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CALIFORNIANS TURN TO RAIN DANCES FOR DROUGHT RELIEF
KSBY News ^ | 2/2/2014 | Olivia DeGennaro

Posted on 02/06/2014 8:18:00 AM PST by Phillyred

The Central Coast is in much need of rain, and one group is asking for it in a unique way. The Central Coast Center for Spiritual Living hosted a rain dance in Templeton Park on Saturday. A Native American reverend led the dance. Rain dances have been performed by American Indians for hundreds of years, to evoke water during dry seasons. The Center for Spiritual Living says it believes the power of many minds focused on the same goal will produce results. They also held a meditation session after the dance, and prayed for rain.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; dance; drought

1 posted on 02/06/2014 8:18:00 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Phillyred

I guess praying is out of the question in CA....


2 posted on 02/06/2014 8:20:26 AM PST by PTBAA
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To: Phillyred

3 posted on 02/06/2014 8:22:13 AM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: Phillyred

Maybe they should be turning to the west instead.

All that water in the Pacific Ocean they have out there and they can’t figure out how to use it.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 8:22:21 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Phillyred

Arthur C. Clarke once wrote, back when NOAA was seeding clouds with silver iodide crystals in an effort to make rain back in the 60’s: A modern scientist would be hard pressed to explain to a witch doctor how his making smoke to create rain is any different than his making smoke to make rain...................


5 posted on 02/06/2014 8:23:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Phillyred

Timing has a lot to do with the success of a ‘rain dance’.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 8:23:52 AM PST by Parmy
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To: Phillyred

What ever happened to cloud seeding and con trails? This reactionary pseudo-religious behavior cannot be tolerated!!!!


7 posted on 02/06/2014 8:24:17 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Uncle Chip

Maybe they should reduce consumption. Hey, here’s an idea. Stop being a sanctuary state. Send all them messycans back to that hole they came from. Then maybe kalifornia wouldn’t be such a hole.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 8:24:23 AM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: Phillyred

Next, a voodoo priestess will shake some magic chicken bones and a dowser will find a vast new aquifer using nothing but a forked stick.

And the Coast Toasties think us folks here in Flyover Country are a bunch of backwoods rubes ...


9 posted on 02/06/2014 8:31:17 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Red Badger

Climate lasts all the time and weather only a few days. - Mark Twain essay, attributed to anonymous students............


10 posted on 02/06/2014 8:31:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Phillyred

Run to the climate hubs and get your seat on the sand arcs!

Just make sure you bring two same sex democrats or they won’t let you in!


11 posted on 02/06/2014 8:31:34 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: LouAvul

Yeh — just think about all the water that is consumed by the interlopers crossing into California.

The least they can do is require the interlopers to bring their own water with them.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 8:33:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Phillyred
..... Of course we all know this is because of Global Warming don't we?

.... Oh .... and add that to the fact that in the mid 90's the enlightened ones in California decided to divert a huge portion of water away from cities and farm lands to save some minnows in the Delta thus creating a predictable disaster in the cities and farming communities. Since then there has been near dust bowl conditions in much of the farming areas of Central CA .... but the enlightened ones will insist that this disaster is a result of Global Warming and not their disdain of the Technology that created the ability to farm the desert lands in the first place.

.... The enlightened ones live in denial ... and the solution to the drought problems is actually obvious to the ones that they consider to be vapid idiots ... but who in fact are the true enlightened ones ... the ones with the solutions.

13 posted on 02/06/2014 8:33:19 AM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: IronJack

Ah, that phrase brought back memories of the early days of VCRs, when my buddy and I would haul our two massive Video machines together and make copies of tapes. Since the process seemed beyond comprehension to most people (it required three RCA cables), we just told them we used a magic chicken bone ;-)

But, by CA standards, doing the rain dance is fairly sane. I hear it works better if they dance naked and stream live video, however...


14 posted on 02/06/2014 8:39:05 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Phillyred

The solution, which California will never accept, is clear: http://www.jta.org/2013/05/28/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/water-surplus-in-israel-with-desalination-once-unthinkable-is-possible


15 posted on 02/06/2014 8:41:36 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: Phillyred

The pot plants must be dying off.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 8:42:27 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Uncle Chip
Watermelons and control freaks control the "show".
17 posted on 02/06/2014 8:44:59 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Phillyred

THE PROBLEM

Deuteronomy 11:16-18

16 Be careful, or you will be enticed to turn away and worship other gods and bow down to them.
17 Then the Lord’s anger will burn against you, and He will shut up the heavens so that it will not rain and the ground will yield no produce, and you will soon perish from the good land the Lord is giving you.
18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

THE ANSWER

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 8:45:37 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: R_Kangel
On I-5 and other Cenrral Valley roads you'ss see a lot of these signs.

I don't know what group puts them up.

It is about the smelt.

19 posted on 02/06/2014 8:47:46 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Phillyred
Abortion on demand and elevating a 3rd gender to social norms, and they didn't think there wouldn't be divine consequences?

Stupid hurts.

We are enjoying the rain here in NC. Looking forward to a great planting season Lord willing.

20 posted on 02/06/2014 8:48:23 AM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Phillyred

time for a Janet Reno dance party.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 8:48:31 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

I’m not surprised that they waited until the forecast called for rain before beginning to dance. Waiting for the claims of success...


22 posted on 02/06/2014 8:54:41 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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Because global warming is all about the science


23 posted on 02/06/2014 8:55:57 AM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Phillyred
How I beckon the rain


24 posted on 02/06/2014 8:58:55 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Phillyred
Native American Senator “Teaches Many Lies” should sacrifice her time to go across country, do her patented dance of lies, and bring some fresh H2O to those pour souls in California.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 9:04:30 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Phillyred
Heres some draught relief


26 posted on 02/06/2014 9:09:04 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: IronJack

“Next, a voodoo priestess will shake some magic chicken bones and a dowser will find a vast new aquifer using nothing but a forked stick.”

I kinda doubt the chicken bone thing, but I attest to the fact that you CAN find water with a ‘divining wand’.

Take two wire coat hangers and straighten them out. Then twist the the two together except leaving two ‘handles’ on one end.

It will look like a large ‘L’ except there will be a short leg on each side.

It should be quite long when finished and all you can do gripping the small wire handles to keep it out straight.

You can test it by gripping it to hold it out straight while walking over an area that you know has underground springs.

When you go over an underground spring it will point down like it was pulled by a powerful magnet. You won’t be able to grip it tight enough to keep it from pointing down.

An old farmer showed me how it worked and I was amazed at how well it works.


27 posted on 02/06/2014 9:10:38 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: Parmy

***Timing has a lot to do with the success of a ‘rain dance’.***

How true! I have a book written by George Catlin in which the Mandans were trying to conjure up rain. One man on an earthen lodge singing his songs to bring rain when lightning struck and killed him.

The people began to mourn and wail, another medicine man noticed the clouds still building, then he ran upon the earth lodge began to sing and dance, then the rains came.

The second medicine man, who was not killed, took all the credit for the rain, which Catlin said was forming naturally.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 9:12:03 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Beagle8U

“When you go over an underground spring it will point down like it was pulled by a powerful magnet. “

You should warn people. I made one and tried it out over a lake. It pulled me to the bottom and I almost drowned.


29 posted on 02/06/2014 9:15:18 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Uncle Chip

Huh? I heard they’ve got kalifornicators at the border handing out water for those adventurous invaders.


30 posted on 02/06/2014 9:15:22 AM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: Phillyred

They did it in the early 90’s (1992 I think) in San Diego. It worked. March was so rainy it ended a drought of several years in one month.


31 posted on 02/06/2014 9:17:38 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Phillyred

The Indians know rain dances. Get them out of their casinos and doing something useful.


32 posted on 02/06/2014 9:17:51 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: TexasGator

Except you’re talking bull$hit, and I offered fact that might interest some FReepers.


33 posted on 02/06/2014 9:18:18 AM PST by Beagle8U (Unions are Affirmative Action for Slackers! .)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Here’s some info on desalinization

http://www.pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/desalination_report3.pdf

Carlsbad Cal is building a plant which is slated to open in 2016, 16 years after the proposal was approved by the city. Administrative hearings and court processes in which environmental groups got several bites of the apple trying to shoot it down.

What happens to the salt?

The desalination plant typically uses three kilograms of seawater to produce 1 kilogram of fresh water. The extracted salt dissolves in the excess sea water used in the process to form so-called brine. The brine is returned to the sea where it is diluted again in its natural medium.

Can salt be recovered?

The usual desalination processes do not provide for such recovery. Whereas they concentrate seawater 1.5 times, recovery of salt would require seawater to be concentrated ten times. Under such conditions the first crystals would appear in the brine. This would require a lot of energy and cannot be justified on an economic standpoint. Today whenever a large surface area is available close to a sunny seashore, salt pans, which make use of solar energy, are still the best method of salt production.


34 posted on 02/06/2014 9:20:49 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: BlueStateRightist

Billions were spent in the last drought with a desalination plant that was shutdown and abandoned.

The only working plant I know of is on Catalina Island.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 9:22:20 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: Beagle8U

“Except you’re talking bull$hit, and I offered fact that might interest some FReepers”

You don’t believe me?


36 posted on 02/06/2014 9:23:24 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
You should warn people. I made one and tried it out over a lake. It pulled me to the bottom and I almost drowned.

Also, divining during a rain storm will cause you to fly upward into the clouds. Be careful out there.
37 posted on 02/06/2014 9:23:34 AM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: edcoil

“Billions were spent in the last drought with a desalination plant that was shutdown and abandoned.”

Why was it abandoned? Politics? Cost? Has the technology improved?


38 posted on 02/06/2014 9:39:21 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Permit approved for desalination plant at Huntington Beach
The bid to build a sea water-to-drinking water facility at Huntington Beach is cleared by a regional water board. But environmentalists say the plan endangers sea creatures and risks fouling the ocean with discharge.

Nut cases from the fringe that sue everyone or stop any progress.


39 posted on 02/06/2014 9:45:28 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: Uncle Chip

“All that water in the Pacific Ocean they have out there and they can’t figure out how to use it.”

It would have been real easy years ago when we were building nuclear power plants instead of closing them. And If Jerry the Fairy really wanted to leave his mark here, he’d be dropping his Billion Dollar Toonerville Trolley, and begin in earnest to solve our water problem. At least he could cut off water deliveries from Northern California to the $hit hole that is Los Angeles.


40 posted on 02/06/2014 10:10:59 AM PST by vette6387
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To: ZX12R; Beagle8U

“Also, divining during a rain storm will cause you to fly upward into the clouds. Be careful out there.”

Also, some umbrellas exibit this phenomenon making them unsafe for use. This is probably what happened to Mary Poppins.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 10:11:07 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: All

San Luis Obispo county is a reasonably sane place, the article not withstanding. However there is one county supe who is unhinged. If you want to have a chuckle, google ‘Adam Hill calcoastnews’. He’s the local laughing stock.


42 posted on 02/06/2014 11:18:30 AM PST by pluvmantelo (The thing of it is, we must live with the living- Michel de Montaigne)
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To: PTBAA
I guess praying is out of the question in CA….

Just in some liberal areas. We've only had a few rainy days over the last few months in CA, and they were very light sprinkles. Then this week, boom, we've had several rainy days. Rained hard all last night, and is raining today. I guess the dancing and prayers worked after all, even in CA.

43 posted on 02/06/2014 2:51:35 PM PST by roadcat
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