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Media Blacks Out New Snowden Interview The Government Doesn’t Want You to See
Benswan ^ | 01-31-14 | Jay Syrmopoulos

Posted on 02/05/2014 7:16:11 AM PST by GilGil

He [Snowden] states that his “breaking point” was “seeing Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, directly lie under oath to Congress” denying the existence of a domestic spying programs while under questioning in March of last year. Mr. Snowden goes on to state that, “The public had a right to know about these programs. The public had a right to know that which the government is doing in its name, and that which the government is doing against the public.”

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KEYWORDS: clapper; disclosure; dni; germany; snowden; snowdeninterview; spy
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The US government these days is caught in lie after lie after lie Benghazi, Obamacare, Fast and Furious, the NSA and the government then goes on TV with its fools denying what they lied about. How low we have sunk.
1 posted on 02/05/2014 7:16:12 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Sorry. Here is the correct link to the article.

http://benswann.com/media-blacks-out-new-snowden-interview-the-government-doesnt-want-you-to-see/


2 posted on 02/05/2014 7:17:37 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil
He [Snowden] states that his "breaking point"

Right, thanks for the info. Now go to jail.

3 posted on 02/05/2014 7:17:47 AM PST by palmer (don't feed the bears)
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To: GilGil
Here's the thing the Obama Administration dreads: Snowden will reveal that the domestic spying program was used since 2009 against the political opponents of the President--including phone records (landline and cellphone), Internet access, bank accounts and even IRS data. That would be a gigantic violation of innumerable Federal felony laws.
4 posted on 02/05/2014 7:19:31 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: GilGil

It’s a sorry state of affairs when someone like Snowden can be considered a hero.

I always liked the phrase, When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. The meaning is much deeper than it appears on the surface. Who is an outlaw?


5 posted on 02/05/2014 7:20:03 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: RayChuang88

Like Chief Justice John Roberts?


6 posted on 02/05/2014 7:20:44 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

don’t forget the I.R.S. targeting conservatives and conservative groups.


7 posted on 02/05/2014 7:21:39 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
It’s a sorry state of affairs when someone like Snowden can be considered a hero.

We started pushing anti-heroes in the movies and in popular culture, beginning in the 1960's. So it's no surprise people can hardly define the word anymore.


8 posted on 02/05/2014 7:23:18 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He has certainly shaken up the status quo at great risk to himself.

One of his coworkers said when he came to meeting he was by far the smartest guy in the room. True, I don’t know, but just one of those little snippets you pick up.


9 posted on 02/05/2014 7:26:27 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: GilGil

IMO, Roberts has hurt the American people far more than Snowdon.


10 posted on 02/05/2014 7:29:22 AM PST by dforest
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To: palmer

He’s my write in candidate for President should somebody like Chris Christie get nominated.

Either way, I don’t like living under ‘secret laws’ and ‘secret surveilance’.


11 posted on 02/05/2014 7:30:15 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: RayChuang88

And zero got his start bullying a judge to unseal his opponent’s divorce records, so we have precedence.

Sarah was clean - as we all knew - to have no fear of the NSA gauntlet for VP vetting.


12 posted on 02/05/2014 7:30:39 AM PST by txhurl
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To: dforest

Why did he vote the way he did? I remember Obama threatening the SC before the vote on Obamacare as if he knew what Roberts was going to do. Were they spying on him? Did they have some blackmail materials on him through NSA?


13 posted on 02/05/2014 7:31:23 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil


14 posted on 02/05/2014 7:34:26 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
We started pushing anti-heroes in the movies and in popular culture, beginning in the 1960's. So it's no surprise people can hardly define the word anymore.

Spider-man is the anti-hero archtype.

Classical Anti-Hero
From tvtropes:

Nowadays, an antihero is usually thought of as a badass, bitter, misanthropic, violent, sociopathic angry person (see Nineties Anti-Hero). However, this is actually a recent invention. For much of history, the term antihero referred to a character type that is in many ways the opposite of this.

In classical and earlier mythology, the hero tended to be a dashing, confident, stoic, intelligent, highly capable fighter and commander with few, if any, flaws and even fewer real weaknesses. The classical antihero is the inversion of this. Where the hero is confident, the antihero is plagued by self-doubt. Where the hero is a respected fighter, the antihero is mediocre at best. Where the hero is brave and courageous, the antihero is frightened and cowardly. Where the hero gets all the ladies, the antihero can't even get the time of day.

In short, while the traditional hero is a paragon of awesomeness, the classical antihero suffers from flaws and hindrances. The classical antihero's story tends to be as much about overcoming his own weaknesses as about conquering the enemy.

As time has gone on, this portrayal has become increasingly popular, as readers enjoy the increased depth of story that comes from a flawed and conflicted character. Hence, the classical antihero has to some extent replaced the traditional hero in the minds of readers as the idea of what a hero should be. It is nowadays rare to find a hero who does not have at least a little of the classical antihero in him.


15 posted on 02/05/2014 7:37:22 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

If Snowden’s an outlaw for exposing outlaws, who’s innocent ?


16 posted on 02/05/2014 7:38:31 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: knarf

My point exactly. The US government has become the institutionalized mafia.


17 posted on 02/05/2014 7:45:13 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

Whatever you think of Snowden, the kid has guts. I’m not sure that someday he might not be considered a hero for doing this even though he has damaged national security. A government that denies the truth to its own people isn’t a government anyone should trust, even if it’s the American government.


18 posted on 02/05/2014 7:46:48 AM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: OrangeHoof

Totally agree. The US government is rotting with liars, thieves and murderers. Not to mention that I think the shoe is about to drop and the markets are now collapsing with at least a 50-60% collapse down to a 7000 DOW.


19 posted on 02/05/2014 7:48:49 AM PST by GilGil
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To: GilGil

They, the news people, like to show how acts and words by Snowden betray the ‘American’ spirit. They do not want to touch that the chief justice was caught carrying a briefcase into the bank of the Vatican on Malta during the time questions were being raised about his adopted Irish children.


20 posted on 02/05/2014 7:49:16 AM PST by noinfringers2 ( /*)
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To: GilGil

Has Snowden said when the mass recording of US citizen phone calls started? Has he said anything about the British recording our citizens and the US recording British citizens, and then swapping the info?

Freegards


21 posted on 02/05/2014 7:52:59 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: GilGil

Possibly things going on behind closed doors even worse, such as subtle threats regarding his family.

“Did they have some blackmail materials on him...”


22 posted on 02/05/2014 7:54:58 AM PST by Cedar
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To: Cedar

It is as if it is every man for himself in the US government.


23 posted on 02/05/2014 8:02:38 AM PST by GilGil
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To: Ransomed
Has Snowden said when the mass recording of US citizen phone calls started?

No, not that I can see.

Has he said anything about the British recording our citizens and the US recording British citizens, and then swapping the info?

Yes. -- Take a listen to about 20:00-30:00 [IIRC] on the interview.

24 posted on 02/05/2014 8:07:01 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Sorry, 10min-20min.


25 posted on 02/05/2014 8:07:39 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RayChuang88

Oh Man, Holder would be on that like shine on a bowling ball... NOT!


26 posted on 02/05/2014 8:09:45 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: GilGil

James Clapper should have been fired, tarred and feathered a long time ago.


27 posted on 02/05/2014 8:23:21 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks, I guess he doesn’t really say what I was talking about, I heard that Brit-US data swap thing at least 25 years ago, I think. The way I heard it was to get around the law in both countries or something.

I’m not sure why he wants journalists to make the decisions as to revealing when all this started, I mean what if he disagrees with their decisions? Seems like it’s a pretty obvious question to wonder about.

Freegards


28 posted on 02/05/2014 8:28:08 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
I’m not sure why he wants journalists to make the decisions as to revealing when all this started, I mean what if he disagrees with their decisions? Seems like it’s a pretty obvious question to wonder about.

It might be the extent is so overwhelming that he's concerned that a everything-on-the-table approach could cause a panic; I mean look at the progression we've seen on the official side of things:

  1. We don't collect unwarranted data.
  2. We do collect unwarranted data; but it's only select suspect individuals.
  3. Ok, it's everybody, but only meta-data... not the actual messages.
  4. Oh, btw, we've cracked/subverted security-protocols. // We have intercepts between non-encrypted points on secure servers.
  5. We have the ability to intercept all messages, email, voice, pic, etc -- but we don't.
  6. We actually do (?)

29 posted on 02/05/2014 8:56:40 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GilGil

I will always believe they spied on Roberts, or else, he was a pretender from the start. However, I have not forgotten that there was an incident where Roberts had a seizure not long after he became Chief Justice. I will always wonder now if that was brought on by his being blackmailed by democrats.

They are pure evil and would do anything to compromise a person.


30 posted on 02/05/2014 8:56:41 AM PST by dforest
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To: dforest
I will always wonder now if that was brought on by his being blackmailed by democrats. They are pure evil and would do anything to compromise a person.

Just think, there is no longer any distinction between Democrat and Republican.

31 posted on 02/05/2014 8:58:16 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: GilGil
I've read that Snowden's laptop data was shared by Russian and Chinese spy agencies.

Our main global competitors are aware of the NSA spying techniques.

If Russia and China know the information, why can't I, as an American who paid for the data through taxes, have access to the information also?

The Commies have the information, why can't the American public, as the horse is already out of the barn.

32 posted on 02/05/2014 9:02:45 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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33 posted on 02/05/2014 9:05:09 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: GilGil

When it comes to blatantly unConstitutional and illegal actions by our various levels of government, I hope EVERY hidden “Snowden”-type whistleblower comes forward.


34 posted on 02/05/2014 9:11:08 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I don’t know, seems like a good starting point. It’s strange that we apparently don’t know when it started yet. Seems like the only folks panicking are the people that use the snoopage system.

I mean if it has been going on for 50 years as opposed to 10 years I can’t see more or less impactful outrage like riots or whatever I guess. A simple statement like: For the last _____ years the US government has recorded every telephone conversation made in the US. Why wouldn’t journalists want to cover the ‘when’ of this story? Or am I missing something?

Freegards


35 posted on 02/05/2014 9:16:42 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed
A simple statement like: For the last _____ years the US government has recorded every telephone conversation made in the US. Why wouldn’t journalists want to cover the ‘when’ of this story? Or am I missing something?

If it's a big number, like 50 years, then it illustrates how much contempt is "baked into" our system, not only parties but whole agencies.
If it's something like 20 years, then it illustrates how the law has drastically failed to keep up with technology... and illustrates that both parties are "in on it".
If it's something more recent, like 10 years, then it casts a lot of doubt on recent elections.
If it's something very recent, like 5 years, then things fall squarely on Obama's shoulders — and lends a lot of fuel to things like ineffectual investigations (Fast and Furious) and bizarre behavior from officials (Roberts's ACA ruling).

So, no matter when it happened to start it damages the statist position.

36 posted on 02/05/2014 9:23:43 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; Ransomed

Our government has been running wiretaps since the days of the telegraph. Digital switching has just made it a LOT easier for them to do.

When the PATRIOT Act gave expanded powers to the NSA and Homeland Security... The abuses went into over-drive.

So yeah... Bush’s fault.


37 posted on 02/05/2014 9:26:27 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Carbonsteel; Paladin2; petercooper; Travis McGee; tcrlaf; NEMDF; OwenKellogg; ...
Of probable interest to everyone on the Govt. “Threat List” Names 8 Million Americans Who Will Be Detained When Martial Law Is Imposed-thread; I highly recommend listening to the interview.

(Thread-wide ping.)

38 posted on 02/05/2014 9:29:08 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, the impression I have had with various stories is that it supposedly started on a huge scale after 9/11. That’s just an impression, though.

But I don’t think that is very reasonable. If all phone calls can be recorded I think it probably started long before that. The state certainly had demonstrated it will gladly abuse its powers if it has a security excuse long before that. Or at least that is the way I would bet.

Freegards


39 posted on 02/05/2014 9:32:19 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: Dead Corpse
Our government has been running wiretaps since the days of the telegraph. Digital switching has just made it a LOT easier for them to do.

I don't doubt.

When the PATRIOT Act gave expanded powers to the NSA and Homeland Security... The abuses went into over-drive.
So yeah... Bush’s fault

That, and the bailouts (remember the airlines), really tarnished his presidency IMO.

40 posted on 02/05/2014 9:33:02 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Yeh we watched it today. The govt tried to portray Snowden as an uneducated boob. No wonder they didn’t want you to see this video. I don’t think the govt mentioned he used to work for the CIA.


41 posted on 02/05/2014 9:39:31 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RayChuang88

Maybe that’s the information that Sheriff Arpaio says he’s going to release.


42 posted on 02/05/2014 9:39:52 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: OneWingedShark

Not unexpected.


43 posted on 02/05/2014 9:59:26 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: OneWingedShark

I never asked to be on that ping list (or any ping list), please remove me.


44 posted on 02/05/2014 10:03:30 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
I never asked to be on that ping list (or any ping list), please remove me.

There's no ping-list.

45 posted on 02/05/2014 10:15:59 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: palmer
Right, thanks for the info. Now go to jail.

Why? Do you really think for even one second that our Founding Fathers would've approved of what our current government does to us every day?

I don't.

46 posted on 02/05/2014 10:16:13 AM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: OneWingedShark

I was pinged to this thread along with a bunch of other people, when I wasn’t even on the thread .

That sure seems like a ping list.


47 posted on 02/05/2014 10:33:08 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: ansel12
I was pinged to this thread along with a bunch of other people, when I wasn’t even on the thread.

Yes you were: Post #25.
The ping in question read: Of probable interest to everyone on the Govt. “Threat List” Names 8 Million Americans Who Will Be Detained When Martial Law Is Imposed-thread.

48 posted on 02/05/2014 11:17:18 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: palmer; MeganC
Do you really think for even one second that our Founding Fathers would've approved of what our current government does to us every day?

Yes, that's why the War on Drugs is legitimate [despite needing a constitutional amendment for regulating alcohol] — the Founders would have no issues at all with the solid rulings like Wickard (which said that congress can regulate intrastate commerce because it impacts interstate commerce) and Raich (which says that congress can regulate non-commerce because if there was commerce congress would be able to regulate it).

[/sarc]

49 posted on 02/05/2014 11:21:33 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

What???

I had no posts on this thread, what is with you?


50 posted on 02/05/2014 11:52:22 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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