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What’s behind a fair minimum wage? | As It Turns Out ($15 'not necessarily socialism')
Kingston Community News ^ | 2/04/14 | MARYLIN OLDS

Posted on 02/05/2014 2:58:22 AM PST by Libloather

**SNIP**

The Bureau of Labor projects the majority of jobs developing to be low-wage service jobs. Is this the fault of the unemployed who are still out there looking for decent work, or is this the fault of big businesses who have greedily outsourced their production jobs for increased profit?

There was an article a couple of years ago about Henry Ford. He paid his assembly line workers a $5 per day back in 1914 (that’s $118 in today’s dollars, according to MeasuringWorth.com). He did this because he wanted to increase productivity and reduce turnover — and if his employees could buy his cars, all the better for him.

That isn’t necessarily socialism, folks. That’s just good business.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: minimum; seattle; socialism; wage
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To: Kozak

You forgot politicians.


21 posted on 02/05/2014 4:51:56 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Libloather

It’s kind of a moot point - it’s just about impossible to start a small business these days, anyway, so they can set the minimum to whatever their large campaign contributors’ government preferences can bear.


22 posted on 02/05/2014 5:02:01 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Libloather

Behind the minimum wage increase effort is Obamacare.

To pay the increased taxes, a general wage increase is needed. An increase in the minimum wage provides the inertia to increase all wages across the board.

Wage inflation is absolutely required for Obamacare to be sustainable.


23 posted on 02/05/2014 5:02:50 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ken5050

The assembly line was a big reason. If workers are assembling cars the old way, then it is not a huge problem if you have an absentee problem. You can just shift a few workers around and produce fewer cars that day. On the other hand you need a minimum attendence in every position to keep the line running. The high pay was combined with firing for absense and drunkenness to improve productivity. But that was Ford’s choice, not the government’s.


24 posted on 02/05/2014 5:08:22 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Libloather

Unaccountable totalitarians need to hide their plunder of the currency, the devaluation of the fiat paper, from the masses. Enter their accomplices/co-conspirators, the corrupt politicians, as champions of the downtrodden raising their minimum wage.

Root cause? Never addressed.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G022


25 posted on 02/05/2014 5:19:28 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Libloather

As the dollar becomes worth Less and Less...
increasing minimum wage keeps you the same OR LESS than before..

It’s a shell game by democrats knowing democracy is a lie..
Democracy is and always has been Mob Rule by mobsters..
A protection racket by Gov’t protecting you from (( THEM ))..


26 posted on 02/05/2014 5:20:20 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Libloather

Wow...Marilyn is simply clueless.

She is aghast that some states don’t even have a minimum wage... With the Feds dictating what the minimum is...why bother, but I guess that doesn’t even occur to her.

Weapons Grade Stupid.


27 posted on 02/05/2014 5:35:23 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Libloather

A minimum wage historical graph…

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth484/minwage.html

Now, legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways. Thus we have an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, benefits, subsidies, encouragements, progressive taxation, public schools, guaranteed jobs, guaranteed profits, MINIMUM WAGES, a right to relief, a right to the tools of labor, free credit, and so on, and so on. All these plans as a whole — with their common aim of legal plunder — constitute socialism.

(CAPS-mine)

Legal Plunder Has Many Names - Bastiat

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html#SECTION_G020


28 posted on 02/05/2014 5:38:14 AM PST by PGalt
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To: fieldmarshaldj

IIRC the people who worked the line in a Fords factories worked 12 hour days, six days.

her push is tha $5 per day, to $118 per day / 8 hours per day is $14.75 per hour....eerily similar to the $15.

In those days the was no EPA, OSHA, worker’s comp or anythign else....

She’s cherry picking the facts


29 posted on 02/05/2014 5:46:01 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: bert

Socialists have never figured out that people are not static playthings that can be manipulated at will. Everyone changes their habits to move to the path of least pain.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 5:48:13 AM PST by Pecos (The Chicago Way: Kill the Constitution, one step at a time.)
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To: Libloather

Look, if the government is going to mandate a nearly 100% increase for low skilled jobs I think it is only fair they mandate a similar bump for highly skilled workers. After all, they claim they are all about fairness. You don’t want to dis-incentivize (or whatever the BS buzzword is) skilled workers, do you? Well, fair is fair, I want a 100% increase too. I guess that means the government will have to set wage standards for everyone...hmm, wages will determine where the talent goes...starts to look like a centrally planned economy, doesn’t it? We all know how well those worked out in the 20th century...


31 posted on 02/05/2014 6:02:50 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Kozak

Don’t forget POTUS, SCOTUS, senators, congressman and others in gov’t.


32 posted on 02/05/2014 6:14:08 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Smokin' Joe

The same thing happened when the Alaska Pipeline was built.


33 posted on 02/05/2014 6:57:43 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: DeaconRed
Actually, if you follow inflation, with the value of your money being cut in half every 10 years, starting anywhere you want, 1700s, 1800s, or 1970, it should be a LOT more.

An unskilled worker should be getting around $70 an hour now.

A skilled worker should be getting around $100 to $150 an hour now.

The spouse should not have to work outside the household.

34 posted on 02/05/2014 7:28:34 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Yep. I had a cousin who went up there to work who made enough money to take a year off and play afterwards..


35 posted on 02/05/2014 7:49:15 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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