Skip to comments.Scottish parliament passes gay ‘marriage’ 105-18
Posted on 02/04/2014 8:57:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Tonight Scotland became the 11th jurisdiction in the European Union and the 17th in the world to create gay marriage in a vote at Holyroodhouse of 105-18. This leaves only Northern Ireland as the last jurisdiction in the United Kingdom to retain the traditional legal definition of marriage between one man and one woman.
Health Secretary Alex Neil said he expected the first gay marriages could take place this autumn. Were doing a remarkable thing today, we are saying on behalf of Scotland to the world, loud and clear that we believe in recognizing love between same sex couples as we do between opposite sex couples, he said.
Neil reiterated that clergy celebrants of marriage ceremonies who could not in conscience participate would be protected by the safeguards, but the legislation does not mention the rights of non-clerical citizens. The Church of Scotland, a Presbyterian denomination that represents the majority of Scotlands Christian believers, said in September that it might simply give up officiating at marriages should the legislation pass.
At the time of the vote, 54,000 people had signed a petition asking the government to drop the idea. A spokesman for the marriage campaign group Scotland for Marriage said the petition was submitted to the government with the addresses of signatories removed out of fears of discrimination. Redacting these details was an absolute necessity to protect the rights and freedoms of ordinary men and women with traditional views on marriage which are under threat, the Christian Institute reports.
We really are facing the prospect of people being discriminated against in their own homes, at work and at schools if this Bill progresses in its present form, the Scotland for Marriage spokesman added.
Scotland for Marriage had asked for amendments to the bill to protect not only clergy from having to participate, but also ordinary citizens who might be caught in a conflict between the law and their conscience, including civil marriage registrars and marriage counselors. The group had also called for a public referendum on the issue.
Campaigners threatened MSPs who supported the bill, saying they would lose their seats in the next election cycle. This prediction has come early for one Tory MSP, who voted for the bill tonight and has already been de-selected by his local party riding association in South Suffolk. Tim Yeo, a former Conservative minister and an MP for 30 years, lost a secret vote that polled 600 Tory members.
What with kilts and all, what do you expect.
What about Sheep?
it must be the haggis...
63% of the sheep think this will bode well for them.
37% know what comes next, and aren’t celebrating...
The 37% are convinced, and are saying, “It’s gonna get baaaad.”
“Och, I dinna understand it either, but if they say haggis wants to git married I dinna see why not...what? ‘Faggots’? What sort of a dish is that?”
This seems like a good time to sing “Donald, Where’s Your Trewsers?”
I imagine John Knox is spinning in his grave.
It is neither “gay” nor is it “marriage”. What fools these mortals be.
Do the people of Scotland support this in the same ratio?
Seems like the queers are wining,
Most Scotsmen are gay anyway.
Gay marriage...... Its the latest craze! Sweeping all the wealthy degenerate nations in the West. I never hear anything about gay marriage from Korea or Japan. Nor China.
Yet another occasion where tyranny reigns. They were too scared to put it to referendum.
I see you like baaaad jokes, so don’t miss post #16.
This story is warming me up to Belfast, where men are men!
“I never hear anything about gay marriage from Korea or Japan. Nor China.”
It isn’t recognized in any of the countries that are sending their populations to fill the countries that do recognize it.
Nor the Catholic Philippines, Muslim Indonesia, etc., etc..
I’m amazed 4% of the population is pushing the rest of us around - and winning.
Crap! I thought I hit the kilt thing first. You beat me. Wait, forget that.
As far as legal immigration———
I read that in the last decade we had more Asians coming in than Hispanics. You can now find Tibetan and Nepalese restaurants in America.
John Barleycorn must die!
Considering that my post was number three, what are you saying?
Well a ripe post gets picked fast. You win!
The divorce, when it comes, will make the 1860s look like a church ice cream social.
Considering that like minds think alike ... we both win.
“As far as legal immigration I read that in the last decade we had more Asians coming in than Hispanics. You can now find Tibetan and Nepalese restaurants in America.”
In my area we’ve seen more Asians from the sub-continent, but their numbers are miniscule compared to the Hispanics. Looking at just the Mexican numbers alone in this country, I don’t see how Asians would even come close in numbers. In any case, my reference to countries that don’t recognize “gay marriage” was more geared towards Asia/Africa than Hispanics; Latin American countries will recognize it and it will be celebrated by their urban Creole populations, but their more numerous native populations will rightly regard it as the abomination it is (and in the end those demographic differences matter).
2%. If that.
Well blow the “bagpipe”
it seems the men left scotland a long time ago
Now that was funny...
You’ve been holding that one for decades waiting for the right moment haven’t you.
Why do MSPs wear kilts?
Because the voters can hear zippers.
Not very Puritan A new Scotland it seems.
Scotland and New England, which used to be very Christian...
Yes indeed. I personally support letting guys shack up together in the privacy of their homes. And fir them to be protected as equal citizens. But fir the state to sanction such pairing as “marriages “ is wrong from both a factual and public policy basis, methinks. (And of course religiously too ). Bad message about truth, as if there were any of that left in our government today anyway . Bad message to children.
Marriage is not about love.
I’m no neanderthal, and understand that cultures are subject to change, but I cant get over how sweeping the ‘acceptance’ of gay marriage has become, and not just in America, Great Britain or the Netherlands. Maybe what looks like acceptance is actually a forced corporate tolerance, because anything other than an expression of tolerance and inclusivity would subject an employer or business owner to lawsuits. Maybe that’s what really going on. I still think too much is being demanded too soon, and will lead to personal rebellion and noncompliance. I’m most troubled that individual religious rules are being disregarded and stomped all over by the New Intolerant. The desire to secede still burns within many of us for different reasons.
He's certainly right about that.
The Death Of The West heading inexorably into hell .
They were convinced following testimony from Ireland’s first married gay couple: Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald.