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‘Screw Canada’: Arrest of gun-toting American at Canadian border enrages U.S. firearms community
National Post ^ | FEBRUARY 5, 2014 | Douglas Quan, Postmedia News

Posted on 02/06/2014 2:52:36 AM PST by rickmichaels

“Screw Canada.”

“Another reason not to venture to the dark north.”

Gun-related message boards lit up this week over news of the arrest of an American man at the Canadian border.

Retired U.S. Army sergeant major Louis DiNatale and his wife were on a romantic getaway from Kentucky to Vermont when they say their GPS led them astray to the border.

When DiNatale failed to declare a loaded handgun in the centre console — he says he simply forgot it was there — he was detained for four days and now faces gun-smuggling charges that could land him in prison for three years.

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1 posted on 02/06/2014 2:52:36 AM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

This is ridiculous. Is there no common sense anymore?

If the border guards don’t want him to bring his gun in, turn him around.

I am trying to get the gun laws changed here thought too, where I am, everyone has them, and nobody has problems with them. It’s time the government stops trying to squash our rights.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 3:02:26 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

He forgot he had a handgun in the console while going into Canada? Yea right! If he actually did forget he’s a moron. I’ve hunted in Ontario and Manitoba 6 times with a rifle and a bow, theres some things you don’t forget.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 3:13:07 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Dusty Road

Agreed... Unfortunately, the bar is much higher for CC and law abiding citizens in the current environment...

But I do believe that Canadian Authorities most definitely over-reacted...


4 posted on 02/06/2014 3:31:47 AM PST by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: rickmichaels

I live three hours from the VT-PQ border, and I’ve crossed it many times (always remembering to leave my firearms at home).

Given the various routes over the line, I call BS on “the GPS made me do it”.


5 posted on 02/06/2014 3:34:25 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: Bulwyf
This is ridiculous. Is there no common sense anymore? If the border guards don’t want him to bring his gun in, turn him around.

There's a lot of missing information in this story.

6 posted on 02/06/2014 3:35:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. E)
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To: rickmichaels

What would have happened to a Canadian that did the same thing crossing into NY state? He would have been very lucky to have spent only 4 days in the can.


7 posted on 02/06/2014 3:36:18 AM PST by expat1000
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To: Dusty Road

He should have been upfront with them. Those guards know the rules and understand people sometimes make mistakes.

At the start of a new job I rolled into the base not realizing I’d forgotten to unpack my long guns which were inside a duffel bag in the truck’s toolbox. Not recognizing my vehicle the gate guards pulled me over for inspection. I was asked to open the tool box and the duffel bag end was open, propped with barrels sticking out, propped up against the box frame. So when I opened it the guard sees these barrels pointing out at him and says “Ooooh”. I had to make an inbriefing and wanted to leave the duffel bag at the guard shack but he says “would you allow me to do that”? That settled it. Drove home and missed the indoc.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 3:39:29 AM PST by Justa
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To: bfh333

It’s their country and their laws, good thing he wasn’t going into Mexico. I’ve taken firearms across both borders at least a dozen times into Mexico for Deer and birds. Know the laws and you’ll have no problem, violate them and you’ve got problems. To say you forgot ain’t going to fly.


9 posted on 02/06/2014 3:45:12 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Jim Noble

Yep his story is a little hard to swallow, but bull chit always is.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 3:47:52 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: rickmichaels
F*ck Canada.

Two years ago we had to go to Canada on business. At the border they treated us like criminals.

My wife and I always take a can of pepper spray with us. It protects against dangerous dogs and certain animals. I have squirted charging pit bulls in the face and instantly turned them away.

We like to walk in the outdoors. People have been attacked by coyotes, cougars, etc., and the spray is a good deterrent.

But the Canadian border nazis siezed my pepper spray, searched my car and made us wait for over two hours to get in to their pathetic country.

Business or not, I'll never go into Canada again.

11 posted on 02/06/2014 3:50:54 AM PST by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: Bulwyf
No, there is no common sense anymore.

Turning him around would be the easy/common sense thing to do, but don't expect common sense to reign at any border crossing. For example:

I sometimes drive around with a quantity of drugs that are freely available in Canada over the counter (each pill contains 8 grams of codeine). I don't know what would happen to me if I tried to cross the US border with a couple of hundred of these and told the officer "I forgot they were in the car." I inspect my own car before I cross the border for a reason.

12 posted on 02/06/2014 3:51:20 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: rickmichaels

If they made a mistake and was lost than I believe they should be let go with a warning and a “turn around”. However, if they were vacationing with the weapon then it would be different story. I know they are another country but I feel the same way with states rights. They can do as they please. However, Canada can even more than one of our states since they do not have a second amendment. This was an easy common sense story that Canada dropped the ball on.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 3:59:48 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Bulwyf

It’s time the government stops trying to squash our rights.

Unfortunately you do not have a second amendment. Do you have a right to arms up in Canada in your Constitution?


14 posted on 02/06/2014 4:01:06 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

I understand you check you car, as do I. Like Jim Noble said, perhaps there’s too much missing still. It’s just a big sore spot for me living in Alberta that I can’t defend myself.

I mean, if I’m hiking or something along those lines, I carry a shotgun or rifle, but even then I can’t carry one of my handguns or carry concealed, it’s just plain stupid.


15 posted on 02/06/2014 4:01:50 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Dusty Road

He’s from Kentucky visiting Vermont. He wasn’t hunting. The gun he kept was for protection, he dosent take it out unless he needs it. Your bow and rifle was part of the main reason you were going.

Sounds like you agree with the draconian laws against self protection.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 4:02:10 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Dusty Road

From what I read it said he was lost. I grew up on the border, and if you turned down the wrong road, it was easy to wind up at a crossing.

I just don’t see why he wasn’t turned around unless he was trying to intentionally smuggle something across with intent to sell or something along those lines. If that was the case, wouldn’t it of made more sense to try a little harder to hide it heh.


17 posted on 02/06/2014 4:03:45 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: eCSMaster

Two years ago we had to go to Canada on business. At the border they treated us like criminals.

Actually I am glad that they are so strict. They do not have near the illegals that we do. We are WAY to easy at the border. I know it probably sucks being treated like a criminal, but at least they are going to continue having their country unlike us.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 4:04:09 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Jim Noble

You’re right, there is a lot missing. It did strike me as a bit odd that his GPS led him off course and he winds up at a border crossing. If that’s the case why didn’t he just turn around at that point when he realized that wasn’t the way he wanted to go?


19 posted on 02/06/2014 4:04:43 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Vaquero

Sounds like you agree with the draconian laws against self protection.

It’s Canada! If it was our country then I would be upset but are we going to dictate foreign countries now? Would we want the states to do that? Freedom is freedom and the countries can set their own rules.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 4:06:51 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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