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Scottish parliament passes gay ‘marriage’ 105-18
Life Site News ^ | February 4, 2014 | Hilary White

Posted on 02/04/2014 8:57:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Tonight Scotland became the 11th jurisdiction in the European Union and the 17th in the world to create gay “marriage” in a vote at Holyroodhouse of 105-18. This leaves only Northern Ireland as the last jurisdiction in the United Kingdom to retain the traditional legal definition of marriage between one man and one woman.

Health Secretary Alex Neil said he expected the first “gay marriages” could take place this autumn. “We’re doing a remarkable thing today, we are saying on behalf of Scotland to the world, loud and clear that we believe in recognizing love between same sex couples as we do between opposite sex couples,” he said.

Neil reiterated that clergy celebrants of marriage ceremonies who could not in conscience participate would be protected by the “safeguards,” but the legislation does not mention the rights of non-clerical citizens. The Church of Scotland, a Presbyterian denomination that represents the majority of Scotland’s Christian believers, said in September that it might simply give up officiating at marriages should the legislation pass.

At the time of the vote, 54,000 people had signed a petition asking the government to drop the idea. A spokesman for the marriage campaign group Scotland for Marriage said the petition was submitted to the government with the addresses of signatories removed out of fears of discrimination. Redacting these details was “an absolute necessity to protect the rights and freedoms of ordinary men and women with traditional views on marriage which are under threat,” the Christian Institute reports.

“We really are facing the prospect of people being discriminated against in their own homes, at work and at schools if this Bill progresses in its present form,” the Scotland for Marriage spokesman added.

Scotland for Marriage had asked for amendments to the bill to protect not only clergy from having to participate, but also ordinary citizens who might be caught in a conflict between the law and their conscience, including civil marriage registrars and marriage counselors. The group had also called for a public referendum on the issue.

Campaigners threatened MSPs who supported the bill, saying they would lose their seats in the next election cycle. This prediction has come early for one Tory MSP, who voted for the bill tonight and has already been “de-selected” by his local party riding association in South Suffolk. Tim Yeo, a former Conservative minister and an MP for 30 years, lost a secret vote that polled 600 Tory members.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; scotland; scotlandyet
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1 posted on 02/04/2014 8:57:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sick.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 8:57:27 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What with kilts and all, what do you expect.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 8:58:26 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What about Sheep?


4 posted on 02/04/2014 8:58:56 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it must be the haggis...


5 posted on 02/04/2014 9:00:03 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: bigbob

63% of the sheep think this will bode well for them.

37% know what comes next, and aren’t celebrating...


6 posted on 02/04/2014 9:00:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: DoughtyOne

aye!


7 posted on 02/04/2014 9:04:08 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: bigbob

The 37% are convinced, and are saying, “It’s gonna get baaaad.”


8 posted on 02/04/2014 9:05:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Och, I dinna understand it either, but if they say haggis wants to git married I dinna see why not...what? ‘Faggots’? What sort of a dish is that?”


9 posted on 02/04/2014 9:05:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv

This seems like a good time to sing “Donald, Where’s Your Trewsers?”


10 posted on 02/04/2014 9:05:33 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine John Knox is spinning in his grave.


11 posted on 02/04/2014 9:06:14 PM PST by Robwin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is neither “gay” nor is it “marriage”. What fools these mortals be.


12 posted on 02/04/2014 9:06:37 PM PST by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: the scotsman

>> 105-18

Do the people of Scotland support this in the same ratio?


13 posted on 02/04/2014 9:07:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems like the queers are wining,


14 posted on 02/04/2014 9:08:59 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most Scotsmen are gay anyway.


15 posted on 02/04/2014 9:11:55 PM PST by MNnice
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To: doc1019
Mr.McGregor was sitting at a bar in Scotland. He taps the young man sitting next to him on the shoulder and says (in a heavy Scottish accent), “You see that fence out there? Well I built it board by board, nail by nail with my own two hands! But do they call me McGregor the fence builder? Nooooooo!”
And then he points to a dock extending out to the lake and he says, “Do you see that dock? Well I built that too. Board by board, nail by nail with my own two hands! But do they call me McGregor the fence builder? Noooooooo!!”
Then finally he says, “And this bar we're sitting at. I built it too. Board by board, nail by nail with my own two hands! But do they call me Mcgregor the bar builder?? Nooooo!!!”
“But you f-— one goat”...
16 posted on 02/04/2014 9:11:55 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Its a low day for my ancestry a low day indeed

Why have you turned from the sight of the Almighty to the darkness that plagues the world ?

17 posted on 02/04/2014 9:12:43 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (I'm not afraid to say what i mean nor should you be afraid of what you know to be true !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gay marriage...... Its the latest craze! Sweeping all the wealthy degenerate nations in the West. I never hear anything about gay marriage from Korea or Japan. Nor China.


18 posted on 02/04/2014 9:13:56 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet another occasion where tyranny reigns. They were too scared to put it to referendum.


19 posted on 02/04/2014 9:14:07 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: DoughtyOne

I see you like baaaad jokes, so don’t miss post #16.


20 posted on 02/04/2014 9:16:46 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This story is warming me up to Belfast, where men are men!


21 posted on 02/04/2014 9:17:24 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: dennisw

“I never hear anything about gay marriage from Korea or Japan. Nor China.”

It isn’t recognized in any of the countries that are sending their populations to fill the countries that do recognize it.


22 posted on 02/04/2014 9:20:05 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: dennisw

Nor the Catholic Philippines, Muslim Indonesia, etc., etc..


23 posted on 02/04/2014 9:21:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: doc1019
I'm first in with a kilt comment. Just sayin'. I'll figure something else out later.
24 posted on 02/04/2014 9:25:31 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m amazed 4% of the population is pushing the rest of us around - and winning.


25 posted on 02/04/2014 9:25:56 PM PST by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: doc1019

Crap! I thought I hit the kilt thing first. You beat me. Wait, forget that.


26 posted on 02/04/2014 9:26:45 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: kearnyirish2

As far as legal immigration———

I read that in the last decade we had more Asians coming in than Hispanics. You can now find Tibetan and Nepalese restaurants in America.


27 posted on 02/04/2014 9:27:51 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Traditional
28 posted on 02/04/2014 9:27:51 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bramps

John Barleycorn must die!


29 posted on 02/04/2014 9:28:03 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: outofstyle

Considering that my post was number three, what are you saying?


30 posted on 02/04/2014 9:29:02 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Well a ripe post gets picked fast. You win!


31 posted on 02/04/2014 9:30:21 PM PST by outofstyle (Down All the Days)
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To: Veggie Todd

The divorce, when it comes, will make the 1860s look like a church ice cream social.


32 posted on 02/04/2014 9:30:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: outofstyle

Considering that like minds think alike ... we both win.


33 posted on 02/04/2014 9:33:00 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There once was a man name McFeanus...

[nevermind]

34 posted on 02/04/2014 9:33:55 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: dennisw

“As far as legal immigration——— I read that in the last decade we had more Asians coming in than Hispanics. You can now find Tibetan and Nepalese restaurants in America.”

In my area we’ve seen more Asians from the sub-continent, but their numbers are miniscule compared to the Hispanics. Looking at just the Mexican numbers alone in this country, I don’t see how Asians would even come close in numbers. In any case, my reference to countries that don’t recognize “gay marriage” was more geared towards Asia/Africa than Hispanics; Latin American countries will recognize it and it will be celebrated by their urban Creole populations, but their more numerous native populations will rightly regard it as the abomination it is (and in the end those demographic differences matter).


35 posted on 02/04/2014 9:39:04 PM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Veggie Todd

2%. If that.


36 posted on 02/04/2014 9:39:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well blow the “bagpipe”


37 posted on 02/04/2014 9:40:15 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

it seems the men left scotland a long time ago


38 posted on 02/04/2014 9:48:16 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

39 posted on 02/04/2014 10:18:05 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: bramps

Now that was funny...

Thanks.

You’ve been holding that one for decades waiting for the right moment haven’t you.


40 posted on 02/04/2014 10:21:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: Rodamala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McOljkFzasw


41 posted on 02/04/2014 10:30:00 PM PST by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why do MSPs wear kilts?

Because the voters can hear zippers.


42 posted on 02/04/2014 10:33:39 PM PST by RichInOC ("Rule One...NO POOFTERS!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not very Puritan A new Scotland it seems.


43 posted on 02/04/2014 10:50:57 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C?)
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To: faithhopecharity

Scotland and New England, which used to be very Christian...


44 posted on 02/04/2014 10:57:14 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: JSDude1

Yes indeed. I personally support letting guys shack up together in the privacy of their homes. And fir them to be protected as equal citizens. But fir the state to sanction such pairing as “marriages “ is wrong from both a factual and public policy basis, methinks. (And of course religiously too ). Bad message about truth, as if there were any of that left in our government today anyway . Bad message to children.


45 posted on 02/04/2014 11:04:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Marriage is not about love.


46 posted on 02/04/2014 11:26:12 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m no neanderthal, and understand that cultures are subject to change, but I cant get over how sweeping the ‘acceptance’ of gay marriage has become, and not just in America, Great Britain or the Netherlands. Maybe what looks like acceptance is actually a forced corporate tolerance, because anything other than an expression of tolerance and inclusivity would subject an employer or business owner to lawsuits. Maybe that’s what really going on. I still think too much is being demanded too soon, and will lead to personal rebellion and noncompliance. I’m most troubled that individual religious rules are being disregarded and stomped all over by the New Intolerant. The desire to secede still burns within many of us for different reasons.


47 posted on 02/04/2014 11:51:47 PM PST by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Health Secretary Alex Neil said...“We’re doing a remarkable thing today...

He's certainly right about that.

48 posted on 02/05/2014 12:22:21 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Death Of The West heading inexorably into hell .


49 posted on 02/05/2014 1:11:11 AM PST by sushiman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were convinced following testimony from Ireland’s first married gay couple: Gerald Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzgerald.


50 posted on 02/05/2014 1:52:39 AM PST by Rastus
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