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Firearm standards welcome
telegram.com ^ | 2/5/2014 | Clive McFarlane

Posted on 02/05/2014 10:41:19 PM PST by rktman

I am told that enterprising sheriffs of the Wild West, fed up with the violence and lawlessness that often visited their towns, would ban the carrying of weapons inside the town limits. Visitors to the town would be asked to surrender their guns, with the promise that their hardware would be returned when they were ready to leave town.

Perhaps the common sense of those early days is still pertinent in these troubled times, when 9- and 10-year-old kids can be blown away in the sanctity of their classrooms, and when a congresswoman visiting a mall to mingle with constituents, or moviegoers enjoying the magic of a cinema experience, can be cut down by deranged gunmen.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
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To: lavaroise

Well, we really don’t get to pick what covenant God is raising to our attention when we get a bold statement that “God now commands all men everywhere to repent” — and that in a clear gospel context. The only way to deal with that is either to obey or else to at least have SOME intellectual consistency and chuck the entire New Testament and Jesus out.

Folks who don’t get the role of the Old Testament as shadow and try to wish it literally on a country like America, might as well want us to compute using alphabet blocks. Incidentally, most of the books we call the gospels outline the life of Jesus during a pre-crucifixion ministry in which He showed He could live up to the Law that nobody else could. But that old wineskin proved ultimately to be incapable of containing His new wine.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 1:06:48 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

True. It goes back to historicism. You cannot practice a restrictive law in a vacuum without care to the why or historical background to said law. The Old Testament speaks to whomever resurected Israel through 40 years wandering in the desert of iniquity into a new fresh generation.

The bringing of false charges against God because He was vulnerable in the flesh thus spake volume as to what this generation did not understand yet about God and soul that was truly more profound and intended throughout the Old Testament. Egyptian tyranny was only a material milder manifestation of the battle going on inside one’s soul which was much more cosmic, and that only that particular resurection was true, whereas the law would be applied just to make it materially but without personal meaning.

Liberals are like that, however, as they want some imposed government law on themselves to help them get by despite their evil. They are like the smoker who wants antismoking laws so that they will not die from smoking, though their soul is definitely smoking. They hope that science is this thing which will give them the technology to smoke without the harmful effects. They just want the marching orders of the day reminded to them in a teleprompter without having to bother to honor or understand why. They clearly do not want to be burdened the way we would. They want the formulas, the answers to each problem, but reject the independent mind capable of thinking up the solutions of said formulas in the first place.

However if a material restriction helps one understand Christ, let people impose on themselves their own Old Testament restriction. What is obsolete or seen as archaic is not necesssarily wrong (just like Black and White TV is not wrong in the technological sense, even if not fully fulfilling the role of the tube to its fullest.)


22 posted on 02/06/2014 1:49:04 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: rktman

Gun grabbers gun free zones entice the criminals. Double koolaid for everyone.


23 posted on 02/06/2014 2:25:54 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: rktman

Historical note (not as far back): Marshal Matt Dillon in “Gunsmoke” would take the guns from people in Dodge City based on just his own concern, both on the radio show and on TV. I don’t know if law enforcement actually did that, but even when I was young it bothered me. I wonder if the writers were working even back then to delegitimize firearms in private hands. I’d have to check a lot to see if that happened often in real life.


24 posted on 02/06/2014 2:30:21 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“The topic is a good one because there is always a need for a “basic standard” for most things or there would be anarchy.”

See now I read that as 22 cal, 25 cal, 32 cal, 38 cal, 9mm, 40 cal, 45 cal. Standards are required. (Oh, there are at least two 9mm. One is 1 1/16 and one is 1 3/16 my Kahr doesn’t like the taller stuff. I have to measure it before loading.)


25 posted on 02/06/2014 3:49:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Lay some of that Clive jive on me, brother.”

It figures,”way out West,” is “the western reaches of Mass of Two $hits” Another “Holder’s Person” stinking up that worthless state! You’d never hear “To Arms, To Arms the British are coming” there today, rather some “Somali newspaper columnist” ranting about the shame of it that there area any guns around at all.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 4:23:07 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Vendome

To quote the prosecutions “star” witness in the GZ trial: “That’s retardet sir.” ;>} (I know what type of “uniform” this asshat should be wearing.)


27 posted on 02/06/2014 5:32:56 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

People names Clive should only be allowed to comment on British law...

;-)


28 posted on 02/06/2014 5:38:18 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS
OOOps!

People named Clive...

29 posted on 02/06/2014 5:38:52 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS

He’s just lucky we have the constitution to prevent the government from interfering with our rights. Hmmm. Something seems to be amiss here. Oh yeah. The Bill of Rights only protects what libs want it to protect. Kind of like the constitution guarantees a womans right to have an abortion. Hmmm. That’s not in there? WTH? Somebody been lyin’.


30 posted on 02/06/2014 5:41:45 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
Liberal Fantasy


31 posted on 02/06/2014 6:21:06 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: rktman

The truth of the old West was that by the time a town was large enough to have two streets, it would divide into the good side of town and the bad side of town. And the larger the town got, the greater the contrast between these two sides.

Gunfights were almost exclusively in the bad part of town. The typical gunfight was of a drunk challenging a bartender to come out on the street. For his part, the bartender would grab a shotgun, leave by the backdoor and emerge behind the drunk, to the drunk’s detriment.

And while towns went to great lengths to keep people from having guns, the same result happened that exists today in places like Chicago. Only the honest people would surrender their guns.


32 posted on 02/06/2014 7:24:55 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Damn. Now I’m a criminal. Or at least “not and honest person”. ;>}


33 posted on 02/06/2014 7:32:03 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman

We already have firearm standards, SAAMI


34 posted on 02/06/2014 5:55:51 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: rktman

They used to tell the newspapers what to print too.

Maybe Clive wants to give up his lappy-top when he hits the city limits. ‘Course we’d have to check the websites he visits, any secrets he might be harboring, just whom he has been emailing and why. His phone too, for that matter.

We’ll treat the 1st Amendment as carefully as the 2nd.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 6:01:30 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: lavaroise

It isn’t like black and white TV. It’s like busting the tube and the hero in the movie steps out and greets you.


36 posted on 02/06/2014 11:04:03 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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