJ one weren`t even born then.


16 posted on 02/04/2014 11:48:23 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: bunkerhill7

Yes, I was already born then.

I made several returns from Vietnam between 1965-1972 and twice I brought back souvenir weapons. These weapons had to be inspected by Military Intelligence to insure they had no intelligence value. Then they were registered as a War Trophy and an export license was granted.

As an AK-47 is a fully automatic weapon, they were never allowed to be brought home as a War Trophy. If you saw soldiers carrying souvenir weapons through San Francisco Airport, they were probably SKS carbines, or Type 53 carbines, but I can guarantee you that you didn’t see a soldier leaving Travis AFB with a fully automatic AK-47 in 1965-1968.


17 posted on 02/04/2014 12:13:58 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: AU72

I don’t think you need a passport for egress. For ingress, it seems a passport is sometimes not enough.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 12:30:24 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: DJ Taylor

nope; this was SFO disembark with request east coast ferry to Travis embarkation;

They even had grenades with them plus a army nurse on each lap with a bottle of booze. These GI`s always had AK47s back with ` them because some were N.A,s, my cousins, and they stil got`em on the reservation to this day. It appears you were not in SFO to see what was really happening since these local SF area GI`s got out of the SFO airport into taxis with their weapons and nurses, n took the taxis HOME.
SFO is not a military airport and there were no MP`s nor AIP`s there then. There was ZERO security at SFO. Only uniformed people there besides GI`s were the hari krishnas.
There were anti-war demonstrators there in SFO but when they saw the GI`s carrying weapons they shut up real fast n didn`t bother them at all.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 12:55:34 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: DJ Taylor

AK47`S as war trophies WERE only banned starting in 1968 Federal Weapons act but nobody at the SFO airport paid any attention to it...been there done that


20 posted on 02/04/2014 1:00:38 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Blue Ink

Actually they aren’t even government employees, they are contractors. I’m sure they will be paid well for their time. Sounds as if there was a tip off that contractors have been carrying contraband from A-stan and Customs is doing their job. Not as if it hasn’t happened before...


21 posted on 02/04/2014 1:08:35 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: bunkerhill7

SFO is not a military airport and there were no MP`s nor AIP`s there then. There was ZERO security at SFO. Only uniformed people there besides GI`s were the hari krishnas.


I had to laugh at that. Oh how I hated the Hari Krishna’s at the airport.

The best time I had though was at Sea-Tac and the Scientologists and the Hari’s started in on each other. It was a real hoot... almost better than some of the free entertainment on the 8:20PM subway to the Staten Island Ferry docks.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 1:17:26 PM PST by The Working Man
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To: no-to-illegals

Dang ... best guess is Maine seceded again.


I don’t think there is an airport in the US that greets more GI’s than Bangor.

For years the Bangor Troop greeters have welcomed home tens of thousands of troops. Every flight. Day or night.

A couple years ago I was in the Bangor area on business. I checked with flight ops. There was an inbound troop flight due in at 3 AM. I drove over from my hotel in a mild snow storm. there were at least 30 people there to greet that plane. I’m 62, and I think I was the youngest there.


23 posted on 02/04/2014 3:22:55 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: maine yankee
There was an inbound troop flight due in at 3 AM. I drove over from my hotel in a mild snow storm. There were at least 30 people there to greet that plane. I’m 62, and I think I was the youngest there.

My compliments to you and those there.

24 posted on 02/04/2014 3:57:43 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

“The Way We Get By” is a pretty good documentary on the troop greeters at Bangor.


25 posted on 02/04/2014 5:37:00 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: redlegplanner

Have they overthrown Customs for their error? Will take a look at the documentary. Oh and Thank You.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 5:39:53 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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27 posted on 02/04/2014 5:43:57 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

I’m not stupid enough to be in Washington.


28 posted on 02/04/2014 5:50:21 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: redlegplanner

Have run a search and think I have found the documentary. Know it will be excellent viewing. Once more, my Thanks!


29 posted on 02/04/2014 5:59:49 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: redlegplanner; everyone

Also found a bit of background on the making of the documentary ... for those unaware.


30 posted on 02/04/2014 6:02:34 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Active Duty ping.


31 posted on 02/04/2014 6:04:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Timber Rattler; Jet Jaguar
99 times out of 100, Customs will treat military and those on military of military charter flights with kid glove treatment. That was my experience, and I dealt with US Customs A LOT.

As pilot in command, I would greet them at the door. Open anything they asked to be opened. We complied with every request. If you even made the effort to take care of them, they took care of you. Anytime we got hassled it was become someone was a jerk and asked for it.

Most times, the agents would shake my hand, say welcome home, and tell us "you're good."

Most of these folks are not your typical TSA flunkie. They are far above that.

But, everyone knew you didn't mess with them or their jobs. They have the authority to delay, detain, and fine you. So does every customs, no matter what the country. We had a stupid co-pilot who tried to sneak food through Australian Customs. He learned. Turkish Customs was the worst, but the US Customs treatment in Hawaii was not far behind.

32 posted on 02/05/2014 8:12:09 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: redlegplanner; All

If you’ve seen the documentary

Mr night died on Christmas Day.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 7:14:38 PM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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