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A Group Of Snipers Shot Up A Silicon Valley Power Station Before Slipping Into The Night
businessinsider.com ^

Posted on 02/06/2014 5:40:21 AM PST by ClaytonP

The Wall Street Journal's Rebecca Smith reports that a former Federal Energy Regulatory Commission chairman is acknowledging for the first time that a group of snipers shot up a Silicon Valley substation for 19 minutes last year, knocking out 17 transformers before slipping away into the night.

The attack was "the most significant incident of domestic terrorism involving the grid that has ever occurred" in the U.S., Jon Wellinghoff, who was chairman of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission at the time, told Smith.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: snipers; wot
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1 posted on 02/06/2014 5:40:21 AM PST by ClaytonP
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2 posted on 02/06/2014 5:45:34 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: ClaytonP

“Group of Snipers”

I seriously doubt that.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 5:51:02 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ClaytonP

“violent” trial balloon to see how officials would react. Likely more to come.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 5:53:46 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your lid on; don't let anyone dump garbage on you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Environazis?


5 posted on 02/06/2014 5:57:51 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wait ‘till a robot-aimed BMG 50 is used to kill one of the engines on a passenger jet in flight.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 5:59:08 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
I doubt the trail balloon theory. This was a successful attack. If these guys wanted to take down the grid it looks like they could have done it. Why tip-off authorities to future attacks.

My suspicion is eco-terrorist.

7 posted on 02/06/2014 6:00:13 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL!!!!


8 posted on 02/06/2014 6:04:59 AM PST by 556x45
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To: ClaytonP

Given that sub-stations are usually located in quiet, out of the way sorts of locations; I would imagine that damaging one would not be too daunting a task.


9 posted on 02/06/2014 6:05:28 AM PST by billorites (nichtarbeit macht frei)
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To: 556x45

I wondered if anyone would get it.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 6:10:12 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: 11th Commandment

If indeed it is a terrorist, perhaps they were attempting to evaluate just how much havoc this would wreak with emergency response systems so they could judge its multiplicative effects when used concomitantly with future attacks against other higher value targets?


11 posted on 02/06/2014 6:10:47 AM PST by RC one
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, well, its ‘ancient’ history by now isnt it. So much stupid has occurred in between that its hard to keep track of it all. LOL, the all knowing govt on display.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 6:12:16 AM PST by 556x45
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To: ClaytonP
time to shield and build new transformers with bullet proofing.

Bang away, Mustafa!

13 posted on 02/06/2014 6:13:08 AM PST by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: billorites

Few years back, a local shot up the Alaska oil pipeline with a hunting rifle; kid had been drinking too much. Oil spill on the tundra. They threw the book at that Indian Kid; he didn’t even remember the incident the nx day. Wasn’t terrorism either.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 6:13:23 AM PST by Eska
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To: ClaytonP

This area of Santa Clara county is very sparsely populated. There are still lots of fields and places to hide. It is no real surprise that someone (for whatever their reasons) decided to fire on the Metcalf station. The bigger concern should be that instead of ‘homegrown’ terrorists, it is more likely the influx of foreign muslims into the area.

Bigger point is that again low tech terrorism defeats high tech ‘protection’


15 posted on 02/06/2014 6:14:07 AM PST by Nifster
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To: SampleMan

From the article, over 100 empty cartridges found grouped at multiple firing points. The shooting lasted 19 minutes. Plus, a nearby internet link and a telephone circuit were cut. This is not likely to be the work of a single agent. It might be no more than 3-4, but was almost certainly more than one.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 6:16:01 AM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: ClaytonP

And how does Mr. Wellinghoff know that this was “domestic terrorism” since the perpetrators have not been caught, and the evidence seems to be limited to a pile of rocks, a bunch of shell casings for 7.62 x 39 mm rounds, and presumably the bullets themselves with any possible ballistics evidence much degraded by passing through the housing and other metal components of the transformers?


17 posted on 02/06/2014 6:17:09 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: ClaytonP

I didn’t know that snipers worked in groups.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 6:22:26 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: PATRIOT1876

Former Solyndra employees?.................


19 posted on 02/06/2014 6:23:17 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: ClaytonP
“more than 100 fingerprint-free shell casings similar to ones used by AK-47s that were found at the site and small piles of rocks that appeared to have been left by an advance scout to tell the attackers where to get the best shots.”

Whoever did this had detailed schematics and knew exactly where to attack to take out the power plant. Telephone lines and other communications had been cut prior to the attack.

The question is why did they use AK-47s when explosives would be much more effective. And why did they attack only one power plant. A coordinated attack would have been much more effective.

In the article the FBI is quoted as saying they don't believe it was a terror group. There is no explanation for why they felt that way.

20 posted on 02/06/2014 6:24:34 AM PST by detective
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To: ClaytonP

There is little doubt that this was either a well-organized prank (not likely) or a well-organized trial run.

Who did this is not as important as the risk analysis to this and other stations.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 6:26:21 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: ClaytonP

It could have been some drunk teenagers with hunting rifles.


22 posted on 02/06/2014 6:28:50 AM PST by pallis
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To: Little Pig
It might be no more than 3-4, but was almost certainly more than one.

My issue wasn't with the plural form, but with the noun itself.

23 posted on 02/06/2014 6:34:06 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
CincyRichieRich:" “violent” trial balloon to see how officials would react.
Likely more to come."

I agree that there is more attacks likely to occur.
The article states that there were small piles of rocks to demonsrate ideal locations where to shoot from
suggests that there was an expierienced shooter marking ideal locations for maximum effectiveness at knocking out the station.
This was not a 'hastey' act of domestic terrorism, actually it demonsrates a plan and calculation.
Additionally , since transformers are no longer made in the USA , the plant was knocked offline for a month until replacments could be ordered and delivered.
What if next time two or three substations were knocked out simultaneously ?
I beleive that it was a practice to determine vulnerability of the electrical system , and to evaluate the power company response .

24 posted on 02/06/2014 6:37:02 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: billorites

Its not difficult at all. Another incident happened in AR recently and knocked out power to about 10,000 people. The perps scratched a message into a metal door or something to the effect of didn’t you know we were coming?

Mr. GG2 thinks this is muslim terrorists. I don’t I think its domestic.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 6:37:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CincyRichieRich
“violent” trial balloon to see how officials would react. Likely more to come.

Yup.

Expect lots more video cameras in the neighborhood of utility substations, high-capacity power lines, etc.

26 posted on 02/06/2014 6:39:37 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: ClaytonP

An old story getting new attention... why now?
Is Øbama going to claim he saved us from an attack?
Isnt there a county gun range near there? and dont the LEOs train around there also?


27 posted on 02/06/2014 6:41:27 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: ClaytonP

Back in the mid-70s when I was in college, there was a strike by union workers for the power company. I got a job with Wells Fargo Security as an unarmed guard at a sub-station. All of the sub-stations had guards because a few of the transformers had been damaged by gunfire. We were just there to call the cops if something happens. 24-hour guards for all those stations was a huge expense to the power company but it was a great job for doing homework! Even with guards, the damage could have easily been done with a slim chance of being caught.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 6:43:30 AM PST by 'smith
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To: PATRIOT1876

This is what happens when you live in an extreme liberal area like California. Eventually, anything that is remotely a symbol of Capitalism gets attacked — literally. It doesn’t matter how much money Silicon Valley gives to Gore and Obama, they are the enemy.


29 posted on 02/06/2014 6:45:25 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: billorites

Without spelling it out, just do what they did in this story.
Equipment can be replaced but it would take several days and
supply is limited.


30 posted on 02/06/2014 6:55:57 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Uncle Chip
I would hope that extractor marks, firing pin indent characteristics, and possibly fingerprints on the shell casings would indicate if this were one shooter who changed positions several times or multiple shooters. 19 minutes is plenty of time to shoot, move, shoot with pre-planned and scouted positions...

I would lean towards a single shooter myself. If you're going to do something criminal and stupid the chances of getting caught go up exponentially with the number of people in on it. The fact that they haven't gotten a line on this means it is either a small group of extremely well disciplined people or more likely just one whack-job that knows how to keep his mouth shut.

31 posted on 02/06/2014 6:59:36 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ├čudda├čudd; ClaytonP
Is Øbama going to claim he saved us from an attack?

No, there's going to be a massive power outage at some point, with "domestic terrorism" to be the claimed cause, thereby providing a figleaf for the imposition of martial law in several areas.

This was, in my belief, the setting up of the chessboard. Yeah, the individual shooters may have been domestics, kids even...and if they were Moose Limbs what would it matter...so long as no one was caught. That was Move #1. Move #2 we just saw...after "careful analysis" this was determined to be "domestic terrorism." Move #3 will be a far larger, and far more obviously coordinated, attack on many such stations across the country. Those attacks will be used as the excuse for a "limited declaration of emergency" (i.e. martial law)...and if no one reacts too badly to that, it'll go nationwide as further orchestrated attacks take place. If, OTOH, there is widespread opposition (especially violent reaction to the suspension of Constitutional rights), then it'll go nationwide with a full-court press on the "extreme right-wing terrorists in our midst."

The best way to think of this is that it'll be our Reichstag Fire moment. A bit more sophisticated and time-consuming, but then again, the US now isn't 1930s Germany (which was far more accepting of an authoritarian ruler, having essentially never experienced real democracy).

Face it, folks, there's a fight coming. The so-called Progressives are really Communists, and this is the thing for which they've been planning for nearly a century (both here and in the USSR). Let's be awake and aware, and when the time comes let's win the fight that they have brought to us.

32 posted on 02/06/2014 7:01:42 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: CincyRichieRich
yeah, R.O.P. Muslims or Marxists.. even criminals
..shoot tranformer/disable security meas./rob facility/
get $$$$/even terrorists need $$$$
and besides who'll admit to the robbery, given rotten security measures.

33 posted on 02/06/2014 7:25:56 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Ancesthntr

“No, there’s going to be a massive power outage at some point, with “domestic terrorism” to be the claimed cause, thereby providing a figleaf for the imposition of martial law in several areas. “

Yes, one of my pet theories. That and the Iranians or some other state sponsored hacking will put the grid down. Its going down its just a matter of time. If you don’t have a back up system you are going to be one miserable pup.


34 posted on 02/06/2014 7:26:38 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Ancesthntr

Good analysis my friend,,,
Time will tell.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 7:27:24 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: detective

I’m surprised a standard, jacketed 7.62X39 round penetrates a station transformer side. I worked a spill at one a few years back where it had been overfilled with cooling oil (to the very top, and the units have fill lines for expansion of the oil based on typical operating temperatures). The bolts, a LOT of them, on the access cover plate sheared while the body of the unit didn’t appear any worse for wear and the plate was ~1/4”+ thick.


36 posted on 02/06/2014 7:27:39 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

17 minutes of rifle fire is the worst terrorism ever on the grid?

A group of middle school kids could do that.

When the professionals get involved it’s going to much worse.


37 posted on 02/06/2014 7:31:31 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping to #32


38 posted on 02/06/2014 7:32:48 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Ancesthntr
yeah, and just how many pieces of electrical infrastructure
do we have? ..many unshielded targets, disruption of society.

39 posted on 02/06/2014 7:36:14 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: ClaytonP

40 posted on 02/06/2014 7:43:04 AM PST by Bratch
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To: Erik Latranyi

One important fact left out of this article is that it happened at the same time as the boston marathon bombing. This is the reason this attack is not well known. Everyone’s attention was on boston.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 7:48:29 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: ClaytonP

Operational test. Proof of concept. Finding out if it will work with AK-47-similar (?) weapons (the less exotic the better). Link to article at The Blaze (is that okay?):

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/28/was-mysterious-attack-on-calif-power-station-a-dress-rehearsal-for-much-larger-assault-on-u-s-electrical-grid/


42 posted on 02/06/2014 7:59:11 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: ClaytonP

Everybody knows snipers travel in large groups, and everybody knows that snipers have great fondness for the super-accurate AK-47 for long range work. /sarc


43 posted on 02/06/2014 8:27:44 AM PST by afsnco
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To: PLMerite
Operational test. Proof of concept. Finding out if it will work with AK-47-similar (?) weapons (the less exotic the better). Link to article at The Blaze (is that okay?):

Even if there are no further attacks this could eventually result in millions (or billions) being spent on various security/shielding mechanisms and regulations.

44 posted on 02/06/2014 8:53:10 AM PST by ClaytonP
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To: ClaytonP

Happens all of the time in the rural SE US. Why do you think that the rail road cars carrying new vehicles are enclosed now? Not only does that keep them from being stripped but prevents vandals from shooting out the windshields and tires.


45 posted on 02/06/2014 9:15:02 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: ThunderSleeps
“I would hope that extractor marks, firing pin indent characteristics, and possibly fingerprints on the shell casings would indicate if this were one shooter who changed positions several times or multiple shooters.”

Not to worry for Kali now has “Micro stamping” which would stop all further instances of this nefarious terroristic vandalism. Just think how a EO for micro stamping on a national level would help. Of course the usual parties would be exempt,lawmakers, LE, military etc /s

46 posted on 02/06/2014 9:15:45 AM PST by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: ClaytonP

“Even if there are no further attacks this could eventually result in millions (or billions) being spent on various security/shielding mechanisms and regulations.”

Quite true. For very little effort they panic their enemy and make him spread his resources even thinner, trying to negate every vulnerability, which is impossible. Mao probably had a quaint turn of phrase for it, but I don’t remember it.


47 posted on 02/06/2014 10:39:06 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Mr. GG2 thinks this is muslim terrorists. I don’t I think its domestic.”

Even if they are muslim if they’re here legally it’ll be called “domestic terrorism” or even “workplace violence” if they can at all get away with it.


48 posted on 02/06/2014 10:45:31 AM PST by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite

Worked at a power plant in Pittsburgh can back in the 90’s. you could walk through the tank farm and collect spent 99th and 7.62mm bullets. The gang banners used to drive by and pop off a few rounds.
Other parts of the country have long had a problem with idiots shooting at the ceramic insulators on transformers and transmission lines. Cooper theft is also a problem on remote sites with phone alarm and other low voltage circuits being targeted. This could be a trial run, it could also be stupidity.


49 posted on 02/06/2014 12:18:43 PM PST by Fellow Traveler
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Or that while shooting he pushed up a pile of rocks/gravel with his foot.


50 posted on 02/06/2014 7:03:48 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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