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WH: When you think about it, 2.5 million fewer people working because of ObamaCare is good news
Hot Air ^ | February 4, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/04/2014 9:27:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

I’m done, guys. If we’ve reached the stage of welfare-state decadence where it’s a selling point for a new entitlement that it discourages able-bodied people from working, there’s no reason to keep going. We’ve lost, decisively.

As a great man once said, remember me as I am — filled with murderous rage.

In a statement and conference call featuring top administration officials, the White House tried to beat back an emerging narrative that the CBO report supported claims made by health care reform critics. The CBO report says the Affordable Care Act could lead to a reduction of 2 million full-time workers between 2017 and 2024. The CBO says the reduction would not come via fewer available full-time jobs (as critics of the law have alleged) but “almost entirely from a net decline in the amount of labor that workers choose to supply.”…

“To put that in context, I have no doubt that if we eliminated Social Security and eliminated Medicare, there would be many 95-year-olds that would choose to work more hours than they’re working today just so they could survive, feed themselves and have health insurance,” the official said.

The CBO’s projected reduction in full-time workers, then, “shouldn’t be a significant cause for surprise and it reflects the fact that workers have a new set of options and are making the best choices that they can choose to make for themselves given those options,” the official said.

In other words, it’s not that employers will be offering 2.5 million fewer jobs. It’s that ObamaCare, by subsidizing low earners and expanding Medicaid for the very poor, will incentivize 2.5 million people not to work. Or, if you prefer:

Steven Dennis ✔ @StevenTDennis

The message from this WH presser: ACA gives workers
more choices, including the option to work less.

1:25 PM - 4 Feb 2014

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Billions upon billions of dollars in economic productivity up in smoke as workers who’ve stuck with their jobs for the health insurance quit and take a subsidies check from Uncle Sam instead. To the White House, which otherwise bleats about “growth” at every opportunity, this is a feature of the law, not a bug. WaPo’s fact-checker even rushed out a piece this afternoon in defense of their position. The law’s not destroying 2.5 million jobs, says Glenn Kessler, it’s merely inviting 2.5 million employees to quit. How much does it matter to growth, though, if the labor force shrinks on the demand side versus the supply side? Will all, or most, of the vacated positions be filled by younger workers or will they evaporate as businesses downsize (or close down)? If giving people more “choice” in whether to be employed or not is now our cardinal social good, we might as well go for a guaranteed minimum income and clear out all the wage slaves. Let’s see how small we can get the labor force before the wheels come off the economy.

Don’t act surprised, either. Nancy told you this was coming. Look on the bright side: If fewer people working is a sign of economic success, the Obama presidency will be remembered as a golden age.

(VIDEO-AT-LINK)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; pelosi; unemployment

1 posted on 02/04/2014 9:27:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LIBs/DIMs are truly insane.


2 posted on 02/04/2014 9:31:56 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, yuck it up morons. That 2.5 million you are blowing off might constitute 2.5 or at half that number, 1.2 million disgruntled citizens marching on DC to drag the bastards out and put them out of their jobs. Go ahead and keep announcing to the country that 2.5 million of them don’t matter.


3 posted on 02/04/2014 9:36:38 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, is this not the goal of all Communist? Make everyone a ward of the state so that they pledge allegiance to dear leader?


4 posted on 02/04/2014 9:37:13 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The effects of a killer lib-nado vortex.


5 posted on 02/04/2014 9:37:21 PM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, if you still have a job, please work some extra hours. There’s a lot of people on the government dole relying on you.


6 posted on 02/04/2014 9:41:22 PM PST by MNDude
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The world has turned upside down!


7 posted on 02/04/2014 9:47:11 PM PST by plainshame
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone should just quit working and let the rats take care of them!They will with a shovel and a coffin.


8 posted on 02/04/2014 9:49:45 PM PST by plainshame
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nancy Pelosi said if someone wants to quit working and become a full time guitar player, they can get insurance through obamacare. She actually said it.


9 posted on 02/04/2014 9:50:34 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: AlexW

Yep. Cloward Piven.....and so it begins.


10 posted on 02/04/2014 10:14:52 PM PST by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hey, MSM! Your next job is to convince America that long term unemployment is good for the unemployed. UNemployment is now FUNemployment!

We know you can do it! America will believe whatever you tell it to believe.

11 posted on 02/04/2014 10:26:14 PM PST by TChad
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The implosion will be televised!


12 posted on 02/04/2014 10:34:44 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: VerySadAmerican
Yeah, I remember Pelosi saying that, and much more about the 400k new jobs that would be created instantly and such ....crap.....
13 posted on 02/04/2014 11:11:58 PM PST by redshawk (0pansy is a Liar and Hates.........he just hates!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When you think about it that is 2.5 million people that we might be able to convert to conservative gun owning TEA Party radicals. So maybe it is good news.


14 posted on 02/04/2014 11:39:37 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The spin that should live in infamy was Jay Carney today calling freedom a “buzzword”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZURBBtTO_E


15 posted on 02/04/2014 11:45:06 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: redshawk
400K jobs gained from 0bamaCare isn't going to make up much for the 500 million jobs lost each month ...

Nancy Pelosi: 500 Million Jobs Lost Unless Obama’s Stimulus Package Passes

...oh, wait, 0bama did get the Stimulus package. Whew!

16 posted on 02/04/2014 11:56:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ArmstedFragg
The spin that should live in infamy was Jay Carney today calling freedom a “buzzword”.

I feel a song coming on.

This was the first act. Did you know that?

17 posted on 02/05/2014 12:22:34 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: ogen hal

This makes no sense...getting subsidized health insurance, which maybe you didn’t even have in the first place, does not make up for not having a job. This is just going to bring on more welfare to cover these people who’ve been thrown out of work.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 1:04:51 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: ogen hal

“LIBs/DIMs are truly insane.”

Also insane:
* this law is still happening
* “smart” people are serious about it
* the GOP doesn’t rescind funding TODAY
* we all know it’s going to get worse
* all our most personal information will be allowed to be hacked immediately


19 posted on 02/05/2014 2:04:10 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: dr_lew

I was thinking more along the Kristofferson line, “freedom’s just a buzzy word for nothing left to lose...”

Saw him on tour a couple of years back.

Come to think of it, “nothing left to lose” appears to be the administration’s plan for us.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 2:08:38 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Carthego delenda est
Well on our way to the next Pelosi suggestion for us to improve the economy.... ‘Shelter In Place’.
21 posted on 02/05/2014 2:10:23 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Aria

They also seem to fail to grasp that most of those who were “trapped in their jobs for insurance reasons” will, instead, be trapped in their jobs earning the money to pay their spiffy new insurance premiums and co-pays.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 2:12:37 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My creditors and mortgage company would disagree. I am down to 31 hours a week. Happy to have a job, but “Come on man!<
23 posted on 02/05/2014 2:16:08 AM PST by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m one of the 2.5 ready to march.


24 posted on 02/05/2014 2:18:20 AM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: ogen hal

LIBs/DIMs are truly insane.

Oh I don’t believe that at all. I think they are very smart. I said to myself, “Finally some really negative news about Obamacare” while watching the news and then the White House comes out with “people are finally going to retire or work at a job that they enjoy rather than have to work just for health care”. I thought dang it those low info voters are going to eat that up. We need to combat the “feel good” BS that the White House puts out. They always come up with these outlandish statements that people believe. Republicans have NEVER been able to do that.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 3:59:55 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: ArmstedFragg

They also seem to fail to grasp that most of those who were “trapped in their jobs for insurance reasons” will, instead, be trapped in their jobs earning the money to pay their spiffy new insurance premiums and co-pays.

Nope. If you hate your job, then you quite and get subsidies and you are good to go according to them. Who on Earth is going to quite their job to “save” at most 12,000 a year in Health Care Savings. The Administration must think people are stupid….well I guess they are right.


26 posted on 02/05/2014 4:03:53 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ogen hal

27 posted on 02/05/2014 11:27:04 AM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ogen hal

28 posted on 02/05/2014 11:28:00 AM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: napscoordinator

What’s a 12 thousand buck a year savings on a zero income net out to? Maybe “new math” doesn’t cover that kind of stuff.


29 posted on 02/05/2014 3:05:18 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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