Skip to comments.You cannot Just say No to the Obamacare race questionnaire
Posted on 02/05/2014 2:57:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
The image below was sent to me by a reader who went for a visit to a physician, and was told that she could not be seen unless she filled out this race and ethnicity questionnaire, and put her name on the form.
She initially refused, but they insisted that it was required or she could not see the doctor. The form does indicate that it is mandatory under Section 4302 of Obamacare.
Section 4302 is explained by HHS as follows:
Overview of Section 4302 of the Affordable Care Act
The Affordable Care Act (ACA) includes several provisions aimed at eliminating health disparities in America. Section 4302 (Understanding health disparities: data collection and analysis) of the ACA focuses on the standardization, collection, analysis, and reporting of health disparities data. While data alone will not reduce disparities, it can be foundational to our efforts to understand the causes, design effective responses, and evaluate our progress.
Section 4302 requires the Secretary of DHHS to establish data collection standards for race, ethnicity, sex, primary language, and disability status. The law requires that, once established, these data collection standards be used, to the extent practicable, in all national population health surveys. In response to this statutory requirement, this implementation guidance outlines the new minimum data collection standards for race, ethnicity, sex, primary language and disability status for implementation in HHS, along with a description of the data standards development process, the rationale for each data standard, and instructions for their implementation.
You cannot Just Say No.
Better yet, simply lie.
Check “Other”. If they ask, say “Kenyan”.
If you can “identify” as any gender you like, I don’t see why you can’t “identify” as any race too.
"Disparities" is another word for inequality. Which means the inequality will have to be fixed by making sure those who are on the wrong side of the inequity get treated while those on the right side don't get treated. See how fair that will work out?
The “race” portion is hilarious.
It confuses race with nationality and ethnicity. There is no genetic basis for the compartments.
It’s a political screed manufactured by deranged zealots, nothing more.
If the Stupid Party wanted to make an issue of it they could probably pick up 5 Congressional seats off of this alone.
But they won’t. That’s why they’re called the Stupid Party...
Lots of whacky stuff there. “La Raza” is a ethnicity? And what’s with all the “races” - looks like a list of members of the UN.
Makes me Feel Right At Home.
Did someone say USSR?
I’m usually feeling very black inside when asked such things.
Noticed that right away. Category must have been compiled by people who are functionally illiterate.
Some strange categories. Spanish Basque is a separate ethnicity, but French Basque is not? There are separate choices for “Guamanian” and “Guamanian or Chamorro.” “Spaniard” is a category, but Portuguese is not, and there is no listing for Brazilian (although most of the Spanish-sepaking Latin American countries get a separate listing). Yapese rates a separate listing (with a few thousand people) but Polish does not?
I can’t recall the exact case names, but there were 2 Supreme Court rulings that, taken together, established that a person’s “race” is whatever they choose it to be.
I use that to justify my claim that my race is Elven :)
“Carolinian” gets to be a race, but not “Texan”?
I’m entering..Not of This World!
I’m not white and who uses color as an ethnicity anymore? I see black on the list but I’m personally afraid to use the term and instead use African-American even though the only two truly African-Americans I’ve ever known were more pale skinned than me. I also prefer not to use Caucasion as my people weren’t from the Caucasus region. I’m definitely Anglo-Saxon but it isn’t on the list. That’s discrimination and I’m offended so I may have to sue someone.
come to think of it...La Raza’s inclusion as a race.....may be a hint that this document is a very clever fake...
And only in the minds of Leftists would biology be something you could legislate!
That's not a "national population health survey". It's a doctor's office questionnaire, and there is no possible way my answers to those questions could in any way effect my treatment. I'd conclude that the doctor is a moron, a danger to my health, and walk out just on that basis.
Well, they need a way to know who to deny care to, and who to grant it to, and who to charge to pay for those who receive care.
Then, I shall be Castilian African American. Or, you can call me Castilian Black if you prefer. I am not picky.
[I chose Castilian because I once was enthralled by a book I read, “Captain from Castile.” Black? Why not?]
“Mixed” isn’t on the list, but it also doesn’t say “Check all that apply.” Granted, it doesn’t say to check only one, either.
I’m calling BS on this, those instructions would never pass muster at any business I have ever worked at. And that list doesn’t even make sense.
If they really cared about things like the differences race makes in disease susceptibility, etc, they wouldn’t crucify people like Jason Richwine for doing genetic research in such matters.
I’m a black woman from Micronesia on all that crap.
I re-did my mortgage and it had all this stuff; I put black.
Census: black Hispanic.
I could enter “Irish-Acadaian.”
Wonder what they’d do with that?
The obvious solution to this is to make up stuff. I, personally, always identify myself as an Andalusian “Other Pacific Islander,” which I think nicely splits the difference with the idiocy of the questions. Only once has anyone blinked an eye. She didn’t know what Andalusian meant. I explained about the Iberian peninsula and her eyes glazed over and she let it drop. I recommend everyone decide, creatively, on their race and ethnicity and stick with it. Worked for Elizabeth Warren.
You’ve never worked for the government, have you?
If you can be Elven, then I can be Titan. I like it.
That makes you part of the problem.
No, but I have filled out forms from them, and these instructions wouldn’t pass muster there either. I think this is a fake.
(But a fun discussion!)
Legal Insurrection is the website of Professor William Jacobson of Cornell Law School. I doubt if he’d post something fake.
Aside from the Nøzi monstrosity at its root, there’s something very odd about that ‘form’ .. disproportionate preponderance of southeast Asian, Micronesian, Pacific island, etc.
So I blanked out the form and didn't send it in.
At some point we're all going to probably be forced to fill out such forms.
Just because a bunch of stupid celebrities decided to OD on prescription drugs doesn't mean that my health records should be open to the DEA, etc. just in case I'm a druggie too.
I would check off all of them and when they questioned me I would answer that I am of the race of man, one of God’s children. Then I would smile and say FOAD.
I do believe someone’s having us on.
Whether accidentally or intentionally is still in question.
Ethnicity - “Canal Zone”???
Yah, I’m a Zonian...but I’m an American Zonian...
I would plead the 5th.
Happily no check box for Jew.
ROFL...I go to doctor this week...oy vey
Just between us, I am sure it will go no farther, under race and ethnic background I threw in white, black, hispanic, American Indian, and then Eskimo, Samonan, Portuguese, and something else that I can’t spell. In truth I am a Melungeon and nobody knows what the hell we are up of, so prove I aint all of the above.
Since I know my doctor is in essence now a government employee I no longer tell my doc the truth about anything. I treat myself as best I can. Broad spectrum antibiotics and penicillin can be had at Tractor Supply or Rural King without a prescription and you can buy needles also. Stock up on vitamins and supplements as the pharma cos. will probably be the only source in the future and that will require a scrip. Do not purchase aspirin or anything else that you put in your body that is made in any Asian country. Read on the label and if it says distributed by a well known American company you can bet it is made in China. If the Chinese will poison your cat or dog what makes you think you are special?
A demand that a person speak is, according to Supreme court precedent, unconstitutional.
If I am ever denied medical attention for not speaking, I shall sue the Physician and the government.
And, I would have standing, for being harmed.
Carolinian?? Oh MY...just what is that?
Carolinian?? Oh MY...just what is that?
The kind of stuff we used to laugh at when it came out of the Soviet Union. Buncha frickin' pathetic losers.