Skip to comments.Officials: Dispute between CHP officer, firefighter an 'isolated incident'
Posted on 02/06/2014 12:06:29 PM PST by This Just In
Officials: Dispute between CHP officer, firefighter an 'isolated incident'
CHULA VISTA (CBS 8) Officials from both the California Highway Patrol and Chula Vista Fire Department Wednesday responded to an incident that left a firefighter in handcuffs at an accident site in the South Bay.
CBS News 8 cameras were rolling around 9:00 p.m. Tuesday when the two got into a dispute over where the fire engine should park while firefighters were responding to the crash that happened north on I-805 between Telegraph Canyon Road and East Orange Avenue.
According to officials, the officer told firefighters to move three fire engines from the fast lane, and two complied, but one firefighter refused that request and continued giving aid to the crash victims.
Exclusive video from CBS News 8 shows the CHP officer cuffing the firefighter, identified as Jacob Gregoire, 36, at the scene of the accident. In the background, other fire crews and officers can be seen tending to the victims of the rollover accident.
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I should have typed, “Firefighter”.
You should also have typed site.
No, you shouldn’t have changed the title.
Crazy what these guys in blue or tan do, just because they can.
Highway patrolman probably thought that a big firetruck in the center lane against the guard rail was a traffic hazard that could cause an accident. That is probably why he asked the firetruck to move.
I have a feeling that the firemen had the right idea based on what I have seen at construction projects, although I do admit that at construction projects there is flagging put out to identify lane/shoulder closures ahead. Still it was an emergency and those responding to the emergency should be in charge of their own safety.
My vote goes to the firefighters. If the highway patrol wins this argument, they will have to explain it pretty well and provide safety at future fire department aid calls.
Ego trumps saving lives.
Yeah, was about to say the same thing.
Editors? Weeee donnn neeed nooo stinkinn’ editors!!
In most states, the ranking fireman has authority at a fire. I don’t know about traffic accidents.
Sight is no longer at the site, even if the firefighter was cited.
“You should also have typed site.”
CHP didn’t have sight of the accident? How’d he know it was an accident?
Oh, I must have red it wrong.
In most cases, the flashing emergency-vehicle lights would provide enough warning. Adding a few flares, a couple hundred feet back, should be enough to warn everyone, who isn’t drunk or asleep at the wheel. The drunk driver that misses all the warnings will slam into the back of the firetruck, rather than into victims or emergency workers, near the accident or ambulance. I’m totally with the FD on this.
I’ve had two incidents, not quite accidents, but yes, the fire department blocks the road with the pumper. It’s a huge piece of machinery providing some protection from sleepy, drunk or inattentive drivers.
I think it’s a good practice and they have the right to do so.
Using the big red truck to create a “safety zone” is a recommended safety procedure in the federal Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD).
The fact that the CA FDs do this indicates that this is exactly what they were trained to do.
I suspect the “joint training” will mostly be about CHP troopers (one in particular) getting retrained on safety zone structure.
It is good practice and good physics.
A speeding car weighing 4000 lbs hits a police cruiser that weighs 4000 lbs. What happens?
A speeding car weighing 4000 lbs hits a 40,000 lb fire truck, what happens?
It aint rocket science.
Personally, if I was the Chula Vista Fire Department, I would no longer respond to any calls where the CHP was on scene unless there was a Chula Vista Police Department officer present, one who out ranked the CHP officer on scene, to provide protection for the firefighters.
Of course, we know the CHP is always right and always takes the high road, never lets a substandard officer stay on the force, always roots out the bad apples. Is that why there is a Cara Knott overpass?
As a 33 year volunteer, and now days mostly traffic duty, our District SOPS, like most in NY, requires us to use a pumper as a barrier to oncoming traffic on a highway. Believe me, its allot safer than just the road flares, cones and my body!
Site is provided.
Their title failed to highlight the problem.
Sounds logical to me. I’ll have to ask my brother. He’s a paramedic as well as my other brother. He’s a law enforcement officer.
Fire the arresting officer and retrain the CHP on proper procedure at an accident scene.
“It aint rocket science.”
Tell that to the brain surgeon CHP officer.
Depends if extrication is required or there is a chance of fire.
They do this in NY all the time. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if the fire trucks some times come JUST to block the lane. It is infuriating but understandable: NY drivers are stupid selfish homicidal pricks.
Beat me to it.....................all I saw was ego’s at a place on this earth where they should have been trained well enough to put the injured party(s) they were suppose to be helping FIRST and hold their EGO’s for a conference room much later! Close to the stupidest thing I ever saw. It was first grade play ground stuff.