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Obama Considering Three Year Extension To Obamacare
Zerohedge ^ | 02/06/2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/06/2014 1:09:31 PM PST by Rusty0604

While Washington debates over what is the proper explanation of the CBO's report which explicitly states that millions of workers will drop out of the labor force over the next decade thanks to Obamacare, Obama himself may have finally thrown in the towel, realizing that the longer the full implementation of Obamacare is delayed, the longer the myth that it is a viable Ponzi scheme - as opposed to non-viable - can persist. Perhaps this explains why AP reports that the White House is now considering an extension of the president's decision to let people keep their individual insurance policies even if they are not compliant with the health care overhaul, according to two top industry officials.

From AP:

Avalere Health CEO Dan Mendelson said Thursday that the administration may let policyholders keep that coverage for an additional three years, stressing that no decision has been made. Policymakers are waiting to see what rate hikes health insurers plan for the insurance exchanges that are key to the overhaul's coverage expansions.

"The administration is entertaining a range of options to ensure that this individual market has stability to it and that would be one thing that they could do," he said.

Avalere Health is a market analysis firm, but Mendelson said his company was not advising the administration on exchange policy. He said he has had informal discussions with administration officials about the extension, but he didn't identify them.

A spokeswoman for the Department of Health and Human Services, Joanne Peters, said "We are continuing to examine all sorts of ways to provide consumers with more choices and to smooth the transition as we implement the law."

Earlier, Mark Bertolini, Chairman and CEO of Aetna and the nation's third largest insurer, told analysts during his earnings call that he had heard the plans may be extended. Perhaps a more important thing Bertolini said is that his company may pull out of markets if the Medicare cuts are too high, adding that 2015 may be challenging due to medicare cuts. This may have been the final straw that pushed the administration into action.

However, even a longer extension than was rumored previously will hardly help reinstate the policies of all those millions who lost coverage in the lead up to the Obamacare enactment as insurance companies know that terms will once again change eventually, so why go through the headache of temporary reinstatement just to cut all those "non-compliant" individuals once again?

Individual policyholders were hit with a wave of cancellation notices last year because their coverage was less robust than what is required under the law, and many states allowed insurance companies to simply cancel them.

The wave of cancellation notices — at least 4.7 million of them — hit just when the new HealthCare.gov website was experiencing some of its worst technical problems, and it undercut the president's well-publicized promise that if you liked your plan you could keep it.

You couldn't.

At first the White House went into damage-control mode, arguing that many of the cancelled plans were "junk" insurance and consumers would be better off with the broader coverage available through the health care law's new insurance markets.

But soon Obama was forced to reverse course, urging insurers and state regulators to allow policyholders to keep their existing plans for an additional year. Most states complied with the request.

Now the administration is considering adding more years to this extension to avoid another wave of problems if rates on the exchange climb too high and people are left without an affordable coverage option. Health insurers are supposed to submit by May the rates they want to charge on the exchanges next year.

Actually, the only reason why Obama is suddenly willing to compromise over every aspect of his "crowning achievement" is that finally its tactical, and strategic failure has become clear for all to see. So it would be best to enact it piecemeal, and claim success for whatever legacy aspects of the system are working, while blasting everything that his unprecedentedly complicated, centrally-planned contraption has unleashed.

Finally, why three years? Because by then Obama will be gone (absent some very radical changes to presidential term rules), and Obamacare will be someone else's problem.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: employermandate; obama; obamacare; obamacaredelay; obamacareextention; obamalies
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1 posted on 02/06/2014 1:09:31 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

Ponzi schemes are non-viable by definition. That sure is a highly-deluded myth to maintain.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 1:13:03 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Rusty0604

um, how is it Obama has the power to change this law all the time for political advantage? I guess cankles Clinton knows that Odumbo care is going to hurt her.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 1:13:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: Rusty0604

Basically, zero is just hanging on by a thread, and will do anything not to see his Obama Care baby not go plop and be repealed! I guess zero thinks Hillary will rescue it down the road if she is elected in 2016, let’s hope not.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 1:13:51 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Rusty0604

How can the President decree that people can keep their individual plans, when so many of those plans are already lost—GONE—no longer in the insurance companies’ data bases?

This is being done purely to create chaos.


5 posted on 02/06/2014 1:14:19 PM PST by MNGal
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To: Rusty0604

A three year delay?

Three years. Something ELSE is going to happen in three years...

Wait! I’ve got it. I just remembered... Obama will be leaving office in three years.

...

...

Oh well, it’s probably just a coincidence...


6 posted on 02/06/2014 1:16:14 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: MNGal

What about all the people that have employer sponsored plans that may or may not meet the Obamacare requirements? Will they be extended also to avoid a really massive revolt? Doesn’t this leave the insurance companies with just the people who had pre-existing conditions and couldn’t get insurance?
This should strengthen the arguments for repeal, but reduce the complaints prior to the election.


7 posted on 02/06/2014 1:19:38 PM PST by Oldexpat
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To: WayneS
A three year delay? Three years. Something ELSE is going to happen in three years...Wait! I’ve got it. I just remembered...Obama will be leaving office in three years.

Unless a national crisis arises that requires presidential elections to be suspended, until such a time as the crisis has abated.

8 posted on 02/06/2014 1:20:29 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: MNGal

Hoping he can cram that genie back into the bottle. That damage is done and more damage is coming.

It’s all positioning trying to make the insurers the bad guys in all of this....”I told them they could keep your policy, but, they won’t do it because they’re greedy blah, blah, blah...”


9 posted on 02/06/2014 1:22:00 PM PST by FAA
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To: Kackikat

By then people’s insurance premiums will be so high because of the demographics of those that did enroll in the new policies that Hillery can sweep in and save the day with single payer.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 1:23:31 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604

He can extend all he wants but come January 2017 it disappears!!! Unless the democrats throw his sorry ass under the bus to save their own sorry asses!!!


11 posted on 02/06/2014 1:25:29 PM PST by ontap
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To: Rusty0604

Obama Considering Thiry-Three Year Extension To His Presidency- He`ll ignore the Constitution again.

Watch for it!


12 posted on 02/06/2014 1:25:54 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Oldexpat

Insurance companies can cancel those policies the same as others. Probably won’t have too when the rates skyrocket next year.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 1:28:53 PM PST by ontap
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To: FAA

I think he’s hoping he can kick the can down the road and make it someone else’s problem.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 1:30:55 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Alex Murphy

“Unless a national crisis arises that requires presidential elections to be suspended, until such a time as the crisis has abated. “

well, i think they would need confiscate 200 million guns first.


15 posted on 02/06/2014 1:31:44 PM PST by willywill
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To: Rusty0604

That is a definite possibility.

This may be just another small play in their long game.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 1:32:02 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Rusty0604

Ever watch Maury Povitch? Occasionally, he has show with “out-of-control” teenage girls.

After the opening spot with the crying, sobbing mother recounting all the crap she has to put up with, the little hoor comes out on stage, “You don’t know me (flashing the bird) - I DO WHAT I WANT!”

THAT is Obama.


17 posted on 02/06/2014 1:32:15 PM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Kackikat

Hillary wanted to foist single payer on us in 93.
That will be her fix.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 1:32:46 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WayneS

Actually, 0bama will be leaving office in 35 and half months. I am counting every one of them. Woo hoo! Less than three more years of 0bama.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 1:33:13 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Rusty0604

It sounds more like a postponement than an extension.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 1:33:50 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Rusty0604

Obozo the Clown president is proposing chaos. He in his idiocy may feel perfectly fine making up law to suit his whim but insurance co’s CANNOT nor can the American people.


21 posted on 02/06/2014 1:35:37 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: WayneS

What? Are you some right wing nut? Of course it’s just a coincidence. Just a mere coincidence. Obama would never do anything political. After all he’s fighting hard against the corrupt Washington system. Er... wait.


22 posted on 02/06/2014 1:36:50 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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And they mocked Cruz for suggesting the delay.


23 posted on 02/06/2014 1:37:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gaffer

I happened to (unintentionally) see a short interview with Povich on a local news broadcast hyping some show he’s doing.
Dude is 75 with an 18 yr old kid...


24 posted on 02/06/2014 1:37:48 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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The Marxists are trying to preserve the 2014 and 2016 elections. That’s all.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 1:38:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kackikat

If he ever leaves office he will disappear into history. Nobody will want to be near him. If Hillary gets in she’ll go away with obamacare and his name won’t be mentioned. Like I said, IF he ever leaves office.


26 posted on 02/06/2014 1:38:29 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Kackikat

If he delays it three more years, does he expect a Republican in office to take the blame for his namesake law?


27 posted on 02/06/2014 1:40:56 PM PST by tbw2
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To: dforest

Yes, can’t the house petition the supreme court to block his lawless actions, later it will be a dem majority. He is acting, is all we have is impeachment...drag his butt to jail..subpoena him for obstructing justice..he is not obeying the law.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 1:42:03 PM PST by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: Rusty0604

You could be exactly right, for Harry Reid said ‘the Affordable Care Act was the first step to the Single Payer System’....so if it fails, do they care? No. And they may have this in mind for 2016. Do you think it was intended to fail? I am beginning to think it was.


29 posted on 02/06/2014 1:42:18 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Rusty0604
This would be a complete admission that Obamacare is an abject failure.

Therefore, doing ANYTHING short of repealing Obamacare is reckless and keeping this country and individual Americans needlessly on a path of known destruction. There is therefore no excuse not to admit failure and save America from this unnecessary plague.

30 posted on 02/06/2014 1:42:40 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Rusty0604

He has no such authority.

Of course Congress will do nothing.

“We’re ready to be led” - John Boehner


31 posted on 02/06/2014 1:43:41 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: nascarnation

I could be wrong, but isn’t the child from another marriage? IIRC, he is married to Connie Chung and I seem to recall that she couldn’t naturally have a child or something like that.


32 posted on 02/06/2014 1:44:07 PM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

Could be, he’s a creepy lookin old dude to my eye.
I’m sure he and Connie are hard at work raising future Democrat one percenters.


33 posted on 02/06/2014 1:45:44 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

His main purpose in life now is to 1) make money, and 2) to provide a DNA testing service for lowlifes.


34 posted on 02/06/2014 1:46:57 PM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Rusty0604

So all policies go broke except obammascare, no matter what, so if I owneda company and saw Iit going broke, I would close Iig. So if all the insurance companies closed, and reopened not as insurance but a collective help program, could that bypass the law no longer described as insurance.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 1:47:49 PM PST by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: Gaffer

Wiki says he makes $7m per year for that travesty.
I was shocked he makes almost 2x Jerry Springer.

There’s some justice though..Judge Judy is making $31m.


36 posted on 02/06/2014 1:49:54 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Rusty0604

I cannot even imagine the monumental IT costs to insurers of all of this churn. But it’s ok, they’ll pass it on to consumers through higher premiums, deductibles, co-pays, and get a bailout, also from consumers (or should I say producers?).


37 posted on 02/06/2014 1:54:58 PM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: Rusty0604

They put things off as they gain more power and control. Once they’ve acquired full control, it doesn’t matter anymore.


38 posted on 02/06/2014 1:56:16 PM PST by albie
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To: Rusty0604

39 posted on 02/06/2014 1:57:26 PM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Rusty0604

So this IS NOT a joke? Obama is singlehandedly destroying the finely tuned instrument that WAS the insurance industry. His la-di-da policy changes are pulling the piano wiring all out and dumping the mess on the floor, unattended.


40 posted on 02/06/2014 1:59:01 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Rusty0604

The response from the Republicans needs to be that this ties the hands of Congress to implement real, positive healthcare reforms, and that Obamacare needs to be repealed and a new approach found.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 1:59:04 PM PST by Laserman
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To: tbw2

Narcissists never think they will fail, or their party. I guess he may have thought of your question, if he entertained any idea that Hillary might not be President.


42 posted on 02/06/2014 2:10:13 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: VerySadAmerican

There is a lot of concern about that, I too pray ‘they go, the sooner the better’...


43 posted on 02/06/2014 2:11:07 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No doubt she is already drooling over the thought, and may be working on the fix.


44 posted on 02/06/2014 2:12:50 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Rusty0604

Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool.
+++++++++
Who needs Congress anyway?


45 posted on 02/06/2014 2:15:03 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: Libloather; Olog-hai; Rusty0604
Delaying the inevitable, since Socialism is unsustainable & unworkable....
46 posted on 02/06/2014 2:18:18 PM PST by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: Rusty0604
You gotta hand it to 0bammy. He sure knows how to get inside the Washington GOP's OODA Loop (not that doing that is hard, of course).

Their "leadership" is still contemplating "immigration reform" and how to extend the national debt without being "unfair", all while being "bipartisan".

47 posted on 02/06/2014 2:19:15 PM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: dforest

-— how is it Obama has the power to change this law all the time for political advantage? -—

it’s in the law. The secretary can deem whatever she feels like deeming. And Obama tells her what to deem. It’s a no-law, law.


48 posted on 02/06/2014 2:21:36 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Rusty0604

Can you imagine how His Royal Narcissistic Highness feels when he’s constantly told that his baby is ugly, stupid and evil??? LOL!


49 posted on 02/06/2014 2:25:50 PM PST by afsnco
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To: Rusty0604

Bump


50 posted on 02/06/2014 2:26:27 PM PST by lowbridge
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